Blackout_ Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 If Tendulkar had the luxury of Playing exclusively against bowling attacks as lethal as Bangladesh he would also have avged 100 in 52 tests without use of Technology. :nice: I'm not even going to bother arguing with one who cannot maintain any sort of objectivity. I don't particularly enjoy arguing with those who can't see beyond their rose-tinted glasses.
Spiderguy252 Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 say A. WI pace quartet ( Marshall,Roberts,Garner,Holding) or B. Pollock, Donald, Steyn. A. 44.83 B. 39.61
yoda Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 If Tendulkar had the luxury of Playing exclusively against bowling attacks as lethal as Bangladesh he would also have avged 100 in 52 tests without use of Technology. :nice: But remember, if he was playing during Bradman's time against the same bowling he did, he would have a technique somewhat similar to those in the videos you take pleasure laughing at. Are you still sure, he will average in the 100s then? :winky:
Dravid_TheWall Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 If Tendulkar had the luxury of Playing exclusively against bowling attacks as lethal as Bangladesh he would also have avged 100 in 52 tests without use of Technology. :nice: :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Good joke. This Tindu can't even play under pressure and you are talking of him averaging 100 when no one else did bar Bradman. Even Lara would be no where near, let alone Tindu.
Dravid_TheWall Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 ^DTW Tindu matlab kya hai ? Not sure how it came about. Derogatory variation on tendu I think. :cantstop:
~ Miss Warner ~ Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Bradman's average of 99 in that era is probably equal to a 200 average these days... He had to play on pitches that were minefields compared to the luxuriously prepared dead flat tarmacs that the current batsman get to enjoy. They didn't even cover the pitches at night or in wet weather in Bradman's era, and hairline cracks that batsman complain about today could have swallowed up a small child in Bradman's era... The real question is what would Tendulkar average in the early 1900's? Probably around 20.
Sehwag1830 Posted April 18, 2012 Author Posted April 18, 2012 Bradman's average of 99 in that era is probably equal to a 200 average these days... He had to play on pitches that were minefields compared to the luxuriously prepared dead flat tarmacs that the current batsman get to enjoy. They didn't even cover the pitches at night or in wet weather in Bradman's era, and hairline cracks that batsman complain about today could have swallowed up a small child in Bradman's era... The real question is what would Tendulkar average in the early 1900's? Probably around 20. :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Bradman and Warne represents everything that is wrong with Cricket. None of them performed against the best players of Cricket yet they are rated so highly.
maniac Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Brad man has no proven credentials on dustbowls of SC,Even if some pundits prove he would demolish Ind,Pak,SL spinners in these conditions,he has never played against rampaging fast bowling attacks like WI of 70's,80's. Since the whole point is about India...In australia I would say about 60-70...In SC between 15-20
fuub Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 If Tendulkar had the luxury of Playing exclusively against bowling attacks as lethal as Bangladesh he would also have avged 100 in 52 tests without use of Technology. :nice: LOL!!! he doesn't average anything like that from his first class record and many of those runs were against indian domestic bowlers, worse than bangladesh. In fact tendulkar never managed above 250 runs from first class.
Raghav_12 Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 LOL!!! he doesn't average anything like that from his first class record and many of those runs were against indian domestic bowlers, worse than bangladesh. In fact tendulkar never managed above 250 runs from first class. Records against First Class or similar standard bowlers doesn't prove anything at all. There have been enough players in India who have comparable or even better FC records then Sachin and Dravid. But they were found wanting when faced quality international bowling. It is fallacy to believe that anybody who performs relatively well against sub-standard bowling would also be able to perfom relatively well against quality bowling. And Bradman's comparison with modern day batsmen is based very much on this fallacy.
akshayxyz Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Bradman's average of 99 in that era is probably equal to a 200 average these days... He had to play on pitches that were minefields compared to the luxuriously prepared dead flat tarmacs that the current batsman get to enjoy. They didn't even cover the pitches at night or in wet weather in Bradman's era, and hairline cracks that batsman complain about today could have swallowed up a small child in Bradman's era... The real question is what would Tendulkar average in the early 1900's? Probably around 20. :haha: Why stop at 200, after adjusting for inflation - the figure should increase every year.
rkt.india Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Records against First Class or similar standard bowlers doesn't prove anything at all. There have been enough players in India who have comparable or even better FC records then Sachin and Dravid. But they were found wanting when faced quality international bowling. It is fallacy to believe that anybody who performs relatively well against sub-standard bowling would also be able to perfom relatively well against quality bowling. And Bradman's comparison with modern day batsmen is based very much on this fallacy. Good post.
yoda Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Why because your mind says so ? Why don't you show me some big names in cricket from the 80s who had a Technique similar to Tendulkar and how Tendulkar had all the time and means to get a video copy ( from where ? lol ) and alter his natural technique ( which you are certain in your mind that it would have been like the technique in amateur yrs ? Keep in mind that he grew up honing his skills without Helmet on the maidans of Mumbai. Cue now for you to either : 1. Change to a different topic or 2. Make some peurile one-liner comment or 3. Just simply run away Are you saying if Tendulkar had played in the Bradman era, his technique would have been the same as what it is in the 1990s and 2000s? if so, you are delusional. What is great about Bradman is that he beat up on mediocre bowling but with the prevalent technique of the times. So it evens things out regarding quality of bowling faced. I presume this doesn't make sense to you either.
Tapioca Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 He had to play on pitches that were minefields compared to the luxuriously prepared dead flat tarmacs that the current batsman get to enjoy. They didn't even cover the pitches at night or in wet weather in Bradman's era, and hairline cracks that batsman complain about today could have swallowed up a small child in Bradman's era... The point about sticky wickets is a little exaggerated in Bradman's case. Of the 80 innings that he played, around six or seven were in stickies (his debut, Lord's 1934, Brisbane 1936/37 etc) and he did not come out of them well. The wickets of the 1930s were mostly very good for batting. The argument usually said in his defense is that knowing that most of his cricket will be played on true wickets of Australia, Bradman adapted his technique for good wickets. He "could have" changed it to suit stickies but that would have interfered with his strokeplay on good wickets. Neither Bradman nor Hammond would come near the top of bad-wicket players of the time. That would probably be Jack Hobbs followed by Herbert Sutcliffe and possibly George Headley.
dial_100 Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 So I am still not able to understand whats the fuss about. I am not really able to imangine which skill(s), if Don had played today, would have been almost twice as better than SRT. Technique Footwork Timing Placement Temperament Fitness Ability to Handle the pressure. Just for argument sake, if we say the last one, then SRT has made 18K in ODI alone. How is it possible to make it with half the skill that is needed in the international cricket. To be honest, if Don was playing in this era, he would be caught Jonty B Alan Donald dozen times. With Jonty, Dilshan, Ponting, Mark Waugh, Azhar and many more, it is impossible to play every single stroke along the ground with 140K+ bowling. These guys are amazing in the field. If it can be convinced to SRT fans how Don could have double the skills that SRT has, then I am sure we will all accept it.
The Outsider Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 ^ The ability to play long innings - Tendulkar's highest First Class score is not even 250 runs. His maiden First Class double hundred came 11 years after his First Class debut - his maiden test double hundred took even longer. Think of Bradman as someone with the consistency of Tendulkar and the ability of Lara to knock off big scores.
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