moniker Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Dinesh Karthik, Saha and even Parthiv all have better first class averages than Dhoni though. :dontknow: And Saha is actually a keeper-bat, as it should be, and not the other way round.
Lord Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Avg. 27 in 23 matches with 1 ton. Dhoni's miles better than that. Going by Indian WK standards (not including RD) Dhoni's way ahead. DK opened in SA,Eng,dont forget
Lord Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Dinesh Karthik, Saha and even Parthiv all have better first class averages than Dhoni though. :dontknow: And Saha is actually a keeper-bat, as it should be, and not the other way round. ++
JaFanatic Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Avg. 27 in 23 matches with 1 ton. Dhoni's miles better than that. Going by Indian WK standards (not including RD) Dhoni's way ahead. lol read the post to which i replied dhoni is better and that is what i meant! btw saha may well be a better option if we have a better test captain
SLICKR392 Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 lol read the post to which i replied dhoni is better and that is what i meant! btw saha may well be a better option if we have a better test captain :bow: My bad.
rkt.india Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 DK opened in SA' date='Eng,dont forget[/quote'] didnot not play as a keeper then.
SLICKR392 Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 DK opened in SA' date='Eng,dont forget[/quote'] He performed consistently or pretty well opening in the England Tour '07. Din't make any sort of impact opening in the game in other games with few twitchy 50s. Having more FC avg. has got nothing to do on how they perform in the national level. Parthiv was supposed to be a good WK-Bat and failed. Saha might do good as well but I don't see him being consistent enough. I'm not saying Dhoni is a consistent batsman but 'currently' our best or only wk/bat.
express bowling Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Dhoni's biggest advantage is he plays the short ball really well. He is a good player of spin too. He was a good keeper but these days he seems to have injured fingers most of the time and keeps dropping normal deliveries too. This is obviously as a result of playing continuously, without break. As a test captain he is obviously not good tactically. We need to find a better test captain but as a test wicketkeeper-batman he is still the best bet perhaps. On the other hand, Dhoni is a living legend in LOIs. One of the best LOI batsman ever and a match-winner per excellence. In order to preserve him for ODIs , we may look for a test keeper, in which version he is average.
Lord Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 didnot not play as a keeper then. yes,we r talking of thier batting here I think
SLICKR392 Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 yes' date='we r talking of thier batting here I think[/quote'] At which he has done considerably well down the order and someone who usually bats with the tail but he clearly doesn't give Test an importance over ODIs.
Lord Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 He performed consistently or pretty well opening in the England Tour '07. Din't make any sort of impact opening in the game in other games with few twitchy 50s. Having more FC avg. has got nothing to do on how they perform in the national level. Parthiv was supposed to be a good WK-Bat and failed. Saha might do good as well but I don't see him being consistent enough. I'm not saying Dhoni is a consistent batsman but 'currently' our best or only wk/bat. he was doing well upto England tour.had one bad series against Pak and was dropped forever. FC average has everything to do with it,how else you judge them.Parthiv's major problem is his keeping,not batting
rkt.india Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 yes' date='we r talking of thier batting here I think[/quote'] But how batting comes in picture when he did not play as a WK/bat. He should then be compared to batsmen, not be talked as WK/bat..
Lord Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 But how batting comes in picture when he did not play as a WK/bat. He should then be compared to batsmen' date=' not be talked as WK/bat..[/quote'] hes a WK/bat anyway.didnt WK only because Dhoni was there.how should that matter.otherwise hes a regular WK in FC/Tests anyway he did WK in the test in which Dhoni was injured.made 50 opening too IIRC
saneindian Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 DK was dropped for accommodating Yuvraj Singh in the middle order with RD opening in the 1st 2 tests in Australia. Sehwag never allowed him to comeback once he got his spot back. Same with jaffer who lost his spot to Gauti and has been away ever since.
rkt.india Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 hes a WK/bat anyway.didnt WK only because Dhoni was there.how should that matter.otherwise hes a regular WK in FC/Tests anyway he did WK in the test in which Dhoni was injured.made 50 opening too IIRC matters a lot. Otherwise likes of Sangakara and Andy Flower would not have turned just batsmen from WK/batsmen in test cricket.
rkt.india Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 DK was dropped for accommodating Yuvraj Singh in the middle order with RD opening in the 1st 2 tests in Australia. Sehwag never allowed him to comeback once he got his spot back. Same with jaffer who lost his spot to Gauti and has been away ever since. Not just because Yuvraj. Remember, It was Shoaib who ended his career as a test opener, not Yuvraj. He could not handle pace of Shoaib even on flat tracks.
Lord Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 matters a lot. Otherwise likes of Sangakara and Andy Flower would not have turned just batsmen from WK/batsmen in test cricket. they did it permanently.DK still keeps wicket in FC
Lord Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Not just because Yuvraj. Remember' date=' It was Shoaib who ended his career as a test opener, not Yuvraj. He could not handle pace of Shoaib even on flat tracks.[/quote'] one bad series.handling Anderson in England is tougher for me and he did okay
rkt.india Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 they did it permanently.DK still keeps wicket in FC Sangakara left keeping a long time back and averages less than 40 as a WK/bat. Flower too left keeping to concentrate on batting.
rkt.india Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 one bad series.handling Anderson in England is tougher for me and he did okay He struggled against pace of Akhtar.
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