Old guy Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 It is not like Aaron would have won the series for us. Definitely 2 bad choices. Umesh is also an injury prone bowler. Zak is always. It is hard enough to find a frontline fast bowler for us let alone backup bowler. You need atleast 10 half decent seamers to deal with modern day cricket schedule. injury of pk and sreesanth didn't help Link to comment
bulbul Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 and i seriously want to support australia just for the sake of aggressive selection based on talent and not experience or stats feel free to do that... We still have around billion people...guess we can manage.. Link to comment
Lord Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 and i seriously want to support australia just for the sake of aggressive selection based on talent and not experience or stats like Phil Hughes? Link to comment
Needforspeed Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 It wasn't. Who told you that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agneepath It ways it "failed commercially at the box office" though Bachan & Chakraborthy (Mithun) won National awards for the film Link to comment
bulbul Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Much better than having Vinay Kumar thats u r opinion... To prove it right or wrong VK has to play in OZ :winky: Link to comment
Old guy Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Talent is subjective' date=' experience and stats are not. The selectors have a job to do and are accountable. They cannot make selections out of gutfeel.[/quote'] like rkt said they didn't select them by gut.. they kept eye on these guys since there under 15 days as good prospects and then kept check on action and everything and selected them as soon as they got lil experience in fc cricket! pat cummings was selected after 4 fc games.. thats how u select by keeping check on players not by reading stats good exampe mithun he is terribly out of rhythm and he is still selected unbelievable Link to comment
bulbul Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 like Phil Hughes? even Starc... Link to comment
Magneto Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agneepath It ways it "failed commercially at the box office" though Bachan & Chakraborthy (Mithun) won National awards for the film That wikipedia entry is trash. Agneepath was quite a blockbuster. Were you around then? Link to comment
Old guy Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 like Phil Hughes? he wont be in team.. marsh would come back and khawaja would bat at no 3 Link to comment
Needforspeed Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 That wikipedia entry is trash. Agneepath was quite a blockbuster. Were you around then? Yeah..were u? Link to comment
Magneto Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 like rkt said they didn't select them by gut.. they kept eye on these guys since there under 15 days as good prospects and then kept check on action and everything and selected them as soon as they got lil experience in fc cricket! pat cummings was selected after 4 fc games.. thats how u select by keeping check on players not by reading stats good exampe mithun he is terribly out of rhythm and he is still selected unbelievable Systems are different. Population sizes too. That will not happen in India so soon, specially in the case of bowlers. They do keep an eye on the batters, though. Link to comment
bulbul Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 like rkt said they didn't select them by gut.. they kept eye on these guys since there under 15 days as good prospects and then kept check on action and everything and selected them as soon as they got lil experience in fc cricket! pat cummings was selected after 4 fc games.. thats how u select by keeping check on players not by reading stats good exampe mithun he is terribly out of rhythm and he is still selected unbelievable they selected Cummins becuase they didnt have much chance...OZ fell from their high standards so much that they even had a Review committe.. We are not fallen to such depths and even without good bowling we maintained top ranking...so not so desperate like oz.. Link to comment
Old guy Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 even Starc... did ya see him bowl today? he was struggling with rhythm but still bowled many good deliveries shaping into batsman at good pace! he is like quicker version of irfan pathan lmfao Link to comment
Magneto Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Yeah..were u? Very much. Remember the long queues and the rage. And no one remakes a box-office failure @ agneepath remake. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Vinay, Mithun, Ishant would be Indian bowlers after 2 tests. It would be better if Indian team go with Ojha in case any of 3 seamers (zak,uy, ishant) get injured. Link to comment
NareshK Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 At least they didnt pick the useless Pathan. But its hilarious to read all the comments from sore ICFers now that their breakneck speed poster boy Aaron is out.:hysterical: Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Systems are different. Population sizes too. That will not happen in India so soon' date=' specially in the case of bowlers. They do keep an eye on the batters, though.[/quote'] Fast bowling culture, physique level , stamina in everything Australia are way infront of India. They probably already have 20 Aarons. Link to comment
Needforspeed Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Very much. Remember the long queues and the rage. And no one remakes a box-office failure @ agneepath remake. well I stand corrected..Then there is hope for the Agneepath series too..:two_thumbs_up: Link to comment
Old guy Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 they selected Cummins becuase they didnt have much chance...OZ fell from their high standards so much that they even had a Review committe.. We are not fallen to such depths and even without good bowling we maintained top ranking...so not so desperate like oz.. apparently they did.. it was just wrong decision to persist with johnson they could ve given chances to pattinson before australia will always produce good talents and they made review commitee is that really a bad thing? we needed something like that after england series 4-0 is a 4-0 no excuses we got injured thats our fault more over not making review committee would ve been a mistake wht this shows is that they want to rectify problems and not make mistakes again Link to comment
CoverDrive Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I think bottom line is we do not have a good pace backup and in last 2 years we have suffered a lot due to injuries. Guys like Aaron, Yadav and others in the waiting need some time to get some experience and become consistent performers. Our bowlers from the 3-4 years back - RP, Munaf, Irfan have all regressed sadly and that is a big problem. Ishant also does not seem to be improving a lot. pretty depressing for an Indian fan. we are again going to suffer because of this. I envy England for thier pool of fast bowlers they can rotate and get consistent results Link to comment
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