nospam Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 from URL "I will also be adding a 1.5tb hard drive that I currently own as well as a 27" apple cinema display " Apple cinema display = 999$ (27") His machine + cinema display + HDD = 1446+999+~100 = 2550 Imac 27" = 1699 that build also has 2 ssds+1tb hdd, remove those -$57.99 - $159.99 - $159.99 and add 1.5 TB (~65$), 1446-57.99-159.99-159.99+65 ~= 1150$ (as I said in my previous post "minus the screen") Also, from link "For the GPU's, I realize that OSX does not support crossfire or SLI, however when I do need to boot into the mac environment, I will rely on just one of the cards, as all my gaming will take place on my 7" So if he is using OS X as his primary machine, he is using only 1 graphics card. Apple iMac comes with "1" AMD Radeon HD 6770M graphics processor with 512MB of GDDR5 memory, the build I linked to has a better gfx processor - Gigabyte Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card. So even if you are using the mac with 1 graphics card it is still better than the iMac specs. Also, he will have issues with drivers and all that jazz. I am going to agree with this but now there is much more support for hackintosh builds (tonymacx86, insanelymac, r/hackintosh).
Holysmoke Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 that build also has 3 ssds' date=' remove those 3 ssds $57.99 - $159.99 - $159.99 and add 1.5 TB (~65$), 1446-57.99-159.99+65 ~= 1300$ (as I said in my previous post "minus the screen") Apple iMac comes with "1" AMD Radeon HD 6770M graphics processor with 512MB of GDDR5 memory, the build I linked to has a better gfx processor - Gigabyte Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card. So even if you are using the mac with 1 graphics card it is still better than the iMac specs. I am going to agree with this but now there is much more support for hackintosh builds (tonymacx86, insanelymac, r/hackintosh). Oh, there is no doubt that you can build a better "CPU" using less money than an imac. That particular one is crap imho.
nospam Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 That particular one is crap imho. why do feel that build is crap?
Holysmoke Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 why do feel that build is crap? If you want to build a hackintosh, get parts with native drivers. What use is 2 graphics cards? "I chose to have 2x 120 gb SSD as well as a 1tb HDD. I plan to install one OS on each SSD, as well as any valued programs, and then install all the files and folders on the 1tb HD. ALL of this will be backed up to the 1.5TB drive at least once a day, all of it sitting inside the chassis." Thats a pain the the ass..
nospam Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 What use is 2 graphics cards? crossfire/sli - gaming
Holysmoke Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 crossfire/sli - gaming Rephrase - What use is 2 graphics cards in OS X? Looks like you have misunderstood me, or rather I have not made myself clear. This is a crap system from the point of view of building a hackintosh.
Rajiv Posted September 2, 2011 Author Posted September 2, 2011 I used hackintosh and its not the same, I admire Imacs compact build, finish and the screen res is abs breathtaking. As for pirated apps, I meant can u find them easily to download..but looks like we have mac section in iptorrents
The Outsider Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Okay, I am finally looking to upgrade from my 6 year old Macbook Pro and need some suggestions: 1. I have a work Linux/Windows laptop with a pretty good configuration like a 8GB RAM and an i7 processor which is adequate for my work purpose and laptop use. 2. My 6 year old Macbook Pro with 2GB RAM and 2GHz processor still works fine, but I mainly use it at home. 3. Was planning to get a Mac and the options I was considering were: a. The 15 inch Macbook Pro. That's $1799. b. The 27 inch iMac. That's $1699. However, I already have a 27 inch display, so this option seems to be a bit of a waste for me. c. The Mac Pro Quad Core. That's $2499. The last option is stretching my budget beyond the limit, so wanted to get an idea from users and/or people more familiar with it about the advantages/disadvantages of it. I've never owned a Mac desktop, but given that I find myself hardly carrying my Macbook Pro outside the house would it be better to go for a desktop if I am getting more out of it. And since I already have a large enough display I don't need to spend on that. Thoughts? Suggestions?
Crookbond Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 3a looks best Shwetabh. Do not got for the retina display, non upgradeable ones. What applications do you use?
vvvslaxman Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 imac is pretty expensive isn't it :hmmm: I am a desktop fan so i thought about buying it too. But it was way too expensive.
The Outsider Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 3a looks best Shwetabh. Do not got for the retina display' date=' non upgradeable ones. What applications do you use?[/quote'] This is going to be a home computer since I can't do office work on any other machine besides the ones sanctioned. Main uses are going to be: 1. Streaming videos, music. Browsing, storing photographs etc. 2. My personal technical stuff which is mainly C++, Mathematica, R etc. I was toying with the idea of teaching myself some parallel programming. If the Quad Core is capable of parallel processing, that would be a big plus. Do you know if it's possible on it?
Crookbond Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 This is going to be a home computer since I can't do office work on any other machine besides the ones sanctioned. Main uses are going to be: 1. Streaming videos, music. Browsing, storing photographs etc. 2. My personal technical stuff which is mainly C++, Mathematica, R etc. I was toying with the idea of teaching myself some parallel programming. If the Quad Core is capable of parallel processing, that would be a big plus. Do you know if it's possible on it? In that case, I will suggest you use a Windows desktop and buy a large screen. Let me know if you are ok with this I can suggest a model. However, if you are still fixated on the iMac it is a very straightforward choice - [1] Screen shootout - 21.5" versus 27" [2] Processor shootout I will suggest you go to take a look at the iMac review at The Verge [1]. [1] http://www.theverge.com/2011/10/23/2508758/apple-imac-review-mid-2011
Crookbond Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Missed out on the programming aspect. You mention parallel processing and programming in the same post. Most computers including laptops are capable of parallel processing (even your MBP should do it). However, if you are alluding to parallel programming based on Map Reduce principles I am afraid one single machine will not be able to take full advantage. You need to have many (may not be powerful in processing individually) machines to truly perform Map-Reduce.
The Outsider Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 In that case, I will suggest you use a Windows desktop and buy a large screen. Let me know if you are ok with this I can suggest a model. However, if you are still fixated on the iMac it is a very straightforward choice - [1] Screen shootout - 21.5" versus 27" [2] Processor shootout I will suggest you go to take a look at the iMac review at The Verge [1]. [1] http://www.theverge.com/2011/10/23/2508758/apple-imac-review-mid-2011 It has to be a Mac. :hitler: Not fixated on the iMac, in fact it's my last choice in line because I already have a 27 inch display so I am just paying for it again. I can very well connect the new Macbook Pro to it like I am doing with my old one to get the iMac plus the mobility of a laptop. Regarding parallel processing, won't the Mac Pro be like a cluster? I am just getting started with parallel proramming so pardon my ignorance.
Crookbond Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 It has to be a Mac. :hitler: Not fixated on the iMac, in fact it's my last choice in line because I already have a 27 inch display so I am just paying for it again. I can very well connect the new Macbook Pro to it like I am doing with my old one to get the iMac plus the mobility of a laptop. Since you already have a display have you considered Mac Mini? To me it seems perfect with to your use case. Which display do you have? http://www.apple.com/macmini/ Do you want to look at Windows? Regarding parallel processing, won't the Mac Pro be like a cluster? I am just getting started with parallel proramming so pardon my ignorance. A cluster is a group of computers. Technically, MBP is a cluster of 1 which is effectively like 1 computer. So, that does not make much sense. Again, you can perform parallel processing tasks on your machine as well by creating threads or by use of multiprocessing.
The Outsider Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Since you already have a display have you considered Mac Mini? To me it seems perfect with to your use case. Which display do you have? http://www.apple.com/macmini/ Hadn't considered that! Mac Mini would be perfect for me since I already have a 27 inch display. It's something like this, though not sure if it's the same model: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC914LL/B/apple-thunderbolt-display-27-inch?fnode=53 Do you want to look at Windows? All my home stuff is so seamlessly accessible and configured into Mac, I really don't want to switch OS and go through the hassle of transferring everything. Besides things like Final Cut Pro and Aperture are just too good to let go easily. A cluster is a group of computers. Technically, MBP is a cluster of 1 which is effectively like 1 computer. So, that does not make much sense. Again, you can perform parallel processing tasks on your machine as well by creating threads or by use of multiprocessing. I thought a cluster was a group of processors, where in effect one could utilize a different processor for different actions on the same broader system.
Jersey #10 Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 85% of the market share is owned by Windows while mere 7% by Mac. Shows the power of windows. besides, you can get a super computer pc for the 1800 price tag of a 15" macbook pro.
Jersey #10 Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 With all the technology out there today, it's no secret that you can get extremely good hardware for a pc while windows 7 continues to be a very stable os. What's the addiction over mac? I don't get it. Windows is also more functional and userfriendly than any other OS to this date.
Crookbond Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Hadn't considered that! Mac Mini would be perfect for me since I already have a 27 inch display. It's something like this, though not sure if it's the same model: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC914LL/B/apple-thunderbolt-display-27-inch?fnode=53 All my home stuff is so seamlessly accessible and configured into Mac, I really don't want to switch OS and go through the hassle of transferring everything. Besides things like Final Cut Pro and Aperture are just too good to let go easily. I think you are set to go both in terms of money and features. At 799 USD, I think Mac Mini is the best bank for your buck since you already have the display. As per my understanding any display should work. Note - you will have to buy your own keyboard and mouse. If you have an iPad, you can choose a keyboard which will work for both. I thought a cluster was a group of processors, where in effect one could utilize a different processor for different actions on the same broader system. Technically as I said earlier you are correct, but the real power of clusters can only be harnessed when many processors come together. It is almost pointless to call a multiple-core single machine as a cluster.
maniac Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Not from a Technical but purely from a Consumer standpoint depending on what your need is... Easy to pack-For people whose jobs require a lot of moving around,Mac is just 1 monitor,A small wireless Keyboard and Mouse-I know HP and others have started to follow this same model lately.But if you are ready to shell out a similar amount of money for these products might as well get a Mac Video streaming-I used to think it kinda sucked bcoz it used to play videos automatically by default at high resolution and if your ISP sucks like mine....you would have to change the stream quality to play it faster....Have faced this issue on Macs only especially with youtube...Tried to see if I could get default settings on Youtube but not able to do it-But Netflix and Hulu work great though and the picture quality is great. Very Easy to setup....The easiest electronic equipment I have ever set up....Just plugged in my New Mac and it did every thing for me right from WIfi to everything else...Didn't have to go to Network settings and all that **** Battery backup for the wireless Keyboard and Mouse is pretty good compared to other Wireless products out there. Any system errors are pretty clear and let's you know whats going on...You want get a J000000222eeeee Types errors too often. For Music enthusiasts...Garage Band is a great feature... Longetivity factor Never crashed for me...Frequency is very less from what I heard Amazing Processor...I mean I have the most basic version and it amazes me how fasta simple activity like burning a disc happens at a break-neck speed. As I said this is purely from a basic Consumer standpoint...will not go into stuff like why web developers preffer Mac,etc Probably many more advantages...... but right now this is all I can think of as a common consumer...Will fill you up with more stuff later
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