Ultimate_Game Posted August 31, 2012 Author Posted August 31, 2012 You didn't quite get my point. It should not be that he corrects his radar 100% and then drops 40% in pace. We need to find an optimum solution. IMO' date=' his pace should be around 140 and radar around 90 percentile.[/quote'] That's why I want him to have a long camp at NCA. You can't do these things in the middle of a Test or when you are with the intl team. You have to take a break from the team, work on your game, sort out the kinks and then come back stronger. I hope for our sake Umesh and BCCI does that and he gets better
Crookbond Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 That's why I want him to have a long camp at NCA. You can't do these things in the middle of a Test or when you are with the intl team. You have to take a break from the team' date=' work on your game, sort out the kinks and then come back stronger. I hope for our sake Umesh and BCCI does that and he gets better [/quote'] Personally, I feel nothing gets close to a real match scenario. An NCA stint should be followed by games at the 'A' level and/or a county team. A county stint will be perfect for any of our bowlers. It's just the perfect place to ply your trade and understand your game. It prepares you for hard tests ahead and in real time. Nets etc. are ok but county cricket for bowlers should be fantastic.
Ultimate_Game Posted August 31, 2012 Author Posted August 31, 2012 Personally' date=' I feel nothing gets close to a real match scenario. An NCA stint should be followed by games at the 'A' level and/or a county team. A county stint will be perfect for any of our bowlers. It's just the perfect place to ply your trade and understand your game. It prepares you for hard tests ahead and in real time. Nets etc. are ok but county cricket for bowlers should be fantastic.[/quote'] Yup, you need to play at least a couple of domestic or India "A" games to show you have improved. I didn't mean he goes to NCA and directly joins the team. He has to prove that he has improved but he needn't play a whole season at domestic level. Couple of games should be enough. I hope Joe Dawes works with him to sort his problems out as i don't want to see another of our upcoming pacer with potential go the RP/Sreesanth/Nehra/Munaf/VRV way :((
rkt.india Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 where were you in the last test? Bowlers learn with bad experience. Hope, he will learn, Otherwise just :wall:
Laaloo Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 where were you in the last test? Bowlers learn with bad experience. Hope' date=' he will learn, Otherwise just :wall:[/quote'] +++ Some people just have no patience. It takes time to groom a fast bowler. It's not easy bowling in India regardless. Give Yadav some time. If he shows improvement, then good for us. If not, then send him to domestic cricket. We gave so many chances to likes of Sreesanth and Ishant, then why not Yadav?
Sidhoni Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Dishing out short and wide stuff and his pace was helping the batsmen with that line and length. Needs to get it fuller.
CG Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Dishing out short and wide stuff and his pace was helping the batsmen with that line and length. Needs to get it fuller. There was no swing for him today.
J P K Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 legend`s home ground :proud: only legend can get wicket here :secret:
Ultimate_Game Posted August 31, 2012 Author Posted August 31, 2012 where were you in the last test? Bowlers learn with bad experience. Hope' date=' he will learn, Otherwise just :wall:[/quote'] But last Test there wasn't much fast bowlers had to do :dontknow:
CG Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 But last Test there wasn't much fast bowlers had to do :dontknow: What makes you think they had today,there was no swing,just some seam for first few overs and kaptan gives new ball to spinners.
rkt.india Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 But last Test there wasn't much fast bowlers had to do :dontknow: But still he had bowled and bowled better than any other fast bowler in the game.
PaceAttack Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Maybe its time to introduce Vinny kumar and Shreenath aravind, R pee singh, and Santha kumaran Sreesanth.
J P K Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Maybe its time to introduce Vinay kumar :agree:
ShebbySB Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 The bowling of Umesh yesterday was just rubbish.Too short or too full,nothing on the good length & inconsistent line.It was good to see Dawes talking to him in the dressing room. Hope that helps in the 2nd innings.
rkt.india Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 The bowling of Umesh yesterday was just rubbish.Too short or too full,nothing on the good length & inconsistent line.It was good to see Dawes talking to him in the dressing room. Hope that helps in the 2nd innings. Talk less, practice more in the nets.
Number Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Talk less' date=' practice more in the nets.[/quote'] You know a fast bowler has bowled extremely bad, when even RKT is disappointed with him. :--D
cowboysfan Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Umesh has not learned anything from bowling with Zak,all he does is bowl fast and mostly short ,its not going to work in India,we should think of playing Ishant in the 3rd test if he is healthy.
rkt.india Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Umesh has not learned anything from bowling with Zak' date='all he does is bowl fast and mostly short ,its not going to work in India,we should think of playing Ishant in the 3rd test if he is healthy.[/quote'] No third test.:two_thumbs_up:
CSK Fan Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 All of a sudden, PK doesnt look too bad, does he?
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