Old guy Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 ^ yes exactly ....wonder why we dont give him enough credit.. he is wonderful finisher in odis we will see his value after he goes
Sehwag1830 Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Dhoni? nah, not yet. Its definitely bevan without question. Dhoni may be among the top 5 but not the best yet. And I dont think some1 like pollard can ever be a good finisher. Pollard only can hit the ball hard, he doesnt have the ability to get runs out of unplayable deliveries and has some serious problem against short pitch bowling Mathews is still far from being labelled as the next BEVAN Lol what ? He was MoM in WC final , which Bevan can't boast of . Neither was Bevan as destructive as Dhoni in first half of the innings. Dhoni has a clear edge over Bevan.
Sidhoni Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Dhoni? nah, not yet. Its definitely bevan without question. Dhoni may be among the top 5 but not the best yet. Bevan did not possess the ability to clear the boundary at will which MSD has. Bevan won matches batting with the tailenders when the asking rate was not much but wkts left were a problem. If 80 runs are needed in last 10 overs, the world's best finisher should finish things off easily. But I do not think Bevan would be able to do it as easily as Dhoni does.
Crookbond Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Ian Chappell says he would pick Dhoni over Bevan for the same above reason.
Ultimate_Game Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 IMO Dhoni > Bevan coz Dhoni can play 2 roles comfortably - 1. guide his team to the finish line by keeping his wkt intact by curbing risky strokes a la Bevan, and 2. hit big if the situation demands it. Bevan was adept at 1 but not the 2nd. Bevan was good at a time when the scores were generally lower - in the 220-250 range, but don't think his game was built to chase high scores we see every other game in 280-320 range. To me Dhoni is Bevan 2.0 with his ability to keep a cool head and also hit out if needed.
thongale Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Dhoni is much more comparable to Hussey. I think Hussey is a better batsman than Dhoni, but the keeping abilities of Dhoni nails the fact him as a better player. Mathews is still far from being labelled as the next BEVAN Mathews has heired this finisher position because Sl don't have finishers. If Kusal Janith and Angelo Perera comes through (who are big hitters), Mathews will move up the order. He is more Kholi esque player than Bevan esque player.
Executioner Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Bevan did not possess the ability to clear the boundary at will which MSD has. Bevan won matches batting with the tailenders when the asking rate was not much but wkts left were a problem. If 80 runs are needed in last 10 overs' date=' the world's best finisher should finish things off easily. But I do not think Bevan would be able to do it as easily as Dhoni does.[/quote'] Back in those sixes werent as easy to come by and nowadays even bhajji can score healthy runs in the death overs. But at the time Bevan was a master finisher, something Dhoni has also done countless times. Seeing both of them, I feel that Bevan is that extra bit better than Dhoni but dhoni is stil one of the best :two_thumbs_up:
vvvslaxman Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Back in those sixes werent as easy to come by and nowadays even bhajji can score healthy runs in the death overs. But at the time Bevan was a master finisher' date=' something Dhoni has also done countless times. Seeing both of them, I feel that Bevan is that extra bit better than Dhoni but dhoni is stil one of the best :two_thumbs_up:[/quote'] What in "those days". He didn't play in 1970s. His last ODI was in 2004. Dhoni made debut in 2004. There is not much of a generation gap. Anyway while chasing in winning matches he averages 86. (Bevan). But his strike rate was wmere 66. that is below par even if you think he played in a whole new era. During his time he probably was the best. But nowadays guys like Dhoni, Yuvraj, do a fabulous job.
vvvslaxman Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 In successful run chases Dhoni 63 matches 1997 runs 105.10 average 90.32 strike rate 2 centuries 14 fifties Bevan 75 matches 1725 runs 86.25 average 66.42 strike rate 3 centuries 13 fifties
vvvslaxman Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Anyway.. Matthews has a long way to go to catch up with other great finishers. He is the best SL got.
jaypatel33 Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Anyway.. Matthews has a long way to go to catch up with other great finishers. He is the best SL got.
MIMI Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 He has proved to be great finisher for SL.At a young age he is showing so much maturity.SL has found someone similar to MSD atleast for sometime.But he has lot more pressure matches ahead
audioman Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Along with Chandimal, Mathews will become the backbone of SL's next decade in cricket. Excellent temperament shown by both so far. I am surprised to see SL take this long to make Mathews captain, he will make an excellent on I think.
Old guy Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 In successful run chases Dhoni 63 matches 1997 runs 105.10 average 90.32 strike rate 2 centuries 14 fifties Bevan 75 matches 1725 runs 86.25 average 66.42 strike rate 3 centuries 13 fifties now is bevan really the best? :hmmm:
Manny_Pacquiao Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 . I dare say potentially as good a finisher as Bevan. . :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: kahan kahan se yeh namune aate hain yaar
Yoda-esque Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 Mathews is nowhere in the league of Bevan or Dhoni...He cannot rotate the strike;either goes boom boom or tuk tuk. I would call him a poor man's Misbah
thongale Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 Mathews is nowhere in the league of Bevan or Dhoni...He cannot rotate the strike;either goes boom boom or tuk tuk. I would call him a poor man's MisbahODi standards must have gone down hill a lot then. We are looking at a player who could walk in to any ODI side in the world to bat at #7.
Yoda-esque Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 ODi standards must have gone down hill a lot then. We are looking at a player who could walk in to any ODI side in the world to bat at #7. Perhaps..But Misbah actually has a better average .He also bats at 5 or 6 And Angelo bats at around 6 or 7 Considering that the Pak batting is a big :fail:, Misbah is a better bat. Misbah 103 42.15 74.24 Angelo 76 34.15 83.35 And for sure he wouldnt walk into the Indian side to bat at number 7 :)
Sir john Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 Long road ahead for mathew. he is performing very well nowdays.
Sidhoni Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 In successful run chases Dhoni 63 matches 1997 runs 105.10 average 90.32 strike rate 2 centuries 14 fifties Bevan 75 matches 1725 runs 86.25 average 66.42 strike rate 3 centuries 13 fifties TFS.End of discussion. Anyways this was not the right thread.
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