yoda Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 There are crazy individuals in every country' date=' but don't have such ready access to guns as in the US.[/quote'] Well it is either legal to own them or not. Making them easily accessible or not will not matter in cases like these where the guy is going to get one if he needs it. I say ban the right to carry guns totally and make it illegal to be in possession of one. Then again it seems like most countries have some kind of a law allowing individuals to own a gun for self defense.
punjabi_khota Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 Could definitely start by banning assault rifles etc. and severely restricting ammunition. Take it off the internet, and make the background checks very stringent.
Texy Posted August 6, 2012 Author Posted August 6, 2012 Nothing will happen...NRA is owned by rich republican white folks with substantial influence lobbying in DC. Seems like this guy was dishonorably discharged from the army and his anger blaming a particular community arose from there
Nova Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 Wade Michael Page had hate written all over him. A neo-Nazi skinhead, Page waded into hate after a less than honorable discharge from the U.S Army in 1998, well before 9/11. It is not clear why and when he developed an antipathy for Sikhs, or whether it was Sikh-specific, but the Southern Poverty Law Center noted his extensive connections to hate groups. On its website, the SPLC said that in 2010, Page, then the leader of the band called End Apathy, gave an interview to the white supremacist website Label 56 in which he said that when he started the band in 2005, its name reflected his wish to ''figure out how to end people's apathetic ways'' and start ''moving forward.'' No one read that as a prelude to bloody gun violence. "I was willing to point out some of my faults on how I was holding myself back,'' Page was quoted as saying. Later, he added, ''The inspiration was based on frustration that we have the potential to accomplish so much more as individuals and a society in whole." Page told the website that he had been a part of the white power music scene since 2000, when he left his native Colorado on a motorcycle. He attended white power concerts in Georgia, North Carolina, West Virginia and Colorado. At various times, he said, he also played in the hate rock bands Youngland (2001-2003), Celtic Warrior, Radikahl, Max Resist, Intimidation One, Aggressive Force and Blue Eyed Devils. End Apathy, he said, included ''Brent'' on bass and "Ozzie" on drums; the men were former members of Definite Hate and another band, 13 Knots. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/US-gurdwara-killer-was-a-US-Army-vet-white-supremacist-skinhead/articleshow/15379522.cms
coffee_rules Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 Crackdown on White Supremacist group..all that hate will eventually inspire someone to take up arms and kill people.
suraj Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 Wade Michael Page had hate written all over him. A neo-Nazi skinhead, Page waded into hate after a less than honorable discharge from the U.S Army in 1998, well before 9/11. It is not clear why and when he developed an antipathy for Sikhs, or whether it was Sikh-specific, but the Southern Poverty Law Center noted his extensive connections to hate groups. On its website, the SPLC said that in 2010, Page, then the leader of the band called End Apathy, gave an interview to the white supremacist website Label 56 in which he said that when he started the band in 2005, its name reflected his wish to ''figure out how to end people's apathetic ways'' and start ''moving forward.'' No one read that as a prelude to bloody gun violence. "I was willing to point out some of my faults on how I was holding myself back,'' Page was quoted as saying. Later, he added, ''The inspiration was based on frustration that we have the potential to accomplish so much more as individuals and a society in whole." Page told the website that he had been a part of the white power music scene since 2000, when he left his native Colorado on a motorcycle. He attended white power concerts in Georgia, North Carolina, West Virginia and Colorado. At various times, he said, he also played in the hate rock bands Youngland (2001-2003), Celtic Warrior, Radikahl, Max Resist, Intimidation One, Aggressive Force and Blue Eyed Devils. End Apathy, he said, included ''Brent'' on bass and "Ozzie" on drums; the men were former members of Definite Hate and another band, 13 Knots. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/US-gurdwara-killer-was-a-US-Army-vet-white-supremacist-skinhead/articleshow/15379522.cms Man-such profiles are scary this harami was such an ignorant chewtiya these idiots- hindu, muslim, sikh india, pak, middle east they don't understand anything. He still probably wanted to continue with slavery. Moron!!
panesarv Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 :facepalm: @ all people whining about stupid whites mistaking Sikhs for Muslims It is not like it is ok to have killed people praying in a mosque :facepalm: Talk about missing the point. That's what I was thinking too. The implication was that it's okay to hate muslims (because 0.01% of have made Taliban) but don't hate Sikhs. Point is - don't hate anyone :facepalm:
panesarv Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 I like this guy's approach; he is promoting equality for all - sikhs, muslims, hindus and not just for his own community - http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2012/08/06/exp-point-narinder-singh.cnn Notice how he doesn't say don't confuse us with muslims - hence, NOT implying that it is okay to hate a common muslim man because some idiots from his community are doing stupid ****.
Clarke Posted August 6, 2012 Posted August 6, 2012 Page “does not represent military sentiment,” Army Major Kamal Kalsi tells TIME. “And I am a testament to that, being a turbaned Sikh in the military.” Kalsi says he is one of only three turbaned Sikh soldiers in the U.S. Army and among the first in 30 years to be able to wear his turban, retain his long beard and hair and keep his kirpan — the ceremonial knife carried by male Sikhs — underneath his uniform, so long as its blade is no longer than three inches. “I’ve know the military to be a very welcoming place in terms of diversity and cultural awareness,” says Kalsi, 36, who has served as an Army doctor at Fort Bragg, N.C., for two years. “It is unfortunate that he had ties to the military.” The Army’s former top psychiatrist urges caution before linking Page’s horrific act to his military duty. “It is too early to know whether or not his military service, which ended with a dishonorable discharge and reduction in rank from sergeant to specialist in 1998, had anything to do either with his neo-Nazi leanings or the shooting,” says Elspeth Ritchie, now a Battleland contributor. “But we do know that he didn’t serve in combat. Hopefully this tragic episode will not serve to further stigmatize those who have served honorably.” http://nation.time.com/2012/08/06/the-sikh-shooters-army-past-and-a-u-s-armys-sikhs-reaction/?iid=us-article-latest
panesarv Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 Now they burn down a mosque - http://www.boston.com/news/nation/2012/08/06/joplin-mosque-razed-fire-blaze-this-summer/YzylFrJpsTJ4GRY21bIvNJ/story.html
Rajiv Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 Are these no-nasis >> republicans or at least lean towards them?
jind Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 Prayers go out to the families of the victims. Horrific Tragedy Sikhs had to go through a rough time after 9/11 too. Why was this? Balbir Singh Sodhi was a victim of such a hate crime following 9/11 as he was gunned down at the gas station. 9/11, with all those images of Bin Laden and others with turbans and beards flashed on TV coupled with the ignorance and hatred of people. Like the member of the Sikh Coalition ( the organization along with SALDEF which btw has done great work in the past and continues to do so) group in the video posted by panesarv, even CNN flashed a video of a Sikh being arrested in the USA after the twin tower tragedy which obviously had no connection with 9/11. Just goes to show how ignorant people and media like CNN can be at times. It's a pity as the Sikhs have been in the USA for over a 100 hundred years.
suraj Posted August 8, 2012 Posted August 8, 2012 Shooter killed himself MILWAUKEE, Wisconsin (Reuters) - The white supremacist gunman who killed six people at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, the FBI said on Wednesday. A police officer shot and wounded the gunman, Wade Page, 40, in the stomach outside the temple in Oak Creek on Sunday, said Teresa Carlson, an FBI special agent in charge. "Subsequent to that wound, it appears that Page died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head," she told a news conference. Police had said Page had been shot to death by an officer responding to the attack at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in suburban Milwaukee. Carlson said she had seen a video of the police officer wounding Page with a squad rifle. "It's an amazing shot, and thank goodness," she said. Federal authorities have said they are treating the attack as a possible act of domestic terrorism. Page, an Army veteran, was a musician who played in white power punk-metal bands. He was armed with a 9mm handgun during the attack. Turban-wearing Sikhs are often mistaken for Muslims in the United States. The Sikh faith was founded in the Punjab area of India and Pakistan and has an estimated 500,000 or more adherents in the United States. President Barack Obama called Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to express his condolences over the temple shooting. Carlson said investigators had not found any motive for the attack, which also wounded four people, including a police officer shot eight or nine times after responding to a 911 call. The wounded officer, Lieutenant Brian Murphy, is up and walking, Carlson said. Investigators have conducted more than 100 interviews with Page's relatives, employers and associates, Carlson said. They are also following 101 leads worldwide and have issued 180 federal grand jury subpoenas. Police have arrested Page's former girlfriend, Misty Cook, on a weapons charge. Carlson said the arrest took place at Cook's Milwaukee home late on Sunday and was unrelated to the shooting investigation. Cook was charged with being a felon in possession of a weapon, she said http://news.yahoo.com/sikh-temple-gunman-died-own-hand-fbi-152408782.html
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