KeyboardWarrior Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 on topic [ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_flwe7Hy48[/ame]
Swing_n_Speed Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 All the candle light marches and the protests are nothing but farce. These idiots went there with their cameras and took pictures of themselves and loaded it in facebook and they were updating it every 5 mins. Also their eagerness to speak to media was nothing but just a big joke. Also the college boys went there to have some good time with girls, its fun for most of them. Only few people went there with real motivation of protesting without any publicity. Sad but true. What pissed me off the most were images of the Bangalore protests were student taking part in the protests were actually laughing like as though this was some field trip.
Tiger80 Posted January 8, 2013 Author Posted January 8, 2013 If everone started treating their subordinates better then we'll soon see the society changing. Everone wants the government and the judiciary to change but are not ready to change themselves. +1 Instead of discussing legitimate points raised by victim's friends ,news channels are discussing what Bapu Asaram said .Keep on good work media you very well know how to make people Chewtiya ,keep up the good work
vvvslaxman Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/protester-against-rape-dies-after-selfimmolation/1055794/ sad
EnterTheVoid Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 When people were in a position to help, they choose to look away and turned a blind eye. Now that she is no longer with us, people cry about the loss of humanity. Had this happened in Melbourne, I can guarantee with 99.999999% certainty people would have stopped and did whatever they could in their power to help. I don't know about the apathy foreigners display towards Indians but the general level of apathy Indians display towards one another is shocking to say the least.
surajmal Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 When people were in a position to help, they choose to look away and turned a blind eye. Now that she is no longer with us, people cry about the loss of humanity. Had this happened in Melbourne, I can guarantee with 99.999999% certainty people would have stopped and did whatever they could in their power to help. I don't know about the apathy foreigners display towards Indians but the general level of apathy Indians display towards one another is shocking to say the least. Hope the irony isn't lost on you.
EnterTheVoid Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 Not it is not. I know exactly what you are alluding to and I will still stick by what I said.
EnterTheVoid Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 Willful Hypocrisy...:hatsoff: I am aware of the context you are referring to but I will stick by what I said. You will just have to agree to disagree.
Prakat Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 non-violence for a rape victim is downright demented' date=' immoral and inhuman.[/quote'] You have misread the strategy to make it easier to argue against. The idea is, when you can see that physical struggle will be fruitless the best thing is to not to fight it but depend on your mental toughness to get through the time while observing important details to be used later to bring the perps to justice. Now, how and why is it demented, immoral (?) or inhuman?
seedhi Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 You have misread the strategy to make it easier to argue against. The idea is, when you can see that physical struggle will be fruitless the best thing is to not to fight it but depend on your mental toughness to get through the time while observing important details to be used later to bring the perps to justice. Now, how and why is it demented, immoral (?) or inhuman?By non-violence I mean no physical resistance in any circumstances - which is what Gandhi advocated. According to him (as I quoted earlier in this thread) the victim and her (male) friend should not fight the offender, but instead entreat and plead with him. Everyone can have a view about this approach, but for me this is immoral and demented, as it denies the victim her legitimate right to defend herself. By the way, Gandhi also suggested during the partition riots that Hindus and Sikhs should not fight Muslim rioters and allow them to kill and loot at will. Further, he asked the Hindus and Sikhs in pakistan to stay put and willingly bear the brunt of the rioters.
Prakat Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 ^ ok. I was interested only in how your position stands with respect to the strategy we were discussing earlier in the thread.
Crookbond Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 I don't understand why one would discuss tangential topics like Gandhi, Lincoln in this thread unless one has vested interests and is using this topic as a springboard to make a point.
IKnowU Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 I haven't really discussed this issue with anyone, but I would like to put out a blunt opinion. It all starts from the grass roots, you can beetch and whine much as you want against the government, culture. But nothing will change until everyone takes responsibility and lives up to their end of the bargain. Just like the Indian cricket teams failures, this is real life failure. I dont see no difference in between the two. The general public has to stick to its morals 24/7 and not act only for their own benefit, if that day ever comes, the nation can slowly move ahead in the world. Im sure this has already been said/mentioned but would reiterate anyway.
Cevno Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 When people were in a position to help, they choose to look away and turned a blind eye. Now that she is no longer with us, people cry about the loss of humanity. Had this happened in Melbourne, I can guarantee with 99.999999% certainty people would have stopped and did whatever they could in their power to help. I don't know about the apathy foreigners display towards Indians but the general level of apathy Indians display towards one another is shocking to say the least. But the thing is that no one wants to get involved in the mess, and then get troubled by police and also attend court hearings for 20 years. This became a high profile case, so if somebody had helped he would have been a hero, but it wasn't known at time to those guys helping. Let's say it wasn't such a known case and they helped these guys, then there was a good chance that police would have hassled them even. There was a story of a guy who had helped a accident victim, but then had to bribe police 2000 rs because apparently they were hassling him as a witness instead. Sometimes you help a person as a amateur, then you won't be able to help them properly in terms of first aid and other things. Police will go and hassle you for that, and try and get money out. Then if you pick these guys up ? Where'd you take them ? To the nearest private hospital then who'll pay ? To which government hospital that would be operative at the time ? How is someone supposed to know ? And then if in finding the right hospital something bad happens to the victim, then police will hassle you too ? I agree, that someone should have given them clothes atleast, but it's not as simplistic as everyone needs to look within etc.. There are bloody systematic flaws everywhere. In Australia you'll be a hero for helping someone out, police will probably reward you and then the court case will finish in 3/4 months where you'll be called in as a witness once/twice. Here on the other hand........
veer Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 Some of you guys are amazing by bringing in Gandhi and what not to prove your personal point... dJ-S-9eHrSQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Number Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 Abu Azmi: Wearing skirts lead to rape. And Ayesha Takiya is his daughter in law. :haha:
DomainK Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 Politicians and Godmen in competition for a new low. A whole new personality of India is coming to the fore. After all, these are our leaders.
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