Lord Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Exactly....Too early to rate Pujara and too soon to write-off Kohli going by what he has done so far and that's my whole point.As I said Pujara has not done enough to go above Kohli in the pecking order. he hasnt but thats only because he played lesser matches,not anything else
maniac Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 all im saying here is i think puajra has better chance to do well in south africa then kohli i think kohli is good but pujara is just better at test matches and if u go for technique kohli is far from ideal and fishes ball far to much for my liking and way he played vs junaid wasnt good sight..but i guess he will bounce back... thing with pujara is he deals with things like this so easily...if it swings he just leaves ball away out side off stump ..kohli is still learning how to not get frustrated after 1 tight spell imagine philander,steyn bowling then morke coming.. there wil be times no runs will come and kohli after such passages just throws away his wicket Ok let's not go in circles here....Have you seen Pujara play a substantial innings in conditions condusive for Pace....same goes for Kohli too? What are your thoughts? Have you seen Kohli score runs on slow and low tracks?same goes for Pujara too your answer will give you what I am talking about
maniac Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 he hasnt but thats only because he played lesser matches' date='not anything else[/quote'] Again that's what I am saying...till he gets enough rope,he cannot be rated above Kohli who is like it or not a semi-proven performer at this stage and has been hailed as a bright prospect in every condition....We cannot blatantly say Pujara is better than Kohli just yet.
Old guy Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Did you read my entire post? Did I deny he had a bad series? All I am saying is atleast 'I' have seen enough of Kohli to judge him as an allround player and form judgement on his strengths and weaknesses but can't say the same for Pujara. How does that automatically make Pujara better than Kohli? well i have seen enough of pujara too and i can safely say right now he is better test match batsman.. in my mind htere is no question about it one guy plays swing well other fishes outside off if u swing it both ways one guy dealt with reverse swing well and played well on turner other guy struggled then not to mention throwing wicket away under pressure even if u say he did well in australia imo that 100 came on very easy track..plz dont make it sound like great innings he struggled for most part of tour ..just like vs england
Old guy Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Didn't read. Age: 17 Opinion: Irrelevant Kohli>Pujara. Kohli for captain. Pujara doesn't have enough fire and fighting spirit, like I've said he's not from right region to inherit that. /thread manduck.
maniac Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 well i have seen enough of pujara too and i can safely say right now he is better test match batsman.. in my mind htere is no question about it one guy plays swing well other fishes outside off if u swing it both ways one guy dealt with reverse swing well and played well on turner other guy struggled then not to mention throwing wicket away under pressure even if u say he did well in australia imo that 100 came on very easy track..plz dont make it sound like great innings he struggled for most part of tour ..just like vs england He was our top run getter....Also did you watch the perth test where he got a 70 odd and a 40 odd...that right there was a sign for me. Pujara's 200 against England was good but from what I saw in South africa,his biggest virtue was pateince which indicated he can improve but again even tailenders show grit by hanging around...need to see runs in difficult conditions....I am not writing him off but for the 100th time,too soon to rate him.
Old guy Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 He was our top run getter....Also did you watch the perth test where he got a 70 odd and a 40 odd...that right there was a sign for me. Pujara's 200 against England was good but from what I saw in South africa,his biggest virtue was pateince which indicated he can improve but again even tailenders show grit by hanging around...need to see runs in difficult conditions....I am not writing him off but for the 100th time,too soon to rate him. sigh.. tell me one thing is perth was so hard..why wasnt kohli able to play anderson on indian tracks ?
India-KXIP fan Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 He was our top run getter....Also did you watch the perth test where he got a 70 odd and a 40 odd...that right there was a sign for me. Pujara's 200 against England was good but from what I saw in South africa,his biggest virtue was pateince which indicated he can improve but again even tailenders show grit by hanging around...need to see runs in difficult conditions....I am not writing him off but for the 100th time,too soon to rate him. This lol. Reason why I've already written him off. He showed us he could block a few balls like the tailenders. Probably what he would do in ODI's as well. :giggle:
Old guy Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 This lol. Reason why I've already written him off. He showed us he could block a few balls like the tailenders. Probably what he would do in ODI's as well. :giggle: midjetjot
India-KXIP fan Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Pujara didnt show glimpses of ability in SA? No. Bounced out in one innings for 19. Outclassed by Steyn in the other for 2. The one innings people praise him for was the one where like any tailender he blocked a few balls but managed 10 runs. :cantstop: Future of India... :cantstop:
Old guy Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 No. Bounced out in one innings for 19. Outclassed by Steyn in the other for 2. The one innings people praise him for was the one where like any tailender he blocked a few balls but managed 10 runs. :cantstop: Future of India... :cantstop: do u even know the names of bowlers who dismissed manduck for 0 ?:haha: enough said!
maniac Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 sigh.. tell me one thing is perth was so hard..why wasnt kohli able to play anderson on indian tracks ? Ok I think I am just repeating myself here.... Now we are going in Tangent.....Kohli had a bad series,I get it...if we conclude that he is bad against good seam bowling,we always have Perth to look at....If you say he is susceptible against spin and slow tracks than we have the last Eng test to look at,there is enough data to see that there is potential. With Pujara he has only played good knocks in home conditions....Not enough data to conclude that he is better than Kohli especially at a time where our entire batting line-up has looked like sitting ducks especially overseas. I would like to conclude this by saying Kohli is a work-in-progress and so is Pujara but right now sinbce we have established what Kohli's strengths and weaknesses are,he is slightly ahead above pujara on the fact that Pujara has not played enough games. Since the topic is Kohli my question is do you think Kohli is still a good enough prospect or not?If you think yes-Let us stop right here if not then don't quiet know what you are trying to prove here because I thought you liked Kohli :giggle:
Magneto Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Though I personally dislike Kohli's attitude,not the player...I hope he succeeds...he seems one bright hope among the darkness. Don't rate Pujara highly yet after facing disappointment with Ashwin recently. Kohli has atleast the odd performance overseas so far in challenging conditions...so right now I must say no matter how much I try I am still on the Kohli bandwagon :((. You will jump off soon :two_thumbs_up:
Old guy Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 last test match pitch was flat where dhoni almost scored a ton so i guess he sucks vs spin ? im serious here now last track was flat enough for dhoni and bell ..dont think it counts :P so we cant really conclude he is good at home tbh
maniac Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 You will jump off soon :two_thumbs_up: Please scout the above posts,you might have a potential candidate for a high ranking executive position for your corporation :giggle: Has built a pretty strong cover letter/Posts to support that too
Magneto Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Presently, Ashwin is a better bet than Kohli in Tests.
Old guy Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Presently' date=' Ashwin is a better bet than Kohli in Tests.[/quote'] :giggle:
Magneto Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Please scout the above posts,you might have a potential candidate for a high ranking executive position for your corporation :giggle: Has built a pretty strong cover letter/Posts to support that too He has simply stated the truth ... that Pujara potentially looks like a better Test player than Kohli. And in a year or so, we'll all agree to that as well excepting a few chipmunks.
Lord Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 No. Bounced out in one innings for 19. Outclassed by Steyn in the other for 2. The one innings people praise him for was the one where like any tailender he blocked a few balls but managed 10 runs. :cantstop: Future of India... :cantstop: :facepalm: he faced some quality bowling on very tough track n played crucial role in that partnership with Laxman which was vital to win the Test as for runs,unlik Kohli who was fasttracked,Pujara has gone on A tours on these toiurs n made runs there
Lord Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Presently' date=' Ashwin is a better bet than Kohli in Tests.[/quote'] agree:haha:
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