rkt.india Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 The most amusing is Duncan. Lot of coaches have been sacked after less poor performances than this. More than 3 years, he is still going nowhere.
undisputed chap Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 The most amusing is Duncan. Lot of coaches have been sacked after less poor performances than this. More than 3 years' date=' he is still going nowhere.[/quote'] Yes lets sack the coach becoz a part timer is running through our legunds :winky:
rkt.india Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Yes lets sack the coach becoz a part timer is running through our legunds :winky: Yes, even Aus had made mistake by sacking Micky Arthur. What can a coach do if your top order is getting out to Moin Ali!
zep1706 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 I keep hearing how captaincy is overrated. But IMO the importance of a captain in test cricket can not be overstated.
Straight Drive Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 The support for Dhoni as a captain in test format is very tough to understand. Also, imo ODI's and T20 should go to Virat who is a much better player than Dhoni in those formats. Virat has to show better maturity on field though in the way he conducts himself.
King Tendulkar Posted August 11, 2014 Author Posted August 11, 2014 Those who haven't been able to watch "The Verdict" on Sky Sports in the UK - Ravi Shastri is one of the guests on the show and has strongly backed Dhoni as India captain, even if India lose this series 3-1 :haha: He thinks Dhoni did all he could in this test, scored runs, managed bowlers well. But his batsmen let him down. Also given India's performance at Lord's, Shastri thinks questioning Dhoni and Fletcher's position now is ridiculous :haha: Yeah I watched that. It was a ridiculous performance from shastri:haha:
The Realist Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Shastri is beyond hope. All those years of substance abuse and bending over for the BCCI have taken their toll. His mind is gone and he has no spine. He cuts a sad pathetic figure.
King Tendulkar Posted August 11, 2014 Author Posted August 11, 2014 Shastri is beyond hope. All those years of substance abuse and bending over for the BCCI have taken their toll. His mind is gone and he has no spine. He cuts a sad pathetic figure. Well to be fair most would tow the line of on a mutli crore contract. The real point is why the rest of media don't expose and hammer this paid comm thing and how the indian public seem totally oblivious to it and seem to take sunny/shastri and co comments seriously, hence the indian public thinking dhoni is great skipper doing great job! O well we also think our politicians are great , while they steal our money!!
CSK Fan Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Yes lets sack the coach becoz a part timer is running through our legunds :winky: Yes, because everyone here is talking about the last test and last series and not looking at zero improvement in THREE years and counting. And what legends, kids on their first English tours? Seriously some of your posts :headshake: Again why you even pretend with the we and our part is beyond me
FischerTal Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 @doctoratlarge: Indian cricket team playing in foreign conditions looks as comfortable as Salman Khan would look in a Satyajit Ray film :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
undisputed chap Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Yes, because everyone here is talking about the last test and last series and not looking at zero improvement in THREE years and counting. And what legends, kids on their first English tours? Seriously some of your posts :headshake: Again why you even pretend with the we and our part is beyond me Firstly I am as indian as sachin tendulkar . Secondly everyone here comes here nowadays just to bash dhoni FOR EVERYTHING ignoring the incompetence of our bowlers & batsmen. Thirdly BCCI has already extended fletcher's contract till 2015 wc even after the frequent losses .So everyone whining about his sacking are simply living in a delusional state.
CSK Fan Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Firstly I am as indian as sachin tendulkar . Secondly everyone here comes here nowadays just to bash dhoni FOR EVERYTHING ignoring the incompetence of our bowlers & batsmen. Thirdly BCCI has already extended fletcher's contract till 2015 wc even after the frequent losses .So everyone whining about his sacking are simply living in a delusional state. Our bowlers are on record saying they have been asked to bowl negatively. Some of our bowlers are making debut on their first over seas tour All of our batsmen except Dhoni are completely green when it comes to England So who in their right mind would want to blame the youngsters more and not the ultra defensive tactics and lack of plan? Remember, no one is complaining that we lost, but that we surrendered meekly and seemed to have no plan. A well fought loss with youngsters showing spirit is very different thing
King Tendulkar Posted August 11, 2014 Author Posted August 11, 2014 Times report on the test sums it up "security of of MSD captaincy owes more to his lofty status that any discernible talent for game management......his tactics in the field bordered on eccentric"
FreakazoiD Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Yeah I watched that. It was a ridiculous performance from shastri:haha: I was surprised that it was actually the Englishmen on the show who were raising questions about Dhoni's captaincy, but Shastri would have none of it. He even brushed aside Charles Colville's first question to him "Is it time for India to look beyond Dhoni and Fletcher", as he ignored that question and deflected it onto how badly India played as a team. I'm just flummoxed as to how none of the ex-cricketers can see through this whole charade? Has the BCCI bought them all? The likes of Shane Warne, Ian Chappell and all Englishmen are stunned by Dhoni's captaincy in tests. Yet the Indian cricketers seem to think nothing is wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if Dhoni stays captain well past the 2015 WC, maybe until the 2016 T20 WC which Srini announced will be played in India.
The Realist Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Dhoni closer to claiming worst record The India captain is on the verge of equalling an ignominous record in possession of the former Black Caps skipper - that of maximum number of away Test defeats while leading his country. Fleming and Brian Lara with 16 overseas Test losses have the worst record among international skippers. Dhoni after the humilating defeat in the Manchester Test now has 13 away Test defeats as a leader under his belt. Three more overseas Test defeats would put him alongside captains with worst Test records - a piece of statistic that would certainly make the Indian captain uncomfortable. After losing a Test match in New Zealand, Dhoni had surpassed Sourav Ganguly, Mansur Ali Khan Pataudi and Mohammed Azharuddin as the India skipper with worst away record. The trio had 10 overseas Test defeats and the loss in Wellington was Dhoni's 11th as captain on foreign soil. However Ganguly has the best record as captain on foreign soil with 11 Test victories including to series draws in England (2002) and Australia (2003-04). Under Ganguly`s captaincy, India also won in West Indies, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka. Dhoni has so far won only six Tests away from home in the 27 he has led the side. http://www.thatscricket.com/news/2014/08/11/captain-ms-dhoni-closer-claiming-worst-record-072322.html
King Tendulkar Posted August 11, 2014 Author Posted August 11, 2014 I was surprised that it was actually the Englishmen on the show who were raising questions about Dhoni's captaincy, but Shastri would have none of it. He even brushed aside Charles Colville's first question to him "Is it time for India to look beyond Dhoni and Fletcher", as he ignored that question and deflected it onto how badly India played as a team. I'm just flummoxed as to how none of the ex-cricketers can see through this whole charade? Has the BCCI bought them all? The likes of Shane Warne, Ian Chappell and all Englishmen are stunned by Dhoni's captaincy in tests. Yet the Indian cricketers seem to think nothing is wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if Dhoni stays captain well past the 2015 WC, maybe until the 2016 T20 WC which Srini announced will be played in India. It truly was an amazing performance by shastri. Yes he like a true lieing politician just answerd any question how he like when did not want to answer the question. Just when in doubt kept repeating how team won at lords and thus showed a good team, need to just perfume like they did at lords blah blah. God knows how many tiumes he repated that some trail of thought. Colville had enough and then just asked Willis that if he was indian what would he say, at least bob had a pop at idiotic dhoni
King Tendulkar Posted August 11, 2014 Author Posted August 11, 2014 Dhoni closer to claiming worst record The India captain is on the verge of equalling an ignominous record in possession of the former Black Caps skipper - that of maximum number of away Test defeats while leading his country. Fleming and Brian Lara with 16 overseas Test losses have the worst record among international skippers. Dhoni after the humilating defeat in the Manchester Test now has 13 away Test defeats as a leader under his belt. Three more overseas Test defeats would put him alongside captains with worst Test records - a piece of statistic that would certainly make the Indian captain uncomfortable. After losing a Test match in New Zealand, Dhoni had surpassed Sourav Ganguly, Mansur Ali Khan Pataudi and Mohammed Azharuddin as the India skipper with worst away record. The trio had 10 overseas Test defeats and the loss in Wellington was Dhoni's 11th as captain on foreign soil. However Ganguly has the best record as captain on foreign soil with 11 Test victories including to series draws in England (2002) and Australia (2003-04). Under Ganguly`s captaincy, India also won in West Indies, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka. Dhoni has so far won only six Tests away from home in the 27 he has led the side. http://www.thatscricket.com/news/2014/08/11/captain-ms-dhoni-closer-claiming-worst-record-072322.html embarrassing Man has no dignity and wont even resign. No skipper in Indian history could have survived the last pathetic 3 years, sad corrupt times we live in
The Realist Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 MS Drubbing will take the record easily on the Aus tour. 4 tests 4 defeats 17 losses and counting...
kubrickian Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 I was surprised that it was actually the Englishmen on the show who were raising questions about Dhoni's captaincy, but Shastri would have none of it. He even brushed aside Charles Colville's first question to him "Is it time for India to look beyond Dhoni and Fletcher", as he ignored that question and deflected it onto how badly India played as a team. I'm just flummoxed as to how none of the ex-cricketers can see through this whole charade? Has the BCCI bought them all? The likes of Shane Warne, Ian Chappell and all Englishmen are stunned by Dhoni's captaincy in tests. Yet the Indian cricketers seem to think nothing is wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if Dhoni stays captain well past the 2015 WC, maybe until the 2016 T20 WC which Srini announced will be played in India. They are no saints either. Many of them suck up to Cook and ECB. Cook is a very defensive captain and he also seems to be clueless on the field many times. He will be exposed terribly against SA and Aus.
King Tendulkar Posted August 11, 2014 Author Posted August 11, 2014 They are no saints either. Many of them suck up to Cook and ECB. Cook is a very defensive captain and he also seems to be clueless on the field many times. He will be exposed terribly against SA and Aus. They have been slaughtering cook, only india patheticness saved him. After Lords test many ex players openly saying should be axed. Meanwhile in India...
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