DomainK Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Not only we are over sensitive and we can't take even a bit of criticism in the right way, but we are always right in the front when it comes to criticizing others.
ViruRulez Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Not only we are over sensitive and we can't take even a bit of criticism in the right way' date=' but we are always right in the front when it comes to criticizing others.[/quote'] ++ The more I see the more I am p!ssed off with the hypocrisy in the nation. And it is only increasing with time. We are sensitive in every aspect of life. To be honest, we make a mountain out of a molehill. Perhaps more people need to enter the internets and start troaling. Only then can their minds open up to take up things lightly. :giggle: Having said that other countries are also quite sensitive including the West though not as much as we are.
Brainfade Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Here's my stance: (1) If a non-Indian points out India's deficiencies not having truly experienced the bad along with the good that India has, I get pissed. (2) If an NRI goes on and on complaining about how "Indians have no civic sense" or whatever other tripe, while enjoying the luxuries of the West, I get pissed. You either go back or do something about it, or shove it since you chose to escape it. (3) If a person who is living and experiencing India's deficiencies on a day-to-day basis complains about it, I listen and have a conversation about it, and don't get pissed.
flamy Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 chips on the shoulder, that's all. a case of colonial hangover. I have seen slow generational shifts happening. As an example, what I observed about the Portuguese people was that most of them harbored a deeply-seated inferiority complex. Which might be a product of them having had colonised at some point in their history and now having been reduced to just another country in the EU (coupled with their economy, of course). Largely different from the neighboring Spaniards.
flamy Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Here's my stance: (1) If a non-Indian points out India's deficiencies not having truly experienced the bad along with the good that India has, I get pissed. (2) If an NRI goes on and on complaining about how "Indians have no civic sense" or whatever other tripe, while enjoying the luxuries of the West, I get pissed. You either go back or do something about it, or shove it since you chose to escape it. (3) If a person who is living and experiencing India's deficiencies on a day-to-day basis complains about it, I listen and have a conversation about it, and don't get pissed. About point 2, you don't ask a movie critic to go and redirect the movie, do you?
Ram Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 We are not any more sensitive than any other people in the world. The problem is - while growing up, we don’t get exposed to nearly as much as humor, irony and sarcasm as some of the folks in the west. But with increased internet access and cable penetration, things are changing fast.
Brainfade Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 About point 2' date=' you don't ask a movie critic to go and redirect the movie, do you?[/quote'] Bad analogy. First, real life is not a movie. Second, when you watch a movie, you have invested in it, and have the standing to criticize. When you have disinvested by moving away, you lose that standing.
flamy Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Bad analogy. First' date=' real life is not a movie. Second, when you watch a movie, you have invested in it, and have the standing to criticize. When you have disinvested by moving away, you lose that standing.[/quote'] OK, I think I see where you are coming from. What's your stand on a tourist criticizing India?
Cricketics Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Yes, someone creates a movie called Slumdog Millionaire and some people go mad because poverty is shown.
yoda Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Ask Americans if they can take any criticism of their own. Most people are defensive in nature, IMO.
NeutralCat Posted January 20, 2012 Author Posted January 20, 2012 OK then a question, do you guys think that I am wrong to point out the flaws in Indian society as well? Considering I have spent all my life in Australia, have grown up in Australia although I was born in India? I guess for me as an outsider looking into India, it's easy for me to see all the flaws, the corruption, the poverty and wonder why India is such a un-equal society. But on the other hand I also love India, a lot of my Aussie friends who have been to India always tell me how much they enjoyed the country, some of my female friends who are white have been to India but also always complained about the men in India, the staring, the groping etc of them, how these men try and take sneaky photos of them etc. In India you guys call it eve teasing, but in other countries that is considered sexual assault, I guess I would like your opinions on this? Do you guys notice this? And what do you guys think? Am I being unfair here? I tend to believe my friends, I have heard and read quite a lot of this happening in India. I want an honest discussion here, I want to know how you guys who live in the country feel and think about this. Is it a case of turning a blind eye to the things that happen to women? Is there a apathy, even saying "eve teasing" is like saying it's just kids don't worry about it, when we all know that it is sexual assault.
NeutralCat Posted January 21, 2012 Author Posted January 21, 2012 Tdigi, thanks for that its awesome to see campaigns like this in India, but do you think more can be done? For example education, starting in primary school onwards? But things like this commercial are a great step.
Nova Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Ofcourse more needs to be done. There are NGOs working on this and yeah education helps. India is largely still a sexually regressive society and some people just get a kick out of the eve-teasing. This is just one angle to the story coz in reality even in western countries, women will get assaulted and raped.. but yeah this is a bigger social problem in India. Can't deny it. Read this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16503338
NeutralCat Posted January 21, 2012 Author Posted January 21, 2012 Yes I agree rape and sexual assault happens all over the world, I think India at the moment iis in the middle of massive change. A big shift in the country the collision between, the modern India and the rural India and I guess with great change comes greater problems. In a lot of ways India is an amazing country, I still think women in India don't get the equal rights as they would in other countries, but I know that things are changing, very slowly, but still changing. I guess it's the young people on India who are changing things, the future is up to the young to make of it what they will.
EnterTheVoid Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 The really sensitive/moronic ones are those that live in the west and continually harp "East or West, India is the best" to no end. Case in point, "Slumdog Millionaire" and all the NRI's that started creating a fuss over the depiction of poverty. FFS, the poverty is there and it is very real. I have a thick enough skin to ignore moronic jibes aimed at me :king:
NeutralCat Posted January 21, 2012 Author Posted January 21, 2012 Sree, I hope you don't think I am attacking India, I am just interested in knowing how people who live in India and deal with these situations every day. Especially women, but I don;t think there are many women on these forums. It would be interesting to get a woman's point of view as well, I have read a few blogs that India women write on the net and it seems to me that women in India are still not treated with equality? And have to run the gambit of sexual harassment etc.
EnterTheVoid Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 http://www.whiteindianhousewife.com/ Read this. Its about a Melbourne housewife that moves to Mumbai. You said you are in Australia. I am guessing Sydney/Melbourne?
cybervickey Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Here's my stance: (1) If a non-Indian points out India's deficiencies not having truly experienced the bad along with the good that India has, I get pissed. (2) If an NRI goes on and on complaining about how "Indians have no civic sense" or whatever other tripe, while enjoying the luxuries of the West, I get pissed. You either go back or do something about it, or shove it since you chose to escape it. (3) If a person who is living and experiencing India's deficiencies on a day-to-day basis complains about it, I listen and have a conversation about it, and don't get pissed. I am exactly like that .I feel that people shouldn't have the right to criticize something unless they are well informed about it . The best way to be informed about something is to experience it first hand. Sometimes i feel that people criticize countries/people/customs/cultures based on stereotypes or something they heard from someone. If a gora went to india and lived in the ghetto or went to pakistan and experienced the 1-2 day long power outages then I feel that the have every right to criticize those countries.I have teh sam opinion about people criticizing the west without ever actually experiencing the Western style of life first hand.
NeutralCat Posted January 21, 2012 Author Posted January 21, 2012 Sree, yes I am in Melbourne, have read that blog and she also question Indian men's attitudes towards women.
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