philcric Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 I'm slightly confused about the rules. 3 teams ended up on same points Pak with NRR of 0.44 Ind with NRR of 0.37 Ban with NRR of 0.02 In that group, each team won against one team and lost against the other. In that case, shouldn't NRR be the sole criteria and not head to head result for teams to qualify ? (India is 2nd in NRR) Assuming that the top team with the best NRR qualifies for the final first, and then it's one of the other teams (based on head to head result) which goes through .... then, didn't india have a chance to better the Pak NRR by defeating them in a few less overs, and hence be in the top position wrt NRR ?? After the above scenario, even if Ban had a big victory over SL topping the NRR, between Pak and Ind, Ind would have gone through because of head to head result or even NRR. To make long story short,, i think while India was playing Pakistan, they had a chance to go through to the final irrespective of Ban-SL result. All they had to do was win their game against Pak in a few less overs (probably around 2 overs). It's staggering that nobody has mentioned about this,, not the team management, not the commentators and from what i've seen not even us cricket followers. Somebody please correct me if i've got it all wrong !!
philcric Posted March 21, 2012 Author Posted March 21, 2012 To make it even simpler, who would go through to the final if the standings are like this .. 3 teams ended up on same points Ind with NRR of 0.42 Pak with NRR of 0.40 Ban with NRR of 0.02
mishra Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Bonus point is complete Chewt1yaap... I dont mind considering head to head record...
urbestfriend Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Pak went through because they got a bonus point against Srilanka! They had 9 points , 1 more than other two teams
urbestfriend Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Bonus point is complete Chewt1yaap... I dont mind considering head to head record... Agree, It should be solely based on run rate and head to head! Bonus point should be removed..
Crookbond Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 I'm slightly confused about the rules. 3 teams ended up on same points Pak with NRR of 0.44 Ind with NRR of 0.37 Ban with NRR of 0.02 In that group, each team won against one team and lost against the other. In that case, shouldn't NRR be the sole criteria and not head to head result for teams to qualify ? (India is 2nd in NRR) Assuming that the top team with the best NRR qualifies for the final first, and then it's one of the other teams (based on head to head result) which goes through .... then, didn't india have a chance to better the Pak NRR by defeating them in a few less overs, and hence be in the top position wrt NRR ?? After the above scenario, even if Ban had a big victory over SL topping the NRR, between Pak and Ind, Ind would have gone through because of head to head result or even NRR. To make long story short,, i think while India was playing Pakistan, they had a chance to go through to the final irrespective of Ban-SL result. All they had to do was win their game against Pak in a few less overs (probably around 2 overs). It's staggering that nobody has mentioned about this,, not the team management, not the commentators and from what i've seen not even us cricket followers. Somebody please correct me if i've got it all wrong !! Only two teams ended up with same points - Bangladesh and India http://www.espncricinfo.com/asia-cup-2012/engine/series/524504.html?view=pointstable If India would've wanted to go through irrespective of Bangladesh- Sri Lanka result, we needed to win against Pakistan with a bonus point (chase 330 inside 40 overs).
Adi_91 Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Only two teams ended up with same points - Bangladesh and India http://www.espncricinfo.com/asia-cup-2012/engine/series/524504.html?view=pointstable If India would've wanted to go through irrespective of Bangladesh- Sri Lanka result, we needed to win against Pakistan with a bonus point (chase 330 inside 40 overs). Yeah, but chasing 330 in or under 40 overs means RRR of 8.25.. :blink:
philcric Posted March 21, 2012 Author Posted March 21, 2012 OK ... now i see where i got it all wrong !! Pak won against SL with a bonus point ... useless feckers .... Lankans, not the paksters. Fair enough,, i guess Bang and Pak deserve to be in the final .. Hope Bangladesh wins it,, it'd be terrific to watch their joy and celebrations.
Adi_91 Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 OK ... now i see where i got it all wrong !! Pak won against SL with a bonus point ... useless feckers .... Lankans, not the paksters. Fair enough,, i guess Bang and Pak deserve to be in the final .. Hope Bangladesh wins it,, it'd be terrific to watch their joy and celebrations. Seriously, it is always good to see a new SC force coming up.:two_thumbs_up:
mishra Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 OK ... now i see where i got it all wrong !! Pak won against SL with a bonus point ... useless feckers .... Lankans, not the paksters. Fair enough,, i guess Bang and Pak India deserve to be in the final .. Hope Bangladesh wins it,, it'd be terrific to watch their joy and celebrations. Because our run rate is higher. We beat Pakis (head to head)... So India should be in finals Since point is same, Bangs should play in the final because of its their home turf. Chuck the head to head rule and put the home team/wildcard rule. This will attract more crowd too... Pakis are there purely because of some stupid rule...
Sidhoni Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Yeah' date=' but chasing 330 in or under 40 overs means RRR of 8.25.. :blink:[/quote'] We just chased 321 in 36.5 overs...
Magneto Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Bonus points are fine as long as they work in our favour :giggle: If we get screwed because of the bonus point rule, it's a big :P
SLICKR392 Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Screw the Lankans. Lost the match to bang bros and gave away BP to Pakis. Closed all our doors to the finals...
Crookbond Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Yeah' date=' but chasing 330 in or under 40 overs means RRR of 8.25.. :blink:[/quote'] Yes, Hobart refused to strike twice. :((
Adi_91 Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 We just chased 321 in 36.5 overs... Had a funny feeling after we won on Sunday that maybe we should have won with a bonus point. It has come to haunt us. :((
Adi_91 Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Yes' date=' Hobart refused to strike twice. :(([/quote'] Yes, that was a dream day for Indian cricket this year.
akshayxyz Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 We just chased 321 in 36.5 overs... You suggesting Kohli choked, when it mattered most. What can be more important than Asia Cup finals.
Crookbond Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 You suggesting Kohli choked' date=' when it mattered most. What can be more important than Asia Cup finals.[/quote'] Akshay-bhai, Kisi aur ka gussa kisi aur par?
mishra Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 Question was valid.. Why couldnt have we won in 40 overs? We very well knew that bonus point was needed? There were no unknowns in the chase.. Ball was coming on bat. Rohit Sharma and Virat together could have paced the inning accordingly. ??????
Old guy Posted March 21, 2012 Posted March 21, 2012 umm.. against htis bowling attack.. it was difficult more over it wasnt needed in cb series w/o bonus point we had no chance..so it was do or die.. so even if we lost there would ve been no difference ..remember we pulled it off once doesn ot mean we will do it again we could ve ended up throwing wickets away and in the end would ve lost even after 50 overs :cantstop:
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