Number Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 read my thread about fast bowling ingredients' date=' you will know better and the bowlers you are talking about walsh and mcgrath were not actually 130 k bowler. they only slowed down later in their career when had all the experience of international cricket and were good enough to survive even with less pace. and also dont forget i mentioned exceptions, the bowlers superior skills.[/quote'] :--D You should keep your signature as "McGrath was 90mph bowler for initial 3-4 years of his career." Coz ,Every time you argue with someone he comes up with the same "McGrath was 130kmph" example. :giggle: Link to comment
G_B_ Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I wonder why team management dont want Irfan. If this the new Duncan Fletcher fatwa of must be faster than 85mph? Link to comment
Old guy Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I wonder why team management dont want Irfan. If this the new Duncan Fletcher fatwa of must be faster than 85mph? i think in australia u cant survive with 128 km/h stock ball if htis was england series irfan would ve been selected Link to comment
G_B_ Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 i think in australia u cant survive with 128 km/h stock ball if htis was england series irfan would ve been selected true i guess does not have good stats in aus anyways Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 :--D You should keep your signature as "McGrath was 90mph bowler for initial 3-4 years of his career." Coz ,Every time you argue with someone he comes up with the same "McGrath was 130kmph" example. :giggle: people talk about mcgrath being 130, but dont understand he did not debut as 130k bowler he was fast medium and even then he was successful. he slowed down in 2000s, but by them time he already had played half of his career years and had become master of his skills to survive and dominate batsmen. when a bowler is inexperienced, he needs that extra pace to make an impact because he is not that regarding other aspects of fast bowling which comes with experience. there can be exceptions, but still those exceptions are rare. Link to comment
J P K Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 no shreesanth plz we cannot have three bowler going down zak - not 100 % fit ishant - he has skipped surgery what is the guarantee he will survive the tour shree - not fit imagine all three breaking on the very first match that they play :(( Link to comment
Dravid_TheWall Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Told you the Kerala Express would return :dance::dance::dance: Link to comment
Dravid_TheWall Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Sreesanth should play the Ranji match this week to prove his fitness before being selected.Otherwise someone like Mithun or Dinda or Nechin (unlikely) should be selected.Sreesanth is the best available choice but that doesnt we should compromise on fitness. Either way he is 5th choice only.Hopefully there is no need for him in the series apart from carrying drinks. There is no need for him to waste time in Ranji, man of his talent should be straight in. 1st test, ZK, Sree and Yadav B-> Link to comment
CG Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Utter rubbish' date=' he is averaging 46 in Tests since 2007. He had a brilliant debut year but has been pathetic since then with the odd decent performance here and there (like Kanpur '09).[/quote'] Bullshit he has won us test matches against top teams which not many indian fast bowlers have done.He has had a horrible last year but his performances till 2010 were good and only injuries kept him away from playing he averaged around 30 around that time- http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/34274.html?class=1;spanmax1=18+Aug+2010;spanval1=span;template=results;type=allround, He needs to work on his fitness but other than that if he plays consistently and is backed he will be a asset . Link to comment
CG Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 read my thread about fast bowling ingredients' date=' you will know better and the bowlers you are talking about walsh and mcgrath were not actually 130 k bowler. they only slowed down later in their career when had all the experience of international cricket and were good enough to survive even with less pace. and also dont forget i mentioned exceptions, the bowlers superior skills.[/quote'] You mentioned in particular conditions also,Mcgrath and walsh were never fast they were 130-140 and there are others too,Pace+Movement is what we should be looking for. Link to comment
Lord Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Utter rubbish' date=' he is averaging 46 in Tests since 2007. He had a brilliant debut year but has been pathetic since then with the odd decent performance here and there (like Kanpur '09).[/quote'] lol dont talk facts dude,all people care for is speed,speed.so what if hes been crap for last 4 year.hes phaashttt.if the same(or even less terrible)performances r shown by a slower bowler,he'll be out in 3-4 games the guy averages 37.5 in tests ffs,does he really deserve a place,fit or not? Link to comment
Magneto Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Sreesanth should definitely not play a Ranji match. Either he will get injured in that, or he'll be tonked all around the park prompting the selectors to drop him again, and we'll miss a dancing waterboy. No matter who the waterboy is, he needs to be a show pony. Link to comment
Karan114 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Bullshit he has won us test matches against top teams which not many indian fast bowlers have done.He has had a horrible last year but his performances till 2010 were good and only injuries kept him away from playing he averaged around 30 around that time- http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/34274.html?class=1;spanmax1=18+Aug+2010;spanval1=span;template=results;type=allround, He needs to work on his fitness but other than that if he plays consistently and is backed he will be a asset . No matter how much you spin it, the facts don't lie. The dancing donkey that you so adore has been utter filth at Test level for a period of nearly five years. As for his occasional good performance I have already acknowledged it. Link to comment
MCcricket Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Sreesanth is neither mentally or physically fit, it will be a waste of time, his average , performance and stamina is poor, I would have a good Domestic performer rather, Gony comes to mind, has pace, bounce, seems to have matured as a bowler , also has stamina and will be handy. Link to comment
Tendulkar_Bhai Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Am i missing something i thuought Mithun had already been selected as a replacement for Pk? Link to comment
CG Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 No matter how much you spin it' date=' the facts don't lie. The dancing donkey that you so adore has been utter filth at Test level for a period of nearly five years. As for his occasional good performance I have already acknowledged it.[/quote'] Spinning facts?You have been pawned ,We do not have likes of marshal,holding,garner in our attack ,He has won us matches qagainst top teams which not many indian fast bowler have done and what armchair critics like you right does not matter .He has done well in the past so he got oppurtunities and if he gets picked selectors still believe inn his talent. Link to comment
1983-2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Am i missing something i thuought Mithun had already been selected as a replacement for Pk? he replaced him for ODIs Link to comment
1983-2011 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 i got a feeling that ishant will break down instead of zaheer in aus while the inexperience of aaron and yadav will show up Link to comment
MCcricket Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Even Dinda if he is bowling in 140's is better then Sreesanth as he has pace and can move the ball is fit and aggressive , also Gony has been performing fantastically for last two years, both have experience. Link to comment
Karan114 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Spinning facts?You have been pawned ' date='We do not have likes of marshal,holding,garner in our attack ,He has won us matches qagainst top teams which not many indian fast bowler have done and what armchair critics like you right does not matter.[/quote'] Keep jerking off to the dancing donkey and his average of 46 over the last five years. I'd rather be an "armchair critic" than that. Link to comment
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