The Narendra Modi thread

[Haarkarjeetgaye]

you tell me? :winky:

well wish I could do a referendum, but I will purely blame it on Congress :--D

[ganeshran]

ever wondered why Muslim vote will not go to Modi but Sikhs Jains Budhdhists and to some effect Christian vote will still go. Cant be because of Hindutva.

I don't know how Sikh, Jain, Buddhist communities are leaning, but Christian vote will definitely go against Modi, maybe not wholesale but the majority will surely vote against Modi/BJP/RSS. RSS has had skirmishes with Christians before, especially in Orissa. It is not a major discussion point right now because muslims are getting the limelight in the backdrop of the Gujarat riots.

[ravishingravi]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5BMvajNgWV0 One of the most hilarious interviews you ll ever see. Arnab interviewing raj Thackeray.

[ravishingravi]

I don't know how Sikh, Jain, Buddhist communities are leaning, but Christian vote will definitely go against Modi, maybe not wholesale but the majority will surely vote against Modi/BJP/RSS. RSS has had skirmishes with Christians before, especially in Orissa. It is not a major discussion point right now because muslims are getting the limelight in the backdrop of the Gujarat riots.

What about hindutva rising element ? What % of Hindu voters will vote for him based on hindutva ? And where we're they when hindutva idol was fighting last election ?

[ganeshran]

sure lets do. how do we decide the parameters for this yardstick?

GDP growth, Corruption in the government Social spending for upliftment of economically weaker sections of society Development of UP and Bihar

[ganeshran]

What about hindutva rising element ? What % of Hindu voters will vote for him based on hindutva ? And where we're they when hindutva idol was fighting last election ?

I said this before, if you really think there is no significant polarization of Hindu votes this time around and voters are purely voting on Modi's development track record, then it is pointless to even continue this discussion. Advani was the original Hindutva symbol, but 2009 was not 1992 and Advani's firebrand image had toned down because of his deference to Atalji in deciding the NDA agenda. Modi on the other hand has both Hindutva and anti incumbency propelling him this time.

[Sachin=GOD]

that is flawed assumption my friend. There will be blind supporters but they are not in majority. opinionated yes but not blind.

In the last few months I have interacted with a lot of Modi supporters and my personal experience has been that a majority of them are blind bhakts who will believe anything he says. This trend is most visible on twitter/facebook these days - just go and check.

[asterix]

In the last few months I have interacted with a lot of Modi supporters and my personal experience has been that a majority of them are blind bhakts who will believe anything he says. This trend is most visible on twitter/facebook these days - just go and check.

Yaar, Modi is popular, you can't deny it. Tell me any other alternative in BJP who would've lead this campaign... Whether people have become blind bhakts or not, they don't have any other choice to get rid of Congress and the Dynasty... They can't afford not to support Modi as he could be best equipped to counter the Congress dirty tricks department... The focus should be to form a NDA govt. And try eliminate the Congress and Gandhis-Vadras...

[urbestfriend]

Apparently Modi doesn't want to act against Vadra's land deals. They wont do vindictive politics whatever that mean. If thats the case, why take political mileage of this? Is it ok to let go the corruption of previous regime at the cost of exchequer ?

[asterix]

Apparently Modi doesn't want to act against Vadra's land deals. They wont do vindictive politics whatever that mean. If thats the case' date=' why take political mileage of this? Is it ok to let go the corruption of previous regime at the cost of exchequer ?[/quote'] The games in politics is not that simple... There no harm in playing dirty tricks to counter Congress dirty tricks... No one can deny that Congress can play any dirty tricks till the end... Example the naming of New Navy Chief...

[Haarkarjeetgaye]

GDP growth, Corruption in the government Social spending for upliftment of economically weaker sections of society Development of UP and Bihar

fair enough. we talk on this after 5 years if Modi or BJP make it there and stay for 5 years :two_thumbs_up:

[Sachin=GOD]

Yaar' date= Modi is popular, you can't deny it. Tell me any other alternative in BJP who would've lead this campaign... Whether people have become blind bhakts or not, they don't have any other choice to get rid of Congress and the Dynasty... They can't afford not to support Modi as he could be best equipped to counter the Congress dirty tricks department... The focus should be to form a NDA govt. And try eliminate the Congress and Gandhis-Vadras...

I'm not denying that. But many other leaders of other parties are also popular and in the past also we have seen many popular leaders - I don't remember those leaders having such large number of blind bhakts who will believe anything said by the leaders.

[asterix]

I'm not denying that. But many other leaders of other parties are also popular and in the past also we have seen many popular leaders - I don't remember those leaders having such large number of blind bhakts who will believe anything said by the leaders.

Tell me the names of those popular leaders please... The amount of criticism or focus Modi has faced ( justified or not), no other leader has faced, on a sustained period of time. He himself has become brazen because of this and so are his followers... They don't have any other options as to fight sustained assaults you have to become blind bhakts, else you won't survive...

[scorpio90]

Yashwant Deshmukh ‏@cvoter 1h Latest TAM ratings have revealed that Aap Ki Adalat with Modi became most watched show of all times in history of News Channels in India.

[urbestfriend]

The games in politics is not that simple... There no harm in playing dirty tricks to counter Congress dirty tricks... No one can deny that Congress can play any dirty tricks till the end... Example the naming of New Navy Chief...

It raises doubt about possible backroom deals that happen between these two parties. Its like I Dont Scratch Your Back And You Dont Scratch Mine. I am sure Vadra wont be touched even if Modi comes to power..At the best they will file an FIR and drag the case for years and use it as a blackmailing tool for some favours from congress. Same thing happening in Karnataka. Congress used illegal mining report submitted by Santosh Hegde of 16000 crores mining scam to its full advantage when it was in opposition. But when in power, it has not acted on the report and conspicuously silent. Similarly Arun Jaitley threatens to disclose illegal affairs of Congress Netas to stop commenting on Modi's marriage and suddenly congress is silent..Why threaten and use it for blackmail? Let the truth come out.

[dial_100]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5BMvajNgWV0 One of the most hilarious interviews you ll ever see. Arnab interviewing raj Thackeray.

:haha: :haha: "Tum 10th standard se montessori ja rahe ho" :icflove: They are made for each other. Trolling at best.

[Sachin=GOD]

PS, some clarifications Narendra Modiji on your latest interview

In an interview on Wednesday to news agency ANI, Narendra Modi, the man touted to be India’s next prime minister took some rather straight questions with never before seen confidence. He was at ease, never through the interview did he pause to think, to contemplate before answering questions in what is being seen as one of his most candid interviews in recent times. He smiled, acknowledged certain points and praised ANI several times through the interview. He asked them to clear certain misconceptions that had been prevalent in the media about him, and to compile news reports about him which would reveal the truth about the inclusive work he had done on development. There was no wiping of sweat or taking sips of water like he last did with well known TV anchor Karan Thapar’s interview. In an uncharacteristically calm response on his decision to refuse to speak to the media and clarify his stand on the 2002 riots, Modi remarked, “Check the press conferences, my media interviews to print and TV journalists. I was not silent, I answered every top journalist in the country from 2002-2007, to every question, but noticed there was “no effort to find or understand the truth”. As somebody who has had a chance to work in Gujarat in 2002, and cover politics of the state since 2005, and investigate some of the most crucial criminal cases, Narendra Modi left me with more questions than answers. As a citizen of this country who will be casting her vote to usher in an inclusive development oriented government, Modi’s responses were unconvincing. I might not get an audience with the prime ministerial candidate from the principal opposition party of the country anytime soon. So in the interest of those who share my sentiments, I would like to seek some clarifications from Modiji on his recent interviews: 1.) Mr Modi, you have spoken of your tremendous respect for journalists and wanted to thank them for keeping you in check and being accountable. You said you were indebted to the tremendous service that the media had done to the country by praising and critiquing your work. But sir, this takes me to the after-effects my journalist friends and I in Gujarat have faced until recently. In July 2008, the Supreme Court severely reprimanded your government in Gujarat for slapping a sedition charge against senior journalist and sociologist Ashis Nandy. It protected Nandy from being arrested by the Gujarat Police after he moved the Supreme Court apprehending his arrest. Nandy was slapped with criminal charges for allegedly promoting enmity between groups in society through his analytical article on the 2007 Gujarat poll outcome. The Supreme Court remarked, “Gujarat is the state of Mahatma Gandhi and it’s very strange that the state government is unable to take any criticism.” In 2012, the Gujarat High Court quashed five sedition cases filed against the Times Of India’s Ahmedabad edition in June 2008 by the then police commissioner OP Mathur. The court said there was no case for even defamation. The cases had been filed after a series of investigative reports had exposed Mathur’s alleged dubious background and questioned if Ahmedabad was safe in his hands as police commissioner. The TOI had said your (Modi’s) government, particularly the then minister of state for home Amit Shah, rewarded Mathur for botching up the Sohrabuddin fake encounter probe. The Gujarat home department sought the arrest of the resident editor and the TOI correspondent in June 2008 and carried an internal investigation. However, it was only when the TOI moved the Gujarat High Court to seek anticipatory bail did the High Court direct the government to halt the investigation. Let me share with you a personal experience of reporting from the state. In June 2010, I was threatened by several BJP leaders (documented in Tehelka), and a bag stashed with money was couriered to my hotel to get me implicated in a criminal case right after I published Amit Shah’s call records in the Tulsi Prajapati fake encounter case which led to his arrest. This, right after I had published investigative articles with internal documents on the involvement of your (Narendra Modi’s) office. Text messages were sent to my phone, suggesting that my location was known. Mr Modi, you might want to answer, if this was the treatment meted out to journalists in your state, what would be your assurance to journalists should they write against you once you became the prime minister of the country? You further add, Modiji, that your statements in the media are twisted not by journalists but by news traders. Most of us from the fraternity, Modiji, have felt let down in the past few months by the diktats of some news publication/channel owners who claim to be acting at your behest. These owners have told us point blank that no articles or news stories critiquing you will be published. A prominent news channel funded by businessmen allegedly close to you has also given an ultimatum to its news anchors. I’m assuming these owners are the types you call news traders. It would be reassuring if you were to send out a message to the news media, for there is an apprehension that your statement on ‘news traders’ could be mistakenly used against those who have been working tirelessly for justice and have been at the receiving end of these business houses 2.) You make a very significant statement, sir, on weeding out the criminal elements from polity and make a case for fast-track courts which would announce their judgements in the span of one year. You also speak on women empowerment when the anchor asks you about a Congress-led allegation on surveillance. In your interview to news agencies and channels, you make no reference on the stalking scandal in which your ex-home minister and now in-charge of Uttar Pradesh Amit Shah is involved. The allegation, sir, was not a Congress discovered case but that published by senior journalists. The case in concern is about the tapes in which your Home minister Amit Shah is heard talking to one of your top cops GL Singhal to keep a watch on a woman, her movements and give a report of the same to you. Sir, when civilians are subjected to stalking using the state machinery, women in this country feel highly unsafe and worry for their security. We women are also concerned about our safety should you come into power and should Amit Shah be given such blatant power to misuse the state and national machinery like the Intelligence services to stalk civilians, journalists no less, and activists who have been crusading for justice. Your minister Amit Shah, who was asked by the Election Commission recently, sir, to give an explanation on his comments in Muzaffarnagar, has gone behind bars when his call records and other evidence including footage from a sting operation was submitted to the Supreme Court for allegedly carrying out a fake encounter. We do understand, sir, that you have made your stand clear when you began your election rally in 2007 in Ahmedabad asking the audience what they would want your government to do with the likes of a Sohrbuddin (who was killed in a fake encounter). You have, over a period of time, developed amnesia, sir, when you refuse to talk of Kauserbi, Sohrbuddin’s wife who was raped, sedated and killed by your officers according to the CBI chargesheet. The Supreme Court has taken cognisance, sir, and accepted the chargesheet not just in this but five other fake encounters. However, the man who was at the helm of affairs as home minister, Amit Shah, at whose behest the chargesheet says the encounters were carried out, is now at the helm of affairs. I understand, sir, that when you talk of fast track courts, Shah will be at the top of the list. Also, sir, we as citizens of this country were a bit perplexed when you spoke about weeding out criminal machinery and not being vindictive. Because many of your top officers, Kuldip Sharma, Rahul Sharma, and Rajnish Rai, have been refused promotions and have been implicated in cases just because they dared to speak against your government in Gujarat and acted on evidence that came their way. 3.) You, sir, made a very valid point about minority appeasement. This country has seen mainstream political parties like the Congress, the Samajwadi Party (SP), and so on use Muslims, Sikhs and Christians as vote banks. Many fact-finding reports and surveys see the light of the day just before elections. However, sir, at one point in the interview you tell us that you refuse to wear a Muslim skullcap because you believe in practicing your faith and respecting that of others. I do understand, sir, you are a practicing Hindu who believes in culture and Hindu traditions, and you imply, sir, that by wearing the Muslim cap you disrespect your religion and culture. Two stray thoughts that come to my mind as I hear your statement: a.) Your seniors and colleagues in the party Atal Bihari Vajpayee and Rajnath Singh have attended iftaar parties and worn skullcaps. Where they lesser Hindus?, and b.) Sikhs are not Hindus, sir, Sikhism is an altogether different faith. So, if by wearing a Muslim cap you would resort to appeasement, would it not be appeasement of the Sikhs when you wear a turban? I have many more questions in my head, sir, but I understand you are busy with your campaign and would not have the time to go through a long list. PS The moment this article is printed Mr Modi, those who claim to be your followers will make misogynist and communal remarks against me, and they will do so in your name. They will tell me that I will be thrown out of the country post May 16. You follow most of them, sir, and all these Twitter handles follow you. I sincerely hope you will ask them to maintain civility in discourse.

http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/standpoint-ps-some-clarifications-narendra-modiji-on-your-latest-interview-1979363

[asterix]

It raises doubt about possible backroom deals that happen between these two parties. Its like I Dont Scratch Your Back And You Dont Scratch Mine. I am sure Vadra wont be touched even if Modi comes to power..At the best they will file an FIR and drag the case for years and use it as a blackmailing tool for some favours from congress. Same thing happening in Karnataka. Congress used illegal mining report submitted by Santosh Hegde of 16000 crores mining scam to its full advantage when it was in opposition. But when in power, it has not acted on the report and conspicuously silent. Similarly Arun Jaitley threatens to disclose illegal affairs of Congress Netas to stop commenting on Modi's marriage and suddenly congress is silent..Why threaten and use it for blackmail? Let the truth come out.

That has to be seen after he comes to power... What's the point speculating about? If he fails, he'll lose the next elections... What is the problem?

[vayuu1]

you tell me? :winky:

Because they consider him as leader of Hindu ' s not only because of gujrat riots,but also because of a perception that he is the leader of Hindu 's of india and is anti muslim sent from dil se

[asterix]

^ Wrong thread. Please post it in General Elections thread with source links...