bulbul Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 We need at least one experienced man in the middle order. A team full of youngsters will be as bad as a team full of oldies IMO. Sachin can at least field and run b/w the wickets .. other 2 are **** fielders and runners. He appears to be in a better touch. I just have a feeling he still have a lot to offer its just a matter of one big innings. Should not be in the ODIs team though. where the experience helped when we lost 7 away games ? how ever these youngsters praise or tell Legends are inspiration i really dont thunk they will genuinelly give value to seniors actions..
special K Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 This thread is full of manipulative bullshit. Why select only the last 10 tests you moron? Look at the last 3 years, maybe then Dravid's record will wane compared to Tendulkar's. I love Dravid and everything, I think he's one of the greatest of recent times, but you can't compare him to the Little Master, it's unfair on Dravid, because there is no comparison. Dravid is on the same level as Tendulker in ters of test bastmen. I'd have Dravid slightly better tests. Tendulker was the better one day batsman out of the two. And I agree with the other chap that Ponting and Lara will be held in the same regard by neutrals as Tendulker. And Tendulker should be dropped after this OZ tour ends. There's no point in him playing in home series for 18 months. Let your youngsters get a chance.
deathmonger Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Dravid is on the same level as Tendulker in ters of test bastmen. I'd have Dravid slightly better tests. Tendulker was the better one day batsman out of the two. And I agree with the other chap that Ponting and Lara will be held in the same regard by neutrals as Tendulker. And Tendulker should be dropped after this OZ tour ends. There's no point in him playing in home series for 18 months. Let your youngsters get a chance. not really. Tendulkar will slightly be above. Ponting's legacy will be tarnished by his decline.
Pagalpanti Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Not sure why Sachin is still playing ODI's.
Ultimate_Game Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 not really. Tendulkar will slightly be above. Ponting's legacy will be tarnished by his decline. I guess we managed to stop his decline and give him a new lease of life. Now wait and see Ponting plunder runs all over for the next year or two :haha:
Texan Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 One is a god' date=' others mere mortals[/quote'] And who made him a God??? Fanatic cricket fans?? He is not a GOD. For the last time, he has never done any "godly" act. He should be treated like everyone else and in my opinion doesn't deserve to be in the team after this series. It's time to look beyond Tendulkar and his mindless quest for personal milestones.
deathmonger Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 I guess we managed to stop his decline and give him a new lease of life. Now wait and see Ponting plunder runs all over for the next year or two :haha: not really. Ponting is still clueless against good bowling (like Yadav's delivery). His century in Sydney is as meaningful as a Dhoni century.
NareshK Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Yes, some people keep saying he was "looking good" and "timing the ball nicely" but the fact of the matter is it doesnt matter at the end of the day when you look at the scoreboard. You dont get any points for playing some good shots if you get out after a start. IMO Sachin has been as much a failure as other batsmen, more so because he failed in England too. It was a collective batting failure and nobody should be given preferential treatment.
Ultimate_Game Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 not really. Ponting is still clueless against good bowling (like Yadav's delivery). His century in Sydney is as meaningful as a Dhoni century. Disagree. Ponting scored the 100 when Aus were 37/3. His 100 was much better than Hussey's. Also Ponting scored crucial half centuries at Melbourne when Indian bowlers were threatening to put India in control. This series after Clarke, Ponting has been the next best batsman.
SachDan Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Dravid is on the same level as Tendulker in ters of test bastmen. I'd have Dravid slightly better tests. Tendulker was the better one day batsman out of the two. And I agree with the other chap that Ponting and Lara will be held in the same regard by neutrals as Tendulker. And Tendulker should be dropped after this OZ tour ends. There's no point in him playing in home series for 18 months. Let your youngsters get a chance. I fully understand your concern for our team, you must be totally devastated by our team's performance..:((
Texan Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Drop Sachin after Australia tour Yes, drop him. He's been going after this personal milestone (which isn't really a milestone whatsoever... I mean WTF is 100 international hundreds... there never was a milestone like that) And don't tell me this is a media hyped milestone and Sachin doesn't care. He does care. He refused a single while batting in the 4th innings against Sri Lanka. It clearly showed that he was going after the milestone. Even though India wasn't guaranteed to win at the time when he refused, he still did it so that he gets to his milestone. Clearly, in his long career, despite all the great achievements that have helped India win, we have seen many times in the past that Sachin often values personal milestones above the team cause.
Ultimate_Game Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Maybe he can play another year or so as he should go after Laxman and Dravid. But yeah he shouldn't be around in a year's time and ideally he should retire after the Eng series later this year at home.
Texan Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Maybe he can play another year or so as he should go after Laxman and Dravid. But yeah he shouldn't be around in a year's time and ideally he should retire after the Eng series later this year at home. I don't see a point in him playing a home test series. It would be better in the interests of the Indian team if we give a younger batsman a chance in India rather than thrust them into the team away. Why let him play just so that he gets to his 100th 100? I don't know what obsession Indian players tend to have towards personal milestones. Kapil Dev was a phenomenal player too, but in the end, just kept dragging himself match after match just so that he could overtake Hadlee.
deathmonger Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Disagree. Ponting scored the 100 when Aus were 37/3. His 100 was much better than Hussey's. Also Ponting scored crucial half centuries at Melbourne when Indian bowlers were threatening to put India in control. This series after Clarke' date=' Ponting has been the next best batsman.[/quote'] But doesn't really mean he's back. I'll be surprised if he scores a ton after this series ever again.
Number Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 I fully understand your concern for our team' date=' you must be totally devastated by our team's performance..:(([/quote'] From PP ?? :questionmark:
Sachinism Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 I love Dravid and all, but its quite sickening to see these retards come out of the woodwork after one good series in 3 years. The guy has been pathetic, sorry there is no other words for it. A good tour of England when everyone else struggled and suddenly everything else is forgotten. Tendulkar's time has come too, he needs to move on pretty soon, yeh he's looking good, but its time to build a new team. Youngsters need to learn to take on more responsibility. But to compare the two after the last few years :haha: Only the deluded...
The Outsider Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Chalta Phirta wicket - Sachin Tendulkar.
Ultimate_Game Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 I love Dravid and all, but its quite sickening to see these retards come out of the woodwork after one good series in 3 years. The guy has been pathetic, sorry there is no other words for it. A good tour of England when everyone else struggled and suddenly everything else is forgotten. Tendulkar's time has come too, he needs to move on pretty soon, yeh he's looking good, but its time to build a new team. Youngsters need to learn to take on more responsibility. But to compare the two after the last few years :haha: Only the deluded... Nobody's comparing the two... people are simply saying we need to move on. In fact Laxman needs to go now along with Dravid and SRT can be there to help out the youngsters over the next year or so but he will also need to be phased out sometime next year at the latest and ideally after the Eng home series later this year.
Sachinism Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Nobody's comparing the two... people are simply saying we need to move on. In fact Laxman needs to go now along with Dravid and SRT can be there to help out the youngsters over the next year or so but he will also need to be phased out sometime next year at the latest and ideally after the Eng home series later this year. What did you think, Tendulkar is going to be playing for another 10 years? He's going pretty soon as well. But to make a thread about why there is a separate yardstick for both is just being blind and/or ignorant.
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