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Praveen Kumar fined for arguing with umpire


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He shouldn't get banned but should definitely get a sizeable fine. It was very disappointing to see such a reaction. I loved the fact that it was Harbhajan who pushed him away.

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What's silly? Praveen wouldn't have gone out of control if HE was there. Thought that's pretty obvious.
Well yes obviously. But that's quite a different point. You seemed to say Praveen should control his emotions because the BCCI are against Hawk-Eye. It has nothing to do with him. He should control his emotions because dissent is against the rules.
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That was quite uncalled for and he deserves a big fine' date='blame bcci for this.[/quote'] Why BCCI? No matter what happens, players' job is to play according to the spirit of the game.
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Well yes obviously. But that's quite a different point. You seemed to say Praveen should control his emotions because the BCCI are against Hawk-Eye. It has nothing to do with him. He should control his emotions because dissent is against the rules.
Yeah kind of, because team India has agreed to play without Hawk-Eye which means team India trusts umpires' decisions. More than BCCI I think it's Sachin who is against Hawk-Eye :--D
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Ok. Don't know enough about Tendulkar's sway here. But I think my point goes back to a topic that Outsider (I think) created about how the wrong people are made to feel culpable when there is controversy over decisions and the lack of technology - in that case the fans, and here Kumar. If Tendulkar or whoever of the BCCI's top brass are against it, there isn't much a rookie trundler can do about it...so no need to bring it up in every situation.

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Ok. Don't know enough about Tendulkar's sway here. But I think my point goes back to a topic that Outsider (I think) created about how the wrong people are made to feel culpable when there is controversy over decisions and the lack of technology - in that case the fans' date=' and here Kumar. If Tendulkar or whoever of the BCCI's top brass are against it, there isn't much a rookie trundler can do about it...[b']so no need to bring it up in every situation.
There is every need because this wouldn't have happened if HE was there. I think it's time to agree to use technology before another robbery like Sydney happens. If HE is so bad, at least let pitch mat & the replay assist umpires to get rid of howlers. Examples : 1.Ball pitched outside leg stump 2.Impact outside off
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We just sound like a silly lot. We oppose DRS with Hawkeye even if the human umpires keep giving howlers and then we sometimes get umpires replaced (WI 3rd test) and sometimes we intimidate/argue with umpires. Maybe we think we can get away with this or something. I hope BCCI/SRT/MSD have some rethink and agree to DRS with Hawkeye before the Aussie series later in the year

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It would be even more silly if BCCI suddenly changes it's decision about Hawk-eye. They have expressed their concern about hawk-eye and if they think it was valid back earlier then those should still be valid. I don't think BCCI should go for hawk-eye. So, just give clear instructions to players - shut your mouth and mind your own business. Don't cry for any decision which is not in your favor. If you can't do that then don't play.

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We just sound like a silly lot. We oppose DRS with Hawkeye even if the human umpires keep giving howlers and then we sometimes get umpires replaced (WI 3rd test) and sometimes we intimidate/argue with umpires. Maybe we think we can get away with this or something. I hope BCCI/SRT/MSD have some rethink and agree to DRS with Hawkeye before the Aussie series later in the year
Well said.
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We just sound like a silly lot. We oppose DRS with Hawkeye even if the human umpires keep giving howlers and then we sometimes get umpires replaced (WI 3rd test) and sometimes we intimidate/argue with umpires. Maybe we think we can get away with this or something. I hope BCCI/SRT/MSD have some rethink and agree to DRS with Hawkeye before the Aussie series later in the year
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broad didnt confront the umpire at all, he asked why it was not out and walked off in Raina's case before asking the balcony if it was out. Yet Praveen Kumar started shouting and pointing at the umpire. Funny if Kumar gets banned you will all say racist and how Broad got away with it when in reality what Praveen did was much worse.

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We just sound like a silly lot. We oppose DRS with Hawkeye even if the human umpires keep giving howlers and then we sometimes get umpires replaced (WI 3rd test) and sometimes we intimidate/argue with umpires. Maybe we think we can get away with this or something. I hope BCCI/SRT/MSD have some rethink and agree to DRS with Hawkeye before the Aussie series later in the year
You cant force them to agree to Hawk eye when they are not convinced with its accuracy.
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There is every need because this wouldn't have happened if HE was there. I think it's time to agree to use technology before another robbery like Sydney happens. If HE is so bad, at least let pitch mat & the replay assist umpires to get rid of howlers. Examples : 1.Ball pitched outside leg stump 2.Impact outside off
To be fair I do agree. I was mostly referring to the link between PK's outburst and Hawk-Eye. But yes, India embracing it is long overdue. O well nevermind PK gets one anyway :icflove:
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broad didnt confront the umpire at all, he asked why it was not out and walked off in Raina's case before asking the balcony if it was out. Yet Praveen Kumar started shouting and pointing at the umpire.
I'm not sure about the shouting, but he was surely pointing at the umpire. Broad's reaction didn't look bad, while Praveen's reaction was disappointing. That's why other players have come in his way.
Funny if Kumar gets banned you will all say racist and how Broad got away with it when in reality what Praveen did was much worse.
That's rubbish. If he gets banned then it will certainly be harsh punishment and he should be fined only. Check post # 15.
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Chris Broad charges Kumar with 'conduct unbecoming of even my own family' Following a sickening show of dissent at Trent Bridge this morning, Indian welterweight Praveen Kumar has been charged with "conduct unbecoming of even my own family," by ICC head of morality Chris Broad. The new law, which applies to all cricketers except those in the Sky commentary box, has been introduced to ensure a certain level of hypocrisy is maintained at all times throughout the current England India series. Upset at having an LBW appeal turned down by Marais Erasmus, the usually mild-mannered Kumar was then seen to tweek the South African umpire's nipples really hard, spray deep heat in his underpants and advise him where to stick his 'fat concrete finger'. An even uglier scene was only averted due to one of the world's leading dispute resolution specialists surprisingly being on the field of play at the same time. "I'm not a hero," said a Mr H Singh, as he played down the incident and winked at Sreesanth. Speaking from Dubai after consultation with leading disciplinarians David Gower and Ian Botham, Broad confirmed that Kumar would be charged and that the most likely punishment would be a course of blonde highlights and intensive pout rehabilitation treatment.

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