Anonymous Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Cpi Minnows :--D I'll vote for a BJP govt led by Modi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1983-2011 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Minnows :--D I'll vote for a BJP govt led by Modi that means never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 The rural public of India are lot more intelligent and understand the reality of India lot better than some of the internet warriors. :agree: They are in larger numbers than urban voters & their issues far bigger than ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 And three is a crowd The elections are not really round the corner, but the talk of political alignments is already in the air. And as always, there will be talk of a Third Front. And indeed this could well be a possibility. But let me take you through the present scenarios. The UPA is very much there. It seems to be getting a spring back in its step after its third anniversary bash that had Samajwadi Party chief Mulayam Singh in attendance. The NDA should be getting its act together now that the party president has got another shot at the job. A Third Front could be a possibility given the number of parties that have shown a proclivity for such experiments in the past. Once upon a time, the Left was a glue to hold together the alternative forces. Unfortunately, that situation no longer holds. There was a time, I thought, that the Left might have played a crucial role in politics. But sadly, that was not to be with the likes of Prakash Karat holding the CPI(M)'s reins without the flexibility and pragmatism of his predecessor, HS Surjeet. At one time, a Communist leader could actually have become the prime minister, but alas, that was not to be thanks to the party's ideologically dogmatic core. So if I was to look at the gameplan for a Third Front, what would it look like? There are several players here who have all made their presence felt on the national scene. Let me start with J Jaya-lalithaa, who holds all the aces in Tamil Nadu as of now. She is also trying to make her voice heard beyond Tamil Nadu with her very open support for PA Sangma for president. Then again, on her own she may not be able to hack it. But she seems to have made an alliance with Naveen Patnaik. Here is a chief minister who has apparently not left his state ever since he came to power. There have been problems that he has faced with the kidnappings and the Maoists, but somehow or the other it does not seem to have diminished his stature. The other person who might be part of this pack could be the very mercurial Mamata Banerjee. As of now, she is in a bit of an angry mood with the government, but given her temperament, she is easily swayed. She has a very definite agenda. As seen recently, on a television show, she is very clear that anyone who is even remotely seen as pro-Left is an enemy. She certainly has numbers but she is a maverick in the extreme. But could she be an ally and take a backseat to the likes of Jayalalithaa? The man who really could be the pivot in the Third Front is Nitish Kumar. He has delivered the goods in Bihar. He has changed the face of Bihar from one of a state driven with criminality to one where girls can go to school on bicycles that he has provided. Another possible Third Front candidate, though she may object to it, is Mayawati. She has a unique brand identity, she has a presence, and with a bit here or there, she has the numbers. But I really see her as a person who would like the top slot. And so we come to the crux of the matter. The Third Front cannot happen in a long time since most of the players are not willing to accept second place. But most important, they come from different ideological backgrounds. The issue of caste is not overwhelming in Tamil Nadu, for Mayawati it is one. For Nitish Kumar, the whole focus is on development as also for Patnaik. Our past experiences with the Third Front have not been extremely happy. The main issue which brought Third Fronts together was to be in opposition to the government of the day. Today, that does not seem to be a reality. For the satraps in states seem far more interested in getting their own packages through than aiming for any big-ticket role on the national stage. Banerjee certainly wants a bail-out package, she does not seem to want to pitch any higher than that. Jayalalithaa seems to want to get her way with the presidential election, as also Patnaik. Mayawati does not seem to want to look beyond the next state election. So the birth of a Third Front before elections will depend largely on how the smaller parties' collective strength compares with that of the single largest party, be it the Congress or the BJP. But as of now, it would really seem that two is a company but three is a crowd. Hindustan Times I've been saying this for a long time that a Third Front simply cannot work now because the leaders who would make up the Third Front are so eccentric, power hungry, opportunistic and narrow minded that they wouldn't be able to work together unless there is a bigger National Party like BJP or Congress to lead them and hold the coalition together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superstar Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Tough choice. 1. Both are neck to neck in corruption. YSR vs Raja 2. Congress will play with Muslim sentiments and Bjp will play with Hindus and both love seeing them killing each other. 3. Both will get money from big business and sell the country to them. 4. Both are equally incompetent. I wish they can rule us alternatively :pray: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Congress: Centre Without Satraps UPA-II completing three years in power also marks the beginning of slog overs before the 2014 elections. The next two years will see parties overhauling their organisational machinery, fine-tuning political planks, lining up the ground forces and making their governments provide policy backup. The assembly polls in Gujarat and Himachal Pradesh later this year and in Karnataka, Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Rajasthan, Delhi and a couple of north-eastern states next year will set the tempo. Expect party leaders to experiment with internal changes. The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) started it when the Mumbai national executive meet implemented the RSS’ wish to extend Nitin Gadkari’s presidential term. It also made attempts for a truce between Gadkari and Narendra Modi (at least till the Gujarat polls) and a bid to humour Yeddyurappa. These internal realignments have also triggered counter-moves from within: L K Advani’s ‘blog bomb’ and RSS’ Modi-needling. At least the BJP has some action rocking its party floor! But what about the Congress? One can see the leadership readying for a Cabinet and organisational reshuffle. Shuffling cards is the stereotypical response when the plot goes awry. What matters is how it is done: with a touch of boldness/imagination or with the usual reverence for status quo. Two things should provide an indication: the role Rahul Gandhi will play henceforth and how the leadership addresses its most crippling weakness: missing Congress leaders who can deliver in the states. Mr Gandhi’s tenure as general secretary in-charge of the Youth Congress, with its high point being the Congress’ good show in Uttar Pradesh in the 2009 Lok Sabha polls and the lowest being the assembly poll routs in Bihar and Uttar Pradesh, should make him realise that no amount of groundwork by the two Gandhis alone will suffice. They have to be backed by a line of strong regional satraps — not to be confused with ‘hereditary Turks’ and ‘Amul babies’ — who have risen from the masses. The All India Congress Committee’s (AICC) neglect of grooming credible regional leaders is glaring. While the Congress and BJP have many rootless central leaders, the saffron party has many effective regional leaders such as Narendra Modi, Shivraj Singh Chauhan, Raman Singh, Arjun Munda and Manohar Parrikar. They are also blessed by the AICC’s failure to prop up credible challengers. This Congress problem has now reached two crucial states, post-YSR Andhra Pradesh and Maharashtra, where rootless leaders are given charge. While the 13 Congress-ruled states (including Jammu & Kashmir with NC) account for a mere 182 Lok Sabha seats, the nine BJPcontrolled relatively bigger states (including Punjab and Bihar with allies) have 167 seats. The four big states led by regional parties — Uttar Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal and Orissa — which account for 182 seats, have no credible Congress satrap. In her address to the 1998 AICC plenary session, Sonia Gandhi listed, as her first priority, the revival of Congress in four biggest states: Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Tamil Nadu and West Bengal. Fourteen years on, the Congress’ share of the 161 Lok Sabha seats in these states is a mere 38. There are not even two credible PCC leaders each from these states. This paucity of satraps is a departure from tradition. The Nehru era and the early Indira Gandhi days saw critical roles for the party’s heavyweight regional bosses. Once Indira Gandhi established herself, she crushed the so-called syndicate and propped up her loyalists, who were still rooted players. In any case, Indira Gandhi had the charisma to make the Congress win all by herself. On his part, Rajiv Gandhi made the fatal mistake of alienating traditional leaders by dubbing them ‘power brokers’ and insulting some, like Veerendra Patil. No wonder Gandhi and his ‘chosen apolitical team’ had no clue about how to deal with the Bofors issue. But Sanjay Gandhi, for all his faults, understood the importance of building a credible line of leaders. Today’s many top Congress leaders such as Ahmed Patel, Digvijaya Singh, Ghulam Nabi Azad, Ashok Gehlot, etc, were all initially spotted by him. Sanjay Gandhi also displayed boldness in defying the traditional Congress’ social power structure. He took on Brahmin hegemony in Uttar Pradesh Congress by appointing a Thakur, V P Singh, as chief minister. He gave Maharashtra its only Muslim chief minister: A R Antulay. He challenged Karnataka’s Vokkaliga-Lingayat camps by appointing a Brahmin, Gundu Rao, as chief minister just like he stirred the Andhra pot by making Anjayya its first Dalit chief minister. As the Sonia-led Congress tries to revive its fortunes ahead of 2014 polls, its future, Rahul, has an option of either joining the Manmohan Singh Cabinet or taking over a larger AICC post. But if he has to stabilise and take forward his career and the Congress, Mr Gandhi should start acknowledging the importance of empowering real politicians, not unproductive loyalists, in the states. No star centre-forward can hope to score a winner without the backing of a formidable team — be it the front-line or the defence. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 How do you decide whom to vote? I don't want to see Congress at center, but if Congress candidate is better than BJP candidate then I'll vote for Congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 ^for the last 4 or 5 years he has been projected as the future PM and the leader of the Kangress so I'm sure he will be projected as PM. The Kangress is still in the delusion that he is actually capable of being India's PM but the reality is very different and I think it will be too late before Kangress realizes this. IMHO Priyanka Gandhi would be a much better choice than this fake "yuvraaj". i thought same earlier... but now situation is different her husband is have big ambitions in politics so she will become rubber stamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi B Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 what do the biyanka nd raul even know about politics, heck they wouldnt even know the preamble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 what do the biyanka nd raul even know about politics' date=' heck they wouldnt even know the preamble[/quote'] they have the Gandhi surname and for the Kangress workers and many voters thats enough to make them the leaders of this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 what do the biyanka nd raul even know about politics' date=' heck they wouldnt even know the preamble[/quote'] What do some independent capndidate know about politics? What would a young guy coming into politics for the fist time know about it? Not talking about Gandhs here, but for india to succeed, less people who know politics and more honest people should be elected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utalk Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Labour here and PTI in Pakistan: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 i thought same earlier... but now situation is different her husband is have big ambitions in politics so she will become rubber stamp I don't think so. She doesn't seem to be someone who can be a rubber stamp or can be controlled by others. Also, I really don't think that the Cong workers will accept an "outsider" (Robert Vadra) without the Gandhi surname to rule the Party/Country if people from the Gandhi family are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1983-2011 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 BJP 32 - 6 Congress in the poll BJP gonna wipe the floor with congress then:cheer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Labour here and PTI in Pakistan: Will be difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utalk Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Will be difficult What will be difficult? Duel nationality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 BJP 32 - 6 Congress in the poll BJP gonna wipe the floor with congress then:cheer: time for u to create some ID's :winky: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I don't think so. She doesn't seem to be someone who can be a rubber stamp or can be controlled by others. Also' date=' I really don't think that the Cong workers will accept an "outsider" (Robert Vadra) without the Gandhi surname to rule the Party/Country if people from the Gandhi family are available.[/quote'] it wont be that easy to ignoe ambitious husband... how much trouble it is to change the surname :winky: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathmonger Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 What will be difficult? Duel nationality. he means imran coming into power. imran's party is a joke party where only supporters are college kids. i mean this guy has won a sum total of ONE seat in parliament and thinking of becoming PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 What will be difficult? Duel nationality. Imran coming to power. Unless he can manufacture some sort of coalition. But it is difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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