deepak_sach Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 Bowlers usually bowl at their fastest best in the ODI's ,and slower in the test matches. But Munaf barely touched 82 mph in the ODI's but in the test matches he is bowling at 87-88 mph.Is he affected from andy roberts statement? How is he bowling fast in tests and slow in ODIs?
deepak_sach Posted July 8, 2011 Author Posted July 8, 2011 OOPS SORRY IT MUST BE CURIOUS CASE OF MUNAF PATEL. mods is there a way to change the title?
Sachinism Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 He see's a pitch with something in it, he will bend his back a bit to get the most out of the wicket. Nothing in the wicket, cut down pace and concentrate on bowling good lines and lengths
rkt.india Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 He see's a pitch with something in it, he will bend his back a bit to get the most out of the wicket. Nothing in the wicket, cut down pace and concentrate on bowling good lines and lengths No..This is not the case. There was nothing in this pitch too. It is a fact with Munaf. Other bowlers bowl their fastest in ODIs, while Munaf is opposite. He puts more efforts in tests and varies his bowling. Even in NZ he bowled up to 140s and against Pakistan in 2007 in Delhi test he bowled up to 142Ks in a spell. In ODIs, he bowls a predictable line and length to be more economical and does not do different experiments like Sreeshanth. In tests, he bowls more aggressively and tries to get wicket.
deepak_sach Posted July 8, 2011 Author Posted July 8, 2011 Welcome to Munaf 2.0 -- Sir Munaf Marshall are you talking about Hamish Marshall,the newzealand batsman. so Munaf knows to bat well these days too./:giggle::giggle:
Crookbond Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 I had a chance to speak up with 'Munna' bhai a couple of years back. I asked him about his speed and he told me a few things. Munaf Patel modelled is action on Glenn McGrath. While running up to the crease, he has a cross jump(to make the out swinger) effective. However, McGrath is strong in hips while Munaf is not. He did some work with TA Sekhar at the MRF Pace academy. Unfortunately, he has had to cut down his pace to keep him fitter.
achilles Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 He has it in him to be the next Anil Kumble with 'em phaast yorkers and slow bouncers :D
express bowling Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 He has it in him to be the next Anil Kumble with 'em phaast yorkers and slow bouncers :D :--D
phaedrus Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 are you talking about Hamish Marshall,the newzealand batsman. so Munaf knows to bat well these days too./:giggle::giggle: cricket history fail
Trichromatic Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 ODIs Test His natural speed is 80-82 mph. He varies speed a lot in ODIs especially in his 2nd and 3rd spells. In tests he doesn't vary much while bowling around 80mph and occasionally few balls are 86-87mph.
saneindian Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Due to his changed action, Munaf's ability to get reverse swing seems to be limited now. That may have an impact on his test career going forward. But was good to see him put in the extra effort and extract good bounce even out of a slow paced track. Not sure if its just me, but every time he clocked 85+, his action seemed to go back to his older days when he was new to international cricket.
rkt.india Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Due to his changed action, Munaf's ability to get reverse swing seems to be limited now. That may have an impact on his test career going forward. But was good to see him put in the extra effort and extract good bounce even out of a slow paced track. Not sure if its just me, but every time he clocked 85+, his action seemed to go back to his older days when he was new to international cricket. agree
Cricket Tragic Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Everyone is talking about how phhaassst Munaf has bowled but have forgotten to check the wickets column. Am I in the wrong forum again?
The Realist Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Patel is never going to take enough wickets - has no variety nor the intelligence for a test level bowler. For a third seamer his lack of attacking ability is embarassing.
DeepFineLeg Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Munaf is a line and length bowler and amongst the most accurate in the game. He succeeds in ODIs because players take risks against him and play lofted/cross batted shots and he either keeps economy rate low or picks wickets. This just doesn't cut it in the Tests. He doesn't have the bounce or pace of IS or the swing of PK or the overall skill of our spearhead Zak. But Munaf is a good T20 and ODI cricketer.
Karan114 Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Everyone is talking about how phhaassst Munaf has bowled but have forgotten to check the wickets column. Am I in the wrong forum again? Yeah, even accepting the pitch slowed down, 1/119 is a really poor return, especially with PK and Sharma sharing ten wickets between them. He showed some good signs by increasing his pace but ultimately wickets are what count. 35 wickets at 38.5 is a mediocre record. Hopefully he can improve that in the coming year.
Trichromatic Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 this is embarrassing even dernbach clocked 90mph vs srl and he is not even regarded that quick by england and here we have munaf dadaji at 86.97766657mph . ishant clocked 91mph on last day of this test match and along with that 1 other ball he had bowled in Adelaide test which was also around 91mph , i cant recall any indian bowler clocking 90mph in a test match , so basically 2 balls at 90mph+ in over 10yrs of test cricket since speedometer has been used Don't feel embarrassed. Check this :winky:
Sid Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 What happened to Munaf's reverse swing,if doesnt have that now,he will not be a good test match bowler.He needs to have that reverse swing back.
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