asterix Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 And Dhobi was like, "Aisey zara, wahin pe daal.. daaltey rahna wahin pe, Kuch honey wala hain.." Penchor Phoni..His keeping was atrocious...
India-KXIP fan Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 What does Fatwin average against top 5 ranked Test teams? Is it below or above 50? "Number 1" off-spinner
Old guy Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 What does Ahwin average against top 5 ranked teams. Is it below or above 50? "Number 1" off-spinner chris martin the batsman vs harbhajan who wins ?
India-KXIP fan Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 chris martin the batsman vs harbhajan who wins ? Going by Ashwin's performance against the top 5 teams (around 50 average) Bhaji is a better bowler. We all know he can also handle the bat. Bhaji also has EXCELLENT leadership skills. Just look at the effect of his captaincy to Punjab. Although current captain Mandeep also played a part. Last year they didn't have Bhaji for long and what was the result? Bhaji is an all round cricketer, and also one of the top 10 wicket takers of all time. Remember that before you continue with your usual garbage posts.
CSK Fan Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 Fatwin struggled to support Ojha from the other end, in the 2nd innings. He appeared 'off colour'... Thankfully the seamers chipped in... No sure about his 'class' be he needs to be bit consistent.. 1 off innings for a 9 match old rookie. Yet certain other turbanned bowlers, who will remain un-named, have the license to suck for over 2 years without being questioned
vvvslaxman Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 Going by Ashwin's performance against the top 5 teams (around 50 average) Bhaji is a better bowler. We all know he can also handle the bat. Bhaji also has EXCELLENT leadership skills. Just look at the effect of his captaincy to Punjab. Although current captain Mandeep also played a part. Last year they didn't have Bhaji for long and what was the result? Bhaji is an all round cricketer, and also one of the top 10 wicket takers of all time. Remember that before you continue with your usual garbage posts. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/239025.html Bhajji vs Cook :giggle: Amazing figures there 1 for 167 runs
asterix Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 1 off innings for a 9 match old rookie. Yet certain other turbanned bowlers' date=' who will remain un-named, have the license to suck for over 2 years without being questioned[/quote'] Many players are sucking at the end of their careers... For example a certain Dulkar too. But all of them didn't suck at the start of their career...
India-KXIP fan Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 Many players are sucking at the end of their careers... For example a certain Dulkar too. But all of them didn't suck at the start of their career... Spot on. 5 matches against the big teams and average around 50 :facepalm:
CSK Fan Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 What does Fatwin average against top 5 ranked Test teams? Is it below or above 50? "Number 1" off-spinner Aswin'a average vs Australia (only country in top 5 he has played before this series), which ws an overseas series is 62. This is for a player who had 5 matches of test experience. Compare this to Bhajji's average in Australia - 73.
CSK Fan Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 Many players are sucking at the end of their careers... For example a certain Dulkar too. But all of them didn't suck at the start of their career... Fastetst to 50 wickets in only 9 matches. 5 Five wicket hauls in 9 matches (thats more than 1 ever 2 match!). Yes, he defnitely is sucking because he took only 1 wicket in the last innings
vvvslaxman Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 Fastetst to 50 wickets in only 9 matches. 5 Five wicket hauls in 9 matches (thats more than 1 ever 2 match!). Yes' date=' he defnitely is sucking because he took only 1 wicket in the last innings[/quote'] Should have been 2 but for Dhoni :(( Even in first innings dropped chance, leg before turned down for him. He bowled bad only against cook on day 4 first session. Mainly his line was bad. Otherwise did a good job bowling 2 innings in a row.
kubrickian Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 Going by Ashwin's performance against the top 5 teams (around 50 average) Bhaji is a better bowler. We all know he can also handle the bat. Bhaji also has EXCELLENT leadership skills. Just look at the effect of his captaincy to Punjab. Although current captain Mandeep also played a part. Last year they didn't have Bhaji for long and what was the result? Bhaji is an all round cricketer, and also one of the top 10 wicket takers of all time. Remember that before you continue with your usual garbage posts. Before the first test, you said Ojha is a useless bowler and wanted Bhajji in his place. Now its turn of Ashwin ? :hysterical:
GautiMaan Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 Bowled well in 1st innings.Will do better along with Kohli in the next match be patient
kubrickian Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 Ashwin is a lot better bowler when there is sharp turn and bounce like at Mumbai, as opposed to the conditions at Motera where there was very slow turn and low bounce. He also needs to be patient and dont try too many things. He still bowled quite decently in the 1st test though.
yoda Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 3 wickets in 1st with a denied plumb LBW, 1 wicket in 2nd with a missed stumping and dropped catch I believe, and this is supposedly one of his worst games. not bad :nice: Either way I don't see Bhajji in the mix in the near or mid-term or distant future, unless we play 3 spinners.
saket123 Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 Ashwin can turn his class into world class by reducing the size of his world class ass.
carnish Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 Ashwin will be back with a bang in Mumbai. Hope he gets loads of wickets there.
Crookbond Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Cook lesson in basics for keyed-up Ashwin http://www.wisdenindia.com/cricket-article/cook-lesson-basics-keyed-up-ashwin/36209 Alastair Cook waged a lone battle in the company of Matt Prior to take the first Test into the final day, and though India took the final honours without much ado, several intriguing aspects came forth from the match. Did Cook’s effort indicate that the Englishmen saw too many non-existent devils in the pitch, or did the Indian spinners fail to get their act together? An affirmative answer to both would be deemed too critical, while a negative one would be categorised as extremely charitable. However, if the efforts of Cook and the spinners are viewed in proper perspective, one would appreciate the master class from Cook on the art of batting on a dry turning track as much as one would comprehend the degree of craft required for a spinner to bowl even on a helpful pitch. Cook may have been guilty of reading the pitch incorrectly, which in turn resulted in him pinning his faith on the fast bowlers a shade too much, but his judgment of line and length backed by flawless shot selection was close to perfection. Cook played with positive intent, and employed the right technique in handling R Ashwin and Pragyan Ojha in the second innings. He attacked with confidence to disconcert the spin duo, and good use of the feet forced Ashwin and Ojha to pitch short frequently, allowing Cook to use the depth of the crease to plunder runs. He played Ashwin for the turn when in doubt, as one should on a turner when the ball spins away from the bat. A straighter delivery is not likely to cause too many issues. Moreover, bowling a straighter one on a turner is easier said than done, which meant that Ashwin had to disguise his carom ball exceptionally well. In his bid to get the ball to turn and jump more, Ashwin did exactly the wrong thing by getting his alignment way past side on – his front leg going way too far across the right leg – which resulted in him finishing his follow through in the direction of cover. He needs to get his front leg far straighter in order to get the other bowling elements like release of the ball, transfer of weight and follow through right. That will produce turn, nip and bounce. Besides, a proper alignment will guarantee a consistent line as well. Graeme Swann does get his front leg across too but his run up to the wicket is much quicker, which offsets his other negatives to a certain extent. Ashwin will need to realise that wickets cannot be had in a hurry in every innings despite his impressive strike rate in home Tests. The presence of Harbhajan Singh in the squad will perhaps create a wee bit of extra zeal as well. As the lead spinner, Ashwin needs to ensure that he bowls to bowl well and not get too keyed up about bowling for wickets, as the wily former great Erapalli Prasanna is fond of saying. Ashwin did that in the first innings, which brought him rewards, but yielding to the temptation to surpass himself can prove to be detrimental. The need to stick to the basics is even more critical on a turner, because the deviation from the surface provides batsmen the opportunity to create angles and score runs. As such, the margin of error for spinners is less on turners, contrary to popular assumption that they can get away with some loose stuff. Cook and Prior have shown the way for England, and it remains to be seen if the other batsmen can emulate them in the upcoming Tests. On the other hand, it will be interesting to see the approach of the Indian spinners as well.
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