express bowling Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 b kumar no height so no bounce' date=' short bowler must have 145+ pace to be good international bowler e.g. steyn,marshall,waqar,shoaib.[/quote'] And yet you guys are impressed by Junaid Khan who is very short and generally bowls 130 k to 140 k. He does not even skid the ball like Bhuvi.
panther Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 And yet you guys are impressed by Junaid Khan who is very short and generally bowls 130 k to 140 k. He does not even skid the ball like Bhuvi. Junaid is 6 foot and bowl 137k average, unlike bhuvi 130k average.
Hafeez Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 Junaid is 6 foot and bowl 137k average' date=' unlike bhuvi 130k average.[/quote'] Junaid Bowl,s at 142kph average remeber his performance in Johburg and in 4th Odi in Johburg in first spell he was 143kph Ave in 4th odi he was 141kph Ave Junaid vs India in cheenai in first spell he was 140kph Ave
Hafeez Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 And yet you guys are impressed by Junaid Khan who is very short and generally bowls 130 k to 140 k. He does not even skid the ball like Bhuvi. b.kumar can skid the bowl where junaid can swing the bowl Late
MCcricket Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 BK has the most ungainly action along with Dinda among Indian bowlers. I wonder he can still clock 135k plus. If he had a better action could certainly have been much better but he makes up for that with his ability to swing the ball. Rkt BK's action is not that bad, worst action I have seen is Unadkat and Mithun, his action is ok and reminds me of Hilfenhaus , he can just refine it a bit overall a very impressive bowler for me
express bowling Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 Junaid is 6 foot and bowl 137k average' date=' unlike bhuvi 130k average.[/quote'] Junaid looks around 5'9" or 5'10" max. You are forgetting your original point. "A pacer who is not tall needs to be 145+ to succeed in international cricket.". This was your statement. Junaid is neither tall nor 145+ by a margin. Also, Bhuvi is bowling 132 to 141/142 k now. Average around 136/137 k.
panther Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 Junaid looks around 5'9" or 5'10" max. You are forgetting your original point. "A pacer who is not tall needs to be 145+ to succeed in international cricket.". This was your statement. Junaid is neither tall nor 145+ by a margin. junaid is getting there 140+ in india and sa soon 145+.
panther Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 Junaid looks around 5'9" or 5'10" max. You are forgetting your original point. "A pacer who is not tall needs to be 145+ to succeed in international cricket.". This was your statement. Junaid is neither tall nor 145+ by a margin. Also, Bhuvi is bowling 132 to 141/142 k now. Average around 136/137 k. 1.85m is his height according to google but he has long leavers like kemar roach so he makes up for that not that 1.85m is short, bhuvi is like 1.78m that is short for a fast bowler.
Hafeez Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 Junaid looks around 5'9" or 5'10" max. You are forgetting your original point. "A pacer who is not tall needs to be 145+ to succeed in international cricket.". This was your statement. Junaid is neither tall nor 145+ by a margin. Also, Bhuvi is bowling 132 to 141/142 k now. Average around 136/137 k. if B.kumar had bowled 1 bowl at 141kph that does not mean,s he is 141kph his Average pace is 133kph Junaid khan has touched 147kph in Kolkata vs India Junaid khan has Same height as Wasim akam use to have Plus Junaid is left arm pacer
express bowling Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 Junaid Bowl,s at 142kph average remeber his performance in Johburg and in 4th Odi in Johburg in first spell he was 143kph Ave in 4th odi he was 141kph Ave Junaid vs India in cheenai in first spell he was 140kph Ave You must stop picking up the occasional quicker spells of Pakistani pacers and pass them off as their normal pace. Also, you often state the fastest pace of a Pakistani pacer as his average pace. Please differentiate between the two. Junaid Khan's average pace is generally 136 or 137 k as Panther stated.
Hafeez Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 junaid is getting there 140+ in india and sa soon 145+. i will be much better bowler in Champion Trophy" Junaid khan my height is big advantage but i has to add 5kph more pace in my bowling; Mohammad Irfan
Hafeez Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 You must stop picking up the occasional quicker spells of Pakistani pacers and pass them off as their normal pace. Also, you often state the fastest pace of a Pakistani pacer as his average pace. Please differentiate between the two. Junaid Khan's average pace is generally 136 or 137 k as Panther stated. ok i admit Junaid has Average pace around 137kph But still he is more faster and Taller than B.kumar
Hafeez Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 Ehsan Adil has low pace like B.kumar But Look at Adil height 6 foot 5 inch Mcagath-Pollock-Asif-Philander all those guys are Seam bowler,s where B.kumar is swing bowler like Parveen Kumar and Kulsakare
express bowling Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 1.85m is his height according to google but he has long leavers like kemar roach so he makes up for that not that 1.85m is short' date=' bhuvi is like 1.78m that is short for a fast bowler.[/quote'] Google often states wrong heights. According to google Umesh is 6'2". Actually he is between 5'11" to 6' max. Bhuvi must be about 5'10" or 5'11". Definitely short for a fast bowler. No arguments there. Tell me sincerely, does Junaid look tall to you compared to a fast bowler ?
Hafeez Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 bk and juned are same height' date='juned chucks if bk also starts to chuck he will be quicker than juned[/quote'] Junaid is faster than B.kumar Junaid is taller than B.kumar Junaid is seam bowler B.kumar is swing bowler
express bowling Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 if B.kumar had bowled 1 bowl at 141kph that does not mean,s he is 141kph his Average pace is 133kph Junaid khan has touched 147kph in Kolkata vs India Junaid khan has Same height as Wasim akam use to have Plus Junaid is left arm pacer Bhuvi has touched 141 to 142 k in around 4 matches. That being said, that definitely does not make him a 141 k bowler. He has to do this match after match. Where have I said that he is a 141 k bowler ? I have just expressed happiness that he is showing the inclination to add pace. Wasim was 6'2". Junaid is nowhere near him in height. Don't fool yourself.
express bowling Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 Junaid is faster than B.kumar Junaid is taller than B.kumar Junaid is seam bowler B.kumar is swing bowler Junaid is about the same height as Bhuvi. Both can seam as well as swing the ball. You are actually demeaning Junaid by calling him just a seam bowler. He is nether fast nor bouncy. Movement and control are his biggest pluses. You are actually demeaning his actual strengths. Junaid has a slightly quicker release speed than Bhuvi but as Bhuvi skids the ball, the batsmen perhaps face very similar paces.
kubrickian Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 Junaid failed miserably in South Africa in favorable conditions and so did Irfan and the rest of Pak bowlers. They were treated like school level bowlers by SA and they couldnt pick wickets to save their lives. Even Robyn Peterson was more effective than them in the test series. First see how B Kumar bowls in SA before you pass judgment on who is better. Not just empty retarded rhetoric about how phaaaasssht they are, how tall they are and blah, blah, blah.
Texan Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 Suyal's 2nd over 137.6 140.9 141.1 138 140.9 140.9 Hit Bravo in the midriff with his 5th ball Got his wicket with the last ball. Looked pretty decent.
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