Steve Waugh is playing like Raina, jumping allover the place.

[Cricket Tragic]

DZ is back. :woot: :hello:

[Sid]

DZ is back. :woot: :hello:

:hello: Test series is over,I izz back :--D

[Trichromatic]

:hello: Test series is over,I izz back :--D

Back from Padosiland. :P

[Sidhoni]

:hello: Test series is over,I izz back :--D

And with a new avatar too :two_thumbs_up:

[Sid]

Back from Padosiland. :P

Thats not me :cantstop:

And with a new avatar too :two_thumbs_up:

:bow:

[Trichromatic]

Thats not me :cantstop:

Then who was the guy playing role of Mishraji - defending Sachin from attacks. :giggle:

[Crookbond]

I made this point in another thread too. Suresh Raina has to decide if he wants to go the Bevan way or the Waugh way. Steve Waugh wasn't comfortable with the short ball and mind you he was dropped for the same. I am not putting in any comparisons but Raina can look up to Waugh if he wants to improve his standard. It's not a comparison but easier said than done.

[Lord]

boy Waugh used to be my favorite Aussie players.mental toughness personified.I wish he was our coach than the buffoon we have

[Pagalpanti]

Actually Waugh nicely managed Donald there didn't just keep ducking. He stood up and tall and negotiated the short balls quite well, I doubt Raina would've survived even 3 balls of this over. Raina's flaw is big, he can't even avoid the short ball, 4-5 short balls and you're sure to get him out in tests. I have no doubt he will become a big player for India in future in test, but not until he resolves this problem.

[saneindian]

Steve Waugh after first 3 years of his test career 24 tests, 1024 runs@30, no 100s, 40 wickets@38 Raina right now 15 tests, 710 runs@30, 15 wickets@40. Can Raina comeback as a better test batsman and do even 70-75% of what Waugh did in the 90s for the Aussies?

[Square Drive]

But Swann is the best spinner in the world' date= so playing the other chumps is easy compared to Swann.

Meh.. we saw a glimpse of how he'll be treated in Sr Lanka in the last WC quarter final.. :giggle:

[rkt.india]

Steve Waugh after first 3 years of his test career 24 tests, 1024 runs@30, no 100s, 40 wickets@38 Raina right now 15 tests, 710 runs@30, 15 wickets@40. Can Raina comeback as a better test batsman and do even 70-75% of what Waugh did in the 90s for the Aussies?

Hope so. he has temperament and is hard working. I will be disappointing if he does not come back well and prove his critics wrong.

[achilles]

I am sorry but this is a poor analogy to suggest Raina might someday turn into Steve Waugh. If Raina somehow manages to ever learn the nuances of the word "technique", I think he would have achieved everything in his cricketing career.

[Trichromatic]

Meh.. we saw a glimpse of how he'll be treated in Sr Lanka in the last WC quarter final.. :giggle:

If he's not, then who is best spinner?

[Karan114]

Steve Waugh after first 3 years of his test career 24 tests, 1024 runs@30, no 100s, 40 wickets@38 Raina right now 15 tests, 710 runs@30, 15 wickets@40. Can Raina comeback as a better test batsman and do even 70-75% of what Waugh did in the 90s for the Aussies?

Difference is, Raina has been around the international scene, on and off, for six years now. He has played international cricket in all the major nations except Australia. When he first began his career back in 2005-06, it was apparent there was a problem against the short ball. Six years on, there has been zero improvement against the short ball, and only rarely (WI series) has he shown the willingness and fight to at least see off that kind of bowling. From the coaches, we keep hearing that Raina is a hard worker, and I have no reason to doubt that. But if he is a hard worker and still isn't improving against short pitched bowling then it means he is simply incapable of developing a technique to counter it. No one can doubt his mental strength after those two vital innings in the World Cup knockout games. But that isn't enough at Test level.

[achilles]

"Hard work" is not what Suresh Raina did for 6yrs. Hard work is what Ganguly did for 1yr after being humiliated publicly and dropped. Hard work is what Rahul Dravid has done all his career. Hard work is bowling with a broken jaw like Kumble did. Hard work is taking blows and still carrying on, like Zaheer Khan does while batting. I'm sorry but Raina's hardwork can continue in T20s and ODIs, not in Tests. No sitting ducks in the team, please.

[gaurav92]

If he's not' date=' then who is best spinner?[/quote']

[ZodiaC]

The thing is, despite looking ugly, he managed to amass all those runs. That's what makes him great. Some players don't have such good reflexes and tend to struggle against short ball - which is understandable. But wtf's up with Raina? He can improve a LOT if he wanted to.

[Trichromatic]

Difference is' date=' Raina has been around the international scene, on and off, for six years now. [/quote'] Yeah, he has played over 100 ODIs. That's lot cricket. This is one reason I don't like the idea of trying the youngsters first in ODIs and then give the good performers chance in test cricket. ODIs are not testing batsman much these days. At most batsman face pressure situation, but rarely they come across situation when bowlers consistently get help from the pitch. This is one reason why they don't improve much and even after playing for so long when they enter test arena, they are brutally exposed. Indian selection policy for last few years have been like this only. Selectors don't give chance to new players especially bowlers directly in test cricket. They select players for ODIs and whoever does consistently well gets a chance in test cricket. At some point selectors will have to separate test players and ODI players.

[Square Drive]

If he's not' date=' then who is best spinner?[/quote'] Ether Nathan Lyon or Michael Beer.. whom we will be facing in the up coming test series.. :yay: