Kerala Express Watch Thread

[maniac]

All it says that someone with a poor First Class record will eventually have a similar Test record. The poor FC record occurs due to inconsistent fitness or performance and that will usually become apparent over a Test career but sometimes not over the first few matches. 35 off his 87 Test wickets were taken in his first 7 Tests. With the adrenaline flowing, someone can perform out of their shoes (or perhaps be in a short-term period of good form). Its an unscientific statement, but I don't think an unreasonable one. However, the best way to see how someone will perform over a long Test career is their career First Class record and record over approximately the last 3 seasons. The FC average is most telling of how a bowler will perform in Tests in home conditions, such as Philander. Sreesanth's home record illustrates this, with 31 wickets at 39.54.

Vinay Kumar has a terrific FC record average of 24 and I am no blind Vinny hater as I think he is decent in Loi'S but in helpful conditions I would take Sree over Vinay anyday Sreeshanth has been very good in helpful conditions where as Vinay looked like a deer lost in headlights in Perth

[msb1991]

Vinay Kumar has a terrific FC record average of 24 and I am no blind Vinny hater as I think he is decent in Loi'S but in helpful conditions I would take Sree over Vinay anyday Sreeshanth has been very good in helpful conditions where as Vinay looked like a deer lost in headlights in Perth

1. A good First Class record is necessary but not sufficient for a good Test record. 2. Vinay bowled in ONE TEST INNINGS. Sreesanth has had more than one poor Test innings in helpful conditions. He has been expensive numerous times in helpful conditions.

[mastana]

3 Reasons why Dravid_TheWall deserves a second chance 1.) He is a fan of Sreesanth 2.) He is a fan of Sreesanth 3.) He is a fan of Sreesanth

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1. A good First Class record is necessary but not sufficient for a good Test record. 2. Vinay bowled in ONE TEST INNINGS. Sreesanth has had more than one poor Test innings in helpful conditions. He has been expensive numerous times in helpful conditions.

even if viny kumar bowls in 100 test matches vinay kumar wlll be as bad.guy does not have skills for international test cricket.

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It almost slipped out of my hands: Sreesanth Published: Tuesday, Sep 18, 2012, 11:00 IST By Derek Abraham | Place: Mumbai | Agency: DNA When the World Twenty20 was launched in 2007, the format was new to the players. How prepared was the team? We had played a one-off game in South Africa. And if I remember correctly, Dinesh Karthik had won us that game. So we were the only team which went into the tournament with a 100 per cent win record (laughs). I was pretty comfortable with the format because I had captained Kerala in a South Zone tournament. But yes, no one in the Indian team had played more than five or six matches. The team landed in South Africa after a fruitful tour of England (Rahul Dravid & Co had won the three-Test series 1-0, but lost 3-4 in the ODIs). The confidence level must have been high... Yes, I was part of the Test team but was dropped for the seven-match ODI series (Sree was ‘disciplined’ for bowling a couple of beamers to rival skipper Michael Vaughan). But strangely enough, I was named in the World Twenty20 squad. Both teams were announced on the same day. I was hugely disappointed and the fact is that I am yet to play an ODI in England. Maybe I will, some day. I remember I went home, celebrated Onam and then went to South Africa and won the Cup (laughs). How was the mood in the camp? We had an amazing set of coaches. (Lalchand) Rajput sir, Venky sir (bowling coach Venkatesh Prasad) and Robin sir (fielding coach Robin Singh) were all very helpful. Even the manager, Mr Sunil Dev (Delhi and District Cricket Association official), was of great help. The team meetings were so much fun. We used to have dance sessions. There was no tension or fear. We just wanted to have fun. The tournament was also MS Dhoni’s first assignment... Yes, it was. We were a young side and our roles were well defined. It was a great team. India’s opening match against Scotland was washed out. And then you met Pakistan... I will never forget that bowl-out. Your good friend Robin Uthappa had hit the stumps... Robin never missed the stumps during training. In fact, he was the only one with a 100 per cent record. So it was decided that he would take part in the bowl-out if it were to happen. Again, credit must go to Venky sir. That win certainly got the team going but what, according to you, was the turning point for India in the tournament? It’s got to be the England match. I think Yuvi paaji’s six sixes gave us the belief that we could go all the way. I was padded up when he created history. In Twenty20, eveyone’s padded up. And we just went berserk. We started believing that no one could defeat us. I guess (Andrew) Flintoff said something unwanted to him and that motivated him. Poor Stuart Broad bore the brunt. Even the match against South Africa was a crucial one. They needed 114 to qualify and they didn’t even get there. Beating them in Durban was special. They rolled out a typical bowler-friendly wicket and killed themselves. And then came the Aussies... Oh yes, what a match! You had dismissed Adam Gilchrist and Matthew Hayden in that game. Both were clean bowled... Pakistan had already qualified for the final (beating New Zealand) and just as we went out to defend 153, everyone was like, ‘We must enter the final no matter what’. And we were up against a side which had won three World Cups in a row. But we just did it. Let’s talk about that catch you took in the final... I am not sure if people know this, but I had fractured the index finger of my right hand ahead of that abandoned game against Scotland. Our physio, John Gloster, somehow taped my finger before every match. And I managed to play the whole tournament, so hats off to John! The other person I want to tank is Robin sir. He always told us to anticipate. When Joginger Sharma ran in to bowl that ball, Pakistan were a hit away from victory. All I hoped for was that if the ball came my way, I wanted to stop it. But just as Misbah-ul-Haq played that scoop, I went blank. The replays make it seem like a simple catch. But in reality, I had to run about 10-12 yards towards the edge of the circle. Thanks again to Robin sir. I anticipated it. And check out the video once again and you’ll see that the ball hit my fractured finger and slipped out a little before I grabbed it with both hands. And then I just threw it up! The last thing we wanted was to lose to Pakistan in a final. And you know what, I still have that ball (laughs). It must have been one big party that evening... Yes, Shah Rukh Khan was there. It was one of the best evenings of my life. So did anyone ask you about that catch? There was an SMS joke doing the rounds. It read, ‘In every corner of the world, there is a Malayalee, but Misbah didn’t know it’. It felt good. The team had a stopover in Dubai... Dubai, well it’s better we call it ‘United States of Kerala’ (laughs). A lot of people greeted us at the airport.

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All it says that someone with a poor First Class record will eventually have a similar Test record. The poor FC record occurs due to inconsistent fitness or performance and that will usually become apparent over a Test career but sometimes not over the first few matches. 35 off his 87 Test wickets were taken in his first 7 Tests. With the adrenaline flowing, someone can perform out of their shoes (or perhaps be in a short-term period of good form). Its an unscientific statement, but I don't think an unreasonable one. However, the best way to see how someone will perform over a long Test career is their career First Class record and record over approximately the last 3 seasons. The FC average is most telling of how a bowler will perform in Tests in home conditions, such as Philander. Sreesanth's home record illustrates this, with 31 wickets at 39.54.

no it says that fc record is sometimes overated depending on pitches played and team you play for. a guy who plays in second divison and averages 36 should average 50+ in tests. and about adrenaline flowing :hysterical::hysterical: ,helping him perform well its a idiotic statement,guy did well against some top teams and bowled well in india also,success might have got to his head and he may lack fitness afterwards,but guy alwäÿs had tälent.alsi if you look at his homerecord except 1 test against sa where he bowled badly he has bowled well in most of the matche considering conditions. regarding home record zak averages 27 in fc and 35 at home in tests and steyn actually average 16 at home compared o fc average of 24.all in all stats do not tell the whole story.

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Even the match against South Africa was a crucial one. They needed 114 to qualify and they didnÃÕ even get there. Beating them in Durban was special. They rolled out a typical bowler-friendly wicket and killed themselves.

RP produced some great deliveries in that match. Had a great tournament, Sree too bowled well. When Dhoni started as a captain we had some depth in the pace bowling department. RP and Sree doing well, Zaheer coming back, Munaf, Ishant and PK emerging. Now it all seems empty.

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RP produced some great deliveries in that match. Had a great tournament, Sree too bowled well. When Dhoni started as a captain we had some depth in the pace bowling department. RP and Sree doing well, Zaheer coming back, Munaf, Ishant and PK emerging. Now it all seems empty.

its not empty but we have gone backwards to guys like balaji,nehra instead of trying younsters.

[msb1991]

no it says that fc record is sometimes overated depending on pitches played and team you play for. a guy who plays in second divison and averages 36 should average 50+ in tests.

Of course there is no formula to determine things like that.

and about adrenaline flowing :hysterical::hysterical: ' date='helping him perform well its a idiotic statement,guy did well against some top teams and bowled well in india also,success might have got to his head and he may lack fitness afterwards,but guy alwäÿs had tälent.alsi if you look at his homerecord except 1 test against sa where he bowled badly he has bowled well in most of the matche considering conditions.[/quote'] I have shown you his home record, it is poor. He is expensive and doesn't take enough wickets. Zaheer averages 27 in First Class cricket and 35 at home in Tests. This backs up my point. Someone will do worse in Test cricket at home than at First Class cricket at home. Steyn averages 22.27 in South Africa in Test cricket. Steyn has 107 wickets at 19.07 for Titans franchise in South Africa. What you have suggested backs up my argument. Players, over a long career, average more in Test cricket than First Class cricket. You will be able to find exceptions, but these will be players that have good records in both formats but perhaps the Test record is better than the First Class format. There are no poor First Class bowlers that have made good Test bowlers, taken over a full career. There are bowlers picked while they were early in their First Class career who have improved in Test cricket, but such players also transferred such success to domestic cricket.

[msb1991]

its not empty but we have gone backwards to guys like balaji' date='nehra instead of trying younsters.[/quote'] Nehra was crucial in winning the World Cup semi-final and still you are angry about the fact that he lacks pace or is old or whatever. If someone helps a team win a World Cup, their selection in that World Cup is a success. International cricket is not about 'trying youngsters', it is about picking what one thinks is the best team.

[Pagalpanti]

Every time I watch this thread only one thing comes to mind, what a wasted talent. I still remember how Alan, Ravi were going gaga over his seam position when he was rattling SA in their own den. Nothing but a spray machine now.

[vvvslaxman]

This express is just a figment of our imagination lol

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Of course there is no formula to determine things like that. I have shown you his home record, it is poor. He is expensive and doesn't take enough wickets. Zaheer averages 27 in First Class cricket and 35 at home in Tests. This backs up my point. Someone will do worse in Test cricket at home than at First Class cricket at home. Steyn averages 22.27 in South Africa in Test cricket. Steyn has 107 wickets at 19.07 for Titans franchise in South Africa. What you have suggested backs up my argument. Players, over a long career, average more in Test cricket than First Class cricket. You will be able to find exceptions, but these will be players that have good records in both formats but perhaps the Test record is better than the First Class format. There are no poor First Class bowlers that have made good Test bowlers, taken over a full career. There are bowlers picked while they were early in their First Class career who have improved in Test cricket, but such players also transferred such success to domestic cricket.

Poor compared to what ,zak averages 35 at home.sreesanth played on some flat pitches in india,if you watched the matches you would know he was indias best bowler in most of matches.regarding zak he should be around 30 in india but hs fc record is way better compared to perormances at home compared to srinath who averges same 26 .o point s it depends on your skill like srinath was a seäm bowler and zäk is a swing bowler. Regarding steyn your theory falls flat on head,he actually averages less Yes fc record is important but not a given for success .regarding averages its relative in todays cricket most bowlers average 30+

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Nehra was crucial in winning the World Cup semi-final and still you are angry about the fact that he lacks pace or is old or whatever. If someone helps a team win a World Cup' date=' their selection in that World Cup is a success. International cricket is not about 'trying youngsters', it is about picking what one thinks is the best team.[/quote'] I look at more than one match,same nehra lost a match against sa,he was very poör in sa and average or most of year,could not field and used 2 overs to get warmed up.

[MCcricket]

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[Crookbond]

Sreesanth is confirmed as the lucky charm. Wait for "The Return of DTW"

[saneindian]

BUMP From Balaji to Yuvraj to Bhajji, everyone has made a comeback in recent times. When will Kerala Express make a comeback? No news in the media about his rehab at NCA.

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Sreesanth, dressed up in mythological style of the "Viswaroopam" of Lord Vishnu, made the offerings Thursday night. He was accompanied with his parents and close relatives. But a day later Friday, Sreesanth found himself out of the central contracts awarded by the Indian cricket board. "I want to be selected to the Indian team after a lay off following injuries and wish to be in the team on Jan 15 when India take on England in the ODI, to be held at Kochi," said the 29-year-old Sreesanth to media persons after his prayers at the temple. Sreesanth's last first-class match was in November last year when he turned out for Kerala against Vidharba and since then a toe injury has kept him out of competitive cricket. Incidentally, this temple has been a lucky charm for Sreesanth. His mother had offered prayers here ahead of the 2011 World Cup. When the team was announced, Sreesanth did not figure in it, but luck came his way after Praveen Kumar had to withdraw following an injury.

http://sports.in.msn.com/cricket/sreesanth-seeks-blessings-from-famed-guruvayoor

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BUMP From Balaji to Yuvraj to Bhajji, everyone has made a comeback in recent times. When will Kerala Express make a comeback? No news in the media about his rehab at NCA.

Also undergoing rehabilitation at the academy is the fast bowling duo of S Sreesanth and Varun Aaron. Sreesanth, who hasn't turned out for India since last August's Test series against England, has only played one first-class match before picking up a toe injury. The Kerala pacer resumed batting three weeks back and has now started working on his bowling operating in short spells. The 29-year-old is expected to be fit by the end of next month. Meanwhile, Aaron is expected to continue his rehab programme at the academy to cure his back problem.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-10-17/top-stories/34524236_1_national-cricket-academy-team-india-nca

[Dhoni_fan]

Our shocking performance today shows that Sree should have been included in the squad, the reverse he can get would most likely have stopped England from making 400. hopefully this performance will give the selectors a wake up call