maniac Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Jab aisee chhoriyan Bhojpuri mein bakar bakar karengi' date= tou bhojpuri bhi boooteefoool lagegi. I end my case right there :two_thumbs_up:
Tiger80 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 It's not only Hindi' date=' we have scant respect for all Indian regional languages. I have come across so many ppl in life who after learning Hindi and English, want to learn French, German or Spanish. But rarely I have seen people making an attempt to learn other Indian regional language. It's true not only for Hindi-natives but for all Indians.[/quote'] Plenty of Indians have dreams of working and living in Europe or USA.Learning French , spanish or german could give them extra advantage.in job market.May be that is the reason they are inclined toward it.Anyway if more Indians learn Spanish, French , German , japanese , Korean. then it will help them more in getting job and India will become much more preferable destination for outsourcing for these countries.Learning regional language could hardly help an Indian in economic terms.
CSK Fan Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 It's not only Hindi' date=' we have scant respect for all Indian regional languages. I have come across so many ppl in life who after learning Hindi and English, want to learn French, German or Spanish. But rarely I have seen people making an attempt to learn other Indian regional language. It's true not only for Hindi-natives but for all Indians.[/quote'] I dont see anything wrong with that. a regional language will seldom help in real life, except for the sentimental value. Also, I dont see the need for preserving each regional language, languages were evolved to help human beings communicate, not to be hung like an albatross around one's throat. As the world becomes smaller and smaller, I dont see anything wrong with some languages dying out
maniac Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 I dont see anything wrong with that. a regional language will seldom help in real life' date=' except for the sentimental value. Also, I dont see the need for preserving each regional language, languages were evolved to help human beings communicate, not to be hung like an albatross around one's throat. As the world becomes smaller and smaller, I dont see anything wrong with some languages dying out[/quote'] I disagree....Here is my 2 cents on this....If a language dies....so does a lot of literary work...and by that doesn't really have to be stories and folk tales. We are a diverse country and people from each region might have specific skillsets passed on to them in their own language from generation to generation and by that I don't mean a software engineer from T.N or Hyd teaching his nephew, C language but hope you catch my drift. There could be so much hidden stuff in Latin and Sanskrit texts (pure speculation though)that have been lost over time due to the languages going extinct .speaking a language is not the same as researching them.
Lurker Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 I dont see anything wrong with that. a regional language will seldom help in real life' date=' except for the sentimental value.[b'] Also, I dont see the need for preserving each regional language, languages were evolved to help human beings communicate, not to be hung like an albatross around one's throat. As the world becomes smaller and smaller, I dont see anything wrong with some languages dying out I do. Most of us "Indians" regale in celebrating our Nobel laureate Rabindra Nath Tagore. But for Bengalis noone else would have read him. That sounds okay to you? You can spend an entire life listening to Katy Perry and Gangam style (:D) and never understand Ekla chalo re. You can extend that analogy to Amrita Pritam, Vijay Tendulkar, Nagasena etc etc. Then again more folks read today have read JK Rawlings (Harry Potter) than Munshi Premchandra :((:((
Lurker Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Jab aisee chhoriyan Bhojpuri mein bakar bakar karengi' date= tou bhojpuri bhi boooteefoool lagegi. Bjojpuri gaana usse beautiful hota hai bhai. Have you seen any Bhojpuri videos laterly? Bhojpuri and Malyalam movies are the sex education medium in India. You should search for Parda gira ke garda machaval :yay::yay:
Lurker Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 ^^ continuing with the Bhojpuri songs sample this song... Mood kara garam, Chora ab sharam hamra dehiya mein la karvatiya charchara da balam aaj khatiya :hysterical::hysterical:
Nova Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 english is indias official language Hindi is the principal official language, english is secondary.
Raghav_12 Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 Plenty of Indians have dreams of working and living in Europe or USA.Learning French ' date=' spanish or german could give them extra advantage.in job market.May be that is the reason they are inclined toward it.Anyway if more Indians learn Spanish, French , German , japanese , Korean. then it will help them more in getting job and India will become much more preferable destination for outsourcing for these countries.Learning regional language could hardly help an Indian in economic terms.[/quote'] I understand some of these points. For the same reason I didn't mention English there. But the kind of preference French or German get over regional languages can not be attributed completely to future prospect compulsions. Some of this has to do with our inherent bias towards developed countries. If ease of future life is only motive, then many more Indians would prefer to learn regional languages as in current set up people move a lot within country also. In between, I am Hindi speaking, North Indian.
G_B_ Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 first india should gain permanent membership any demands on language etc can be made later. All india has to do is keep growing economically and with its military. If the UN decides not to accommodative you it will simply become a league of nations.
Laaloo Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 I do. Most of us "Indians" regale in celebrating our Nobel laureate Rabindra Nath Tagore. But for Bengalis noone else would have read him. That sounds okay to you? You can spend an entire life listening to Katy Perry and Gangam style (:D) and never understand Ekla chalo re. You can extend that analogy to Amrita Pritam, Vijay Tendulkar, Nagasena etc etc. Then again more folks read today have read JK Rawlings (Harry Potter) than Munshi Premchandra :((:(( ++ Kaash I had spent an year extra before coming to US. Had just started learning hindi for a few months and had to come here because of my masi :mad: Now all I speak is some limited conversational hindi and bollywood hindi :(( P.S. Need to start learning hindi again because one of my goals in my life is to learn sanskrit. And if I learn shuddh hindi, then transitioning to sanskrit would be much smoother.
Lurker Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 Kaash I had spent an year extra before coming to US. Had just started learning hindi for a few months and had to come here because of my masi :mad: Abbe Laloo, Yaar tum apne Mausi ko bahut badnaam kiye huye ho:giggle: Aur tum saale Gujju log kya Masi-masi karte ho? Its mausi, mau-si samjha lol. Waise masi by definition is ma-si, as in ma ke jaisi, maa ki tarah. Saale mausi ko badnaam kartna band karo. I do appreciate your admittance of the whole thing, including coming overseas. Not many people are upfront like that. Aur Hindi to yehan bhi itne bolne waale hain, thora thora roz sheekho. I hereby pledge to fill your brain with Bihari gaaliyon ka shabdkosh. :hmmm:
Crookbond Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 Hindi is the principal official language' date=' english is secondary.[/quote'] Source please - thanks.
akshayxyz Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 ++ Kaash I had spent an year extra before coming to US. Had just started learning hindi for a few months and had to come here because of my masi :mad: Now all I speak is some limited conversational hindi and bollywood hindi :(( P.S. Need to start learning hindi again because one of my goals in my life is to learn sanskrit. And if I learn shuddh hindi, then transitioning to sanskrit would be much smoother. WTF. if you want to learn sanskrit, then learn sanskrit.... the only common thing between between sanskrit and Hindi is script and few words (mostly not in original form)..and Sanskrit is one of the most unambiguous natural language (very well defined grammar/rules - almost as good as a computer programming language).
Crookbond Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 I do. Most of us "Indians" regale in celebrating our Nobel laureate Rabindra Nath Tagore. But for Bengalis noone else would have read him. That sounds okay to you? You can spend an entire life listening to Katy Perry and Gangam style (:D) and never understand Ekla chalo re. You can extend that analogy to Amrita Pritam, Vijay Tendulkar, Nagasena etc etc. Then again more folks read today have read JK Rawlings (Harry Potter) than Munshi Premchandra :((:(( There's a fine line between encouragement and force. If you feel it is OK to preserve encourage it but alsno note that Charity begins at home. Also, to each one his own - if you feel it is important to preserve, encourage the existence. If someone does not feel, let him not. None of the parties get a moral high ground over each other for anything. So, if I prefer JK Rowling over Tagore (I actually do not just an example) that's my choice. You have a right to make your choice and so can you. It's that simple - no point in the spreading the philosophy of Mine is bigger than yours.
nikred Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 Abbe Laloo, Yaar tum apne Mausi ko bahut badnaam kiye huye ho:giggle: Aur tum saale Gujju log kya Masi-masi karte ho? Its mausi, mau-si samjha lol. Waise masi by definition is ma-si, as in ma ke jaisi, maa ki tarah. Saale mausi ko badnaam kartna band karo. I do appreciate your admittance of the whole thing, including coming overseas. Not many people are upfront like that. Aur Hindi to yehan bhi itne bolne waale hain, thora thora roz sheekho. I hereby pledge to fill your brain with Bihari gaaliyon ka shabdkosh. :hmmm: Can you teach me some of those Bihari gaaliyan? I will use it on my bihari roomie. :woot:
Mariyam Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 WTF. if you want to learn sanskrit' date=' then learn sanskrit.... the only common thing between between sanskrit and Hindi is script and few words (mostly not in original form)..and Sanskrit is one of the most unambiguous natural language (very well defined grammar/rules - almost as good as a computer programming language).[/quote'] unambiguous = bad. No wonder lawyers had a tough time during the Vedic ages. Ambiguity is a lawyer's bread and butter. Ambiguity zindabad. :P
Lurker Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 Can you teach me some of those Bihari gaaliyan? I will use it on my bihari roomie. :woot: Re boorbak Teri jaat ka paida maroon, saalon yehi bhi shikhaoon gaali :hitler: PM karo
Lurker Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 There's a fine line between encouragement and force. If you feel it is OK to preserve encourage it but alsno note that Charity begins at home. That is an oft stated argument but does not hold water. In my living memory I have not seen an effort to push Hindi down anybody's throat. There is this hysteria amongst certain segments of India that Hindi is pushed down, but when/where/how? That is never spelled out. Secondly, encouraging sounds great in theory but how does it work in reality? You seriously expect State Bank of Madurai to "encourage" its workers to conduct daily business in Hindi, and see no resistance?? Half the population of India speak Hindi, the other half speaks 10 different language and they can not converse with each other. There has to be something wrong right there, if you can see it. By the way, I have mentioned this earlier too. I wouldnt care if instead of Hindi Bengali becomes the lingua-franca, but ffs get off English when you have 10s of your own language.
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