Blame Game | Retirement | BCCI | IPL | BIG 3 etc thread

[Chetan Charles]

India Down n under.. Itz been India's most below par performance in the recent past...the kind of loss india s gng thru is truly hard 4 any diehard ICF....bt the questn t be askd s wr wtz wrng? I Prefr saying dat thr S no co-ordination watsoevr btwn our playrs r8 4m the word go frm MCG...cricketz al abt a team game n team efort,bt i nevr noticd a team effort..indians nevr managd to go past 200 runs in an innings n al 3tests,ths goes to shw the clas of our bating unit n ds series.itz a comprehensive bating failure..wr openers nevr fird n gave starts india needed ..n thr body language so poor dat it ws an indication dat thy wr nvr gonna make any kind of impact...bt itz d tym to pull up thr socks n sort ot their woes n perform colectively...wr s indian cricket going frm here?

[punjabi_khota]

[Asim]

Sida hi New Thread, chaa gaey boss!

[achilles]

India for gradual phasing out of Dhoni in Tests :two_thumbs_up:

[achilles]

Are you a combination of Chetan Hansraj and Charles Sobhraj?

[Zelch]

FP: Our cricketers behave like mean and selfish capitalists

Losing a series shamelessly is one thing. But to be brazenly self-assertive about your losing ways is quite another. More than Team IndiaÃÔ performance, itÃÔ the attitude that needs to be put under the scanner. The present incapacity of Team India, after all, is the result of a grave attitude problem. Let me explain what I mean. After the Sydney Test, Gavaskar had pointed out how the Indian side had conveniently been skipping practice sessions. As if out of vengeance, instead of making amends, the team chose to go go-karting. Now go-karting would seem fine when the team is doing well and wants to take some pressure off, not when almost your entire batting line-up is trembling at the crease. The team didnÃÕ stop at that. Dravid, in a press conference, defiantly maintained that the team was unaffected by the go-karting criticism. Now would you expect this team to even admit that there is something majorly wrong with its attitude? True to his stubborn nature, Dhoni once again refused to heed to sage counsel and went ahead with an unchanged batting line-up. Now when Dhoni was determined not to play Rohit Sharma even here, what sense would it have made to have Sharma talk to the press ahead of the Sydney Test and say he was mentally prepared to play the Test? The sheer thoughtlessness behind the move is what defines DhoniÃÔ captaincy today. He is a pale shadow of his former self, as lost on the field as Azharuddin was at one point when the Indian team took the field to lose. By playing an unchanged batting line-up, Dhoni has ensured that Laxman has probably played his last Test match, besides denting SharmaÃÔ confidence. Moreover, lest youÃ×e failed to make this out, Dhoni has been playing an astute mind game lately. By talking about his retirement from ÃÃne form of the game by the end of 2013, isnÃÕ he trying to bargain for the captainÃÔ job till then? If he seriously wants to retire from one form of the game, it should be the T20 and IPL. For someone whoÃÔ got so much from the game, a good way to give the country back would be to again try being the role model he once was. Dhoni should be candid about the damage that IPL has inflicted upon IndiaÃÔ Test performance. If Dhoni does have something left to prove, itÃÔ really his credentials as a Test cricketer and a Test captain. And a good way to do that will be not to take the easy way out. But if Dhoni continues with his ?013 end mind game, it would be better to rest him right away and have him give company to his good friend, Harbhajan.:two_thumbs_up: Strangely even as Dhoni has begun to talk about his possible retirement, the Bhishma Pitamah of Indian cricket, Sachin Tendulkar refuses to break his silence on the issue. Possibly Sachin could be contemplating his retirement from ÃÃne form of the game after he gets the Bharat Ratna. In the process though, SachinÃÔ biggest supporters might have to bear the ordeal of seeing him reduce to a meager mortal. Agree we live in a consumerist, market-driven economy but nothing can be sadder than our cricketers behave like mean and selfish capitalists. That we have nobody who even remotely qualifies to replace Dhoni only corroborates the sorry state of Team India. Surely, this team is headed for a 0-4 whitewash, something our friendly neighbour Wasim Akram knew all along. Another go-karting session before the match might of course help reduce the duration of the match even further.

http://www.firstpost.com/sports/dhoni%E2%80%99s-captaincy-can%E2%80%99t-escape-scrutiny-all-the-time-170923.html?utm_source=recommend

[NeutralCat]

India's gloom gets darker under a blazing sun Most dangerous of all is the indication that India's attitude to overseas results has deteriorated, their desire and resolve waning with the rationalisation that home results count for more than those away - a populist view that has very little to do with the ways of high performance sportsmen. Taunts directed at Australia's batsmen from the likes of Virat Kohli and Ishant have suggested that it is the younger players who have taken this stance, bleak tidings indeed for those hoping for life beyond Laxman, Tendulkar, Dravid and Zaheer. It was the sort of view brought to Australia by Indian teams of decades ago. And it is another reason why the first two days of this Test should not be written off as that same old Adelaide Oval script. http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-india-2011/content/current/story/550846.html

[BeautifulGame]

The same younger generation would have done a lot better if we had given them the chance instead of clinging on with these old timers. And who gives a shite about attitudes.Only performances matters.

[vvvslaxman]

The biggest manhoos is Duncan Fletcher ' date='England lost so much when he was coach[/quote'] It was a big mistake from the outset.

[J P K]

http://www.cricketcountry.com/cricket-articles/Stop-blaming-MS-Dhoni-for-India-debacle-Kapil-Dev/10739 after seeing sehwag` captaincy everyone taking a U turn :hysterical:

[Aussie-r-best]

There is so many blamed and that is understandable.... Supporters get very worked up and understandably let down by sides with promise not delivering (I have had the same with the Aussies over the past few years). Its clear from what I see here and read around the place that the BCCI is were a good amount of the blame should be. That would be followed by the coaching staff, there appears to be little if any plan and the third is the players for failing to deliver anything (despite short birsts of good play - and kholi is not in this group he is a shining light for the future even if he is a spoilt brat). BCCI 60% Coaching 20% Players 20% I listend to a great interview with Mickey Arthur the Aus coach in Perth... He was very humilitous talking of his work on the improvement of the team... He has been great with what he has bought in but he said irespective of training and plans, its up to the players to implement and stick to the plans.... neither planning training or positive play from very experienced and well established players has occurred... they need to be accountable. But as for the BCCI, they have really dug a hole for the team... so many impending retirements and they have not allowed any gradual change by bringing in young guys to get experience... a rotation policy would have worked well over the last two years, half a dozen young kids come in and would have played tests, ODIs and T20s with the main team and developed... It cannot be argued that the team needed all the legends in at once and that putting one or two players (different ones each time) out for a test or other match rest would have produced differnt results... the underperformance of the superstars (RD in Eng and SRT generally out of that)... There is so much work now for India to return... win in India now have little or no meaning other than to indians... It is and will nw be established that they are good/great at home but are close to the worst travelling team in cricket and therefore there is no consistency in maintaining a cricket superpower position

[Texan]

Mute, dumb, deaf BCCI After arguably the worst few months for Indian cricket, what has the BCCI done? Have they constituted a committee to look into the debacles and offer suggestions? Have they asked the team management to change the team? Have they even asked for a reshuffle in the batting line-up?? They have just been mute, deaf and dumb spectators who are trying to justify the losses saying everyone wins in their own backyard. This corrupt BCCI is no good. Any other team that would have been beaten so badly would have made sweeping changes, but the bastards in BCCI are just busy counting the money they're making. Blo ody f u * king a $s holes - Frustrations of an angry fan.

[NeutralCat]

Corruption, my friend, as long as they are like pigs feeding from the trough nothing will change in India cricket.

[Vikas Bhatt]

So finally Sehwag joins the clowning bandwagon of his boss BCCI. "We also won 2-0" at home". "We are still one day World Champions and that will be a different ball game". Seriously if such a senior player has this excuse to make then what can I say. Like his dense Delhi mate Gambhir he also believes that winning at home and winning Pajama matches makes up for being pathetic losers in test cricket. Someone please shoot me. I cannot continue being an Indian cricket fan anymore. Our cricket is simply no longer worth it if this is how our corrupt players and board view test cricket. This is the most shameful chapter ever in our entire cricketing history. I feel disgusted, too much disgusted right now.

[The Dark Horse]

Someone should take the bcci site down

[Texan]

So finally Sehwag joins the clowning bandwagon of his boss BCCI. "We also won 2-0" at home". "We are still one day World Champions and that will be a different ball game". Seriously if such a senior player has this excuse to make then what can I say. Like his dense Delhi mate Gambhir he also believes that winning at home and winning Pajama matches makes up for being pathetic losers in test cricket. Someone please shoot me. I cannot continue being an Indian cricket fan anymore. Our cricket is simply no longer worth it if this is how our corrupt players and board view test cricket. This is the most shameful chapter ever in our entire cricketing history. I feel disgusted, too much disgusted right now.

I am with you. What appalls me even more is the disgusting attitude of our team and team management. Despite disgraceful loss after disgraceful loss, they were more interested in keeping the 3 - 4 seniors happy rather than try to win for the 1 billion + people. These idiots don't deserve our love and adulation. They won't even care since they continue to make their millions.

[Vikas Bhatt]

Perhaps the BCCI and selectors are scared of dropping seniors because truth is the youngsters are even worse and fit only for IPL and one day tamasha. Perhaps the BCCI realizes it has rode out it's luck riding the lion of corporate greed and now the same is set to throw them off the back and devour them. They were happy to be in land of ignorance counting moolah and now simply have no clue what to do to correct the mess since they have never exercised their grey cells in the brain for anything productive ever.