rkt.india Posted May 11, 2012 Author Posted May 11, 2012 I wasn't drawing a direct comparison between Steyn and Ishant. In any case, if Steyn could change I'm sure Ishant can as well. Btw, the highlighted is the real reason of his limited success (and there's no prizes for thinking why he did well in the West Indies on similar slow wickets). The back of the length line works well in sub-continent conditions. In places like England, Australia you need to pitch the ball up - simple as that - and give it the best chance to do something. You may get wickets once in a while bowling back of a length (and may also contain runs as the spell at MCG shows) but it ain't going to help you pick wickets IMO. :agree:
Crookbond Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 see awana's bowling stats in first class cricket u have to rememebr he is getting old bowl here so not much swing and still doing fine one matches were it swung he did swing the ball he actually has better control then yadav...and right now is much better then shami! I am for Awana and as I get from your post ... you are too. Where's the confusion? :hmmmm2:
Crookbond Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 We've been hoping the same with him for about 5 years now. :headshake: He still has time. You can hope for another 2-3 years as he made his debut at 18.
Old guy Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 I am for Awana and as I get from your post ... you are too. Where's the confusion? :hmmmm2: u said ur not convinced abt him being succesfull in tests i think he can move hte bowl both ways with pretty good control and pace he will do fine but ya u cant count him as strike bowler if he went to australia he would ve done better then ishant i can promise u that :P
MCcricket Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 I have seen Shami bowl a bit and his ability to make the ball talk , seam , swing at pace, makes him special, bowlers like him are most successful.How good would it be to have Sreesanth in our team when bowling at his fastest and best like SA , I have seen both Awana and Shami bowl, somehow personally I would look at Shami more for test, AWANA, DINDA, Abu nechim more for shorter version .
Malcolm Merlyn Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Fearsome Foursome.......the world is shaking..... Sent from my GT-I9103 using Tapatalk 2
Crookbond Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 u said ur not convinced abt him being succesfull in tests i think he can move hte bowl both ways with pretty good control and pace he will do fine but ya u cant count him as strike bowler if he went to australia he would ve done better then ishant i can promise u that :P BC, It was not me but McCricket who said that. Bimaari aankhon mein pahunch gayi hai lagta hai.
Old guy Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 BC' date=' It was not me but McCricket who said that. Bimaari aankhon mein pahunch gayi hai lagta hai. [/quote'] bc i need sleep but my sister has kept me awake she wants to study stats :wall: just how card can correlation be ? :mad: sorry ! :((
rkt.india Posted May 11, 2012 Author Posted May 11, 2012 Fearsome Foursome.......the world is shaking..... Sent from my GT-I9103 using Tapatalk 2 :agree:
MCcricket Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Awana is pretty similar to Dammika Prasad , pace, built, action, both bowl similarly and kinda similar bowlers, also can seam and swing a bit, how successful has he been? I would love to be proven wrong, either it is too early, I am not convinced of him in test. Let him get a decent run in ODI'S, he does not have out and out pace, also he is on the shorter side, so he will need a big heart, aggression, has to make the ball talk, Aaron, Ishant, Umesh are FAST and still with their skills finding their feet, I would love to see Suyal, Shami, IN THIS IPL.
Old guy Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Awana is pretty similar to Dammika Prasad ' date=' pace, built, action, both bowl similarly and kinda similar bowlers, also can seam and swing a bit, how successful has he been? I would love to be proven wrong, either it is too early, I am not convinced of him in test. Let him get a decent run in ODI'S, he does not have out and out pace, also he is on the shorter side, so he will need a big heart, aggression, has to make the ball talk, Aaron, Ishant, Umesh are FAST and still with their skills finding their feet, I would love to see Suyal, Shami, IN THIS IPL.[/quote'] thing is he isnt dhamika prasad and i have seen him move ball bounce ball from good length..how can u jsut compare him to some one and then be sure he will end up like him ? and comparson is only abt built not technical aspect
MCcricket Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 thing is he isnt dhamika prasad and i have seen him move ball bounce ball from good length..how can u jsut compare him to some one and then be sure he will end up like him ? and comparson is only abt built not technical aspect Well all I am saying his, he should be given a run in ODI'S, maybe A TOURS, bowlers can be compared as being in a similar mould, similar action, pace, physique, skills as far as seaming, swinging the ball,but certainly if Unadkat, PK, VK, Mithun were ever in the frame for test's , this guy is more qualified then them, Seen some players raise their game when playing for their country, even Ishant wasn't an outstanding talent when he debuted for India,we will wait and see, but with Dhoni , Cheeka at the helm we wont see bowlers but trundlers lol.
King Tendulkar Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 But' date=' the good thing with Ishant is he has age on his side. Dale Steyn when he came on the scene wasn't very good at picking wickets either - just a nice kid with a zip. He turned it around in 2006. I'm still not given up on Ishant. I still think he can turn things around.[/quote'] Agree
Old guy Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Well all I am saying his' date=' he should be given a run in ODI'S, maybe A TOURS, bowlers can be compared as being in a similar mould, similar action, pace, physique, skills as far as seaming, swinging the ball,but certainly if Unadkat, PK, VK, Mithun were ever in the frame for test's , this guy is more qualified then them, Seen some players raise their game when playing for their country, even Ishant wasn't an outstanding talent when he debuted for India,we will wait and see, but with Dhoni , Cheeka at the helm we wont see bowlers but trundlers lol.[/quote'] allright :D i clearly see his potential though def good enough for odis in tests we are gonna play only 2 seamers nayway so he is not gonna get change anytime soon
BERGKAMP Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 the only way they will all get to play together is if dhoni steps down from captaincy in tests at least. he much prefers catching 125k trundles than 145k rockets.
Sidhoni Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Every time Dhoni has played 4 seamers, he has had to suffer with slow-over rates. And it has been rare when 4 fast bowlers are played. So, I doubt if they will be played together.
diga Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 I think you should have as varied attack as possible.. Yadav/Aaaron/Awana are all similar kind of bowlers. One dimensional attack may not succeed on a flat track
Crookbond Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 I think you should have as varied attack as possible.. Yadav/Aaaron/Awana are all similar kind of bowlers. One dimensional attack may not succeed on a flat track :facepalm:
rkt.india Posted May 11, 2012 Author Posted May 11, 2012 Author isn't saying they all 4 should play together in a match. He is saying these 4 should form our pace attack as these are potentially the best four fast bowlers in our country right now. Four fast bowlers playing together is a rarity.
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