The Outsider Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 OP makes good point He is ranked in the top 10 of ICC rankings, you Bhajji hater. :mad:
asterix Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 He is ranked in the top 10 of ICC rankings' date=' you Bhajji hater. :mad:[/quote'] Yeah! Just above dangerous spinner from Bangladesh, Abdur Razzak..
Pagalpanti Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 Harbhajan can't afford to rest because he is not in great form. Last thing he would want is someone replacing him and doing extremely well, he will get back though. He hasn't been consistent but has shown that he still has it in him in some tests.
YingYangTwins Posted July 6, 2011 Posted July 6, 2011 kabira - I totally agree with you. I feel he decided against a break to make sure Mishra or Ojha don't end up giving Dhoni ideas of having a spinner who can take wickets consistently and threaten his spot in the playing XI.
King Tendulkar Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 He is ranked in the top 10 of ICC rankings' date=' you Bhajji hater. :mad:[/quote'] Only agreed with OP that he has played a lot of cricket and that may make him tired!:regular_smile:
Chandan Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 Amol Rahan in The Independent has made a good point too: An extraordinary decline .....Eleven days ago Sarwan turned 31. Harbhajan turned 31 yesterday. His figures were 14-3-31-1 and 19-2-42-1: ineffective. In March 2001, he took 32 wickets in three Tests against Australia – including the first Test hat-trick by an Indian – while none of his team-mates managed more than three. He was then a bowler whose stock ball turned sharply and drifted away from the right-hander, and whose whirligig, open action, which sometimes meant he bowled from beyond the vertical – ie 11 o'clock – induced terror in batsmen. Now, 95 Tests into his career, he has lost his off-break, the inevitable consequence of his flirtation with the doosra, which led to his action being questioned. He may have 398 Test wickets at 31.9, but he plays so much limited-overs cricket that his strategic nous for the five-day game is gone. He should be sacrificed for the much craftier left-arm of Pragyan Ojha, or any one of three leg-spinners, Piyush Chawla, Rahul Sharma, and Amit Mishra. Harbhajan is too proud to retire from Tests, though by saving his body he might increase his longevity in other forms of the game. Yet he will never again be the bowler who got Ricky Ponting out five times for under 12 in one series. Where is that sharp sharp turn? Drift? It seems as if I'm reading about some other bowler!
BERGKAMP Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 He is finished, Dhoni and the selectors need to man up and find the balls to drop him once and for all. Maybe keep him for ODIs, as he seems to be an economy rate specialist these days.
Fontaine Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 I would be for dropping him as long as it's with the clear indication that he needs to get better and be given a chance to get back into the team ONLY if he's improved his game. There's no point dropping a senior, only to turn around and complain about the new guy (Ojha/Mishra etc) not doing a brilliant job and wanting the old senior back by dropping the promising younger player. That's a quick way to destroy the confidence of a team.
deepak_sach Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 I would be for dropping him as long as it's with the clear indication that he needs to get better and be given a chance to get back into the team ONLY if he's improved his game. There's no point dropping a senior, only to turn around and complain about the new guy (Ojha/Mishra etc) not doing a brilliant job and wanting the old senior back by dropping the promising younger player. That's a quick way to destroy the confidence of a team. You can improve your game only in your early career. He has been there for 13 years...... I dont know how we won the world cup with him in the team.
Trichromatic Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 He doesn't look dangerous now. For last couple of months, batsman seem to be playing him easily. He was never a big turner of the ball like other off-spinners. He relies more on bounce from the pitch and top spin. In earlier days when he used to get little bit of bounce, then he used to a lethal bowler. Another important factor is that his performance was dependent on his confidence. Earlier whenever his confidence was high, he used to bowl in rythm. Just one break-through and he was best for India. Champions trophy in SL - against SA in Semi-final he bowled so beautifully. Those who watched his game know that he was a strike bowler for India. Taking more than 1 wicket during short interval was feature of his bowling. We have seen him many times in earlier days that after dismissing a batsman he always looked dangerous for the new batsman and many times he took 1-2 wickets more in same spell. Those are main features of his bowling. But now he not the strike bowler of India. He hardly seems to a bowler who can get wickets for his captain when needed. Away matches were not so good for him earlier and now even at Indian grounds, batsman play him easily. Main reasons are that he has changed his thinking. He doesn't seem to have much confidence of his bowling and he is more into limited over cricket mindset. It seems as if he is trying to restrict runs even in test matches. Stats will show that he has been one of the leading wicket-taking spinner in last 3 years. Yet high averages and strike rate show that he has lost his game. For now India is continuing with him and other spinners rarely get chance in test matches. I think dropping him for few matches and making the slot of spinner more competitive and open to all, will make him work more on bowling.
DomainK Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 Harbhajan credits Tendulkar with the 'slider' Roseau (Dominica): Indian off-spinner Harbhajan Singh, who has become the 11th bowler to pick up 400 wickets in Tests, says it was batting legend Sachin Tendulkar who helped him to add variation to his deliveries. Harbahajan said it was Tendulkar who taught him how to bowl the slider, a different type of outswinger. "Whenever I bowl to Sachin in the nets, I ask him what I should be doing. When I tour Australia or New Zealand, I take his advice. He showed me how to bowl a slider, a kind of outswinger, which I have used in ODIs and even taken wickets in Tests. But a slider can only be bowled with a new ball," said Harbhajan. Harbhajan also thanked his former captains and the close-in fielders, who always supported him. "My first captain was (Mohammed) Azharuddin. Then I played a couple of games under Sachin. When Sourav (Ganguly) became captain, he gave me a lot of confidence. I took a lot of wickets under him. He supported me all the way. (Mahendra Singh) Dhoni has been great with Team India. I just hope he continues doing what he is doing. Under each captain, I know I have given my 100 per cent. "During my time, Shiv Sunder Das was very good in close-in cordon. Sadagopan Ramesh normally sleeps a lot but that day he was awake to take a blinder offered by Warne. It gave me a hat-trick. Aakash Chopra was outstanding. Cheteshwar Pujara was very good in South Africa. Then, Rahul Dravid is very special. He has taken 50 catches off me. I hope another 50 will come very soon." Recalling some of his great deliveries against some of the great batsmen, Harbhajan said: "I remember my first wicket -- Greg Blewitt. Then the doosra which got Michael Hussey in Bangalore. He left it outside his off-stump and it came a long way to hit the off-stump. I thought only Murali bowled those kind of balls!" "Ricky Ponting, I got him many times, but he is a great batsman. Matthew Hayden, Brian Lara, Steve Waugh were all special." "I have seen all the greats -- Warne, Murali, Anil bhai and McGrath -- become a different bowler when they take a wicket in their first spell. You feel more confident, you feel you can plan differently now that you have a wicket behind you." Harbhajan said losing his father at an young age was the worst period of his life. "When I lost my dad, it was the worst period of my life. I didn't want to play cricket thereafter. He dreamt of me playing for the country. I am sure, wherever he is sitting today, he is happy his son has achieved something special," he said. "I am aggressive in my cricket. I am not there to make friends. Aggression is part of my success and I would try to have it as long as I can." http://tendulkaropus.com/news/sachin-tendulkar/harbhajan-credits-tendulkar-slider
cricketman Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 Well... hes been sliding ever since :winky: :haha:
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