Old guy Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Specially Zaheer, Ishant should only play ODI'S in important tours , Nechim , Munaf, VK, Aaron ,Umesh can play ODI'S with PK,and be rotated. For test's we should look at speed , fitness, stamina, find more talent also rookies with those requisites can be groomed in the side then trundlers from ODI side in the test squad.We can look at Gony , Anwar Ahmed, Tyagi , Dinda, Shukla, Shami Ahmed, Suyal for potential bowlers with pace and future test bowlers thats wht sane people would do but indian selectors really dont belong to that category
G_B_ Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 well if we play Zaheer Umesh/Aaron Ishant then the answer will be yes. Looking at how Zaheer is bowling against Saurashtra in the Ranji, me thinks he will be more than fit for Australia. PLEASE DONT PLAY MITHUN
Old guy Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 well if we play Zaheer Umesh/Aaron Ishant then the answer will be yes. Looking at how Zaheer is bowling against Saurashtra in the Ranji, me thinks he will be more than fit for Australia. PLEASE DONT PLAY MITHUN yep zaheer got pujara and then 1 more guy today so 22 overs for 3 wickets on flat track i will say he is fit :Pdont worry unless there is some injury zaheer,ishant and yadav will play and even after injury i think aaron will be selected ahead of mithun
G_B_ Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 yep zaheer got pujara and then 1 more guy today so 22 overs for 3 wickets on flat track i will say he is fit :Pdont worry unless there is some injury zaheer,ishant and yadav will play and even after injury i think aaron will be selected ahead of mithun Zaheer also has two warm up games in Australia coming up. Good on kumble for getting India an extra warm up. :hatsoff: Mithun should be a player of last resorts. I dont know how he ever gets in.
Blue Panther Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Either umesh or varun will sit out. It won't be the fastest. zak, ishu, umesh is the most likely trio to play.
G_B_ Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 reports coming from Rajkot are saying Zak is bowling 138 on a consistent basis. So maybe not 145 but easily above 85mph for the pace trio we play. Obviously Varun Ishant and Yadav would be the fastest trio we have
Blue Panther Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 reports coming from Rajkot are saying Zak is bowling 138 on a consistent basis. So maybe not 145 but easily above 85mph for the pace trio we play. Obviously Varun Ishant and Yadav would be the fastest trio we have No, don't believe these reports. We have to c for ourselves.
G_B_ Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 No' date=' don't believe these reports. We have to c for ourselves.[/quote'] dude zaheer was never a 145 bowler in his younger days maybe an effort. But even in the WC of which i have the DVD of highlights and keep watching over and over :--D he clocked in the 135-140 zone. Probably averaged 137 thats excluding deliberate slower balls.
deathmonger Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 maybe we should kick out zak and play ishu aaron yadav for avg speed 140+? relax, i kid. :giggle:
saneindian Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Yes they are. However if they bowl 145 and not hit the correct length, they may get slaughtered in Australia. In a recent article Pattinson's comment tells you the importance of hitting the right length "Billy's taken over this year as the bowling coach and he's just said to me the length that I bowl for Victoria, that back of a length, doesn't work in Test cricket, it is hard to get wickets with that," Pattinson told the television panel show Inside Cricket. http://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/news/item/181977-pattinson-debut-exposes-coaching-disparity?tmpl=component&print=1 Hope Eric Simmons also teaches our bowler the same mantra.
rkt.india Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Yes they are. However if they bowl 145 and not hit the correct length, they may get slaughtered in Australia. In a recent article Pattinson's comment tells you the importance of hitting the right length http://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/news/item/181977-pattinson-debut-exposes-coaching-disparity?tmpl=component&print=1 Hope Eric Simmons also teaches our bowler the same mantra. Spot on. Bowl at a fuller length , not half volley, in between good to back of length, which is called an awkward length and creates doubts whether to play back or forward, because of the extra bounce available there, it becomes a tough length, and just around 3rd, 4th, and 5th stump. Different variations like bouncers and yorkers also to be used intelligently so that the bowler does not become predictable and to send batsman back in his crease.
carnish Posted December 7, 2011 Posted December 7, 2011 Spot on. Bowl at a fuller length , not half volley, in between good to back of length, which is called an awkward length and creates doubts whether to play back or forward, because of the extra bounce available there, it becomes a tough length, and just around 3rd, 4th, and 5th stump. Different variations like bouncers and yorkers also to be used intelligently so that the bowler does not become predictable and to send batsman back in his crease. spot on... the problem with mithun is he is not consistent and so he makes even VK look better... he keeps spreading it around which wont help him in tests... darren sammy being the biggest trundler is also accurate and therefore usually picks up crucial wickets.. so its usually not about pace, line and length also matters... cause else they may get slaughtered.. the fact that even Aaron isn't too consistent with his line is a bit of a deterrent so we just need to hope that its Zak + Ishu + Umesh who gets selected and remain fit throughout...
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