CSK Fan Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Wow' date=' and all the while guys like MTC were vouching for the cops that there has to be fixing involved to nab a guy like Meiyappan and that players must be involved.[/quote'] Know what I was constantly trying to tell you was, the bigger issue of an owner betting is conflict of interest which is as bad as fixing. Something any salaried, employed person will know about
hhunaeh Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 Conspiracy against me by anti-South lobby: Srinivasan :cantstop::cantstop: CHENNAI: BCCI president N Srinivasan on Friday said the charges made against him and his family were part of a conspiracy by a north Indian lobby in the cricket body to malign south Indians and Tamils in particular. Asked about a tweet by Janata Party chief Subramanian Swamy, who alleged that a north Indian lobby was targeting south Indians in the BCCI, Srinivasan said it was obvious. "It is an open secret that there is a conspiracy against south Indians," he said in an interview to a Tamil TV channel. Forced to step aside for 'interim president' Jagmohan Dalmiya over the spot-fixing scandal and betting allegations against his son-in-law and former Chennai Super Kings principal Gurunath Meiyappan, Srinivasan said: "There is no charge against me but a lobby within the BCCI, which wanted to head the organisation but failed, has worked behind scenes to malign me. I will answer any number of questions. I have also the numbers within the BCCI. The truth will come out soon." Srinivasan said the BCCI had no connections with bookies and he was shocked when Rajasthan Royals player S Sreesanth was linked to the betting scandal. "Gurunath, for all the charges levelled against him, did not flee to another country," he said. "I have trust in him and believe that he will come out unscathed. The charges against him will be disproved." Hitting out at the media for its coverage of the case, Srinivasan said: "There is absolutely no truth in the charges levelled against Gurunath." :cantstop::cantstop:
someone Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 ^^^^ Now, that's some BS. And being the head on an Indian board, it's disappointing from him. And, I doubt it's only Srini. India is really not a united country as there are many who talks about states conspiracies. ( Although, some might be true as well)
someone Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 One thing which is found surprising is everyone from any walks of life has come out to be critical of these cricketers. I mean like the politicians, lawyers, police have said they are surprised by this fixing and it deserves no place in India and all accused should be punished. But then, they themselves have such a poor record, these politicians, lawyers, police have been guilty of severe corruption, cheating yet they think they deserve the right to be critical of others? Such as UPA party members talking about no tolerance approach and yet they forget that in their own party system. And then the idea that Srini has alienated the cricket fan is absurd.
PriyankaSR Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 evil northies :finger: :mad: Northies aren't evil. :orderorder:
bulbul Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 No wonder CSK supporters are die hard supporters if this Seeni guy. This regionalism nonsense is what taking this country back.
yoda Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 No wonder CSK supporters are die hard supporters if this Seeni guy. This regionalism nonsense is what taking this country back. What is taking the country back is blind hate for people with no common sense. Throw the guy in jail, throw the team out, don't give him bail, he must be lying, he must have bribed, ... which spawns more hate in retaliation.
Malcolm Merlyn Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 Now play the regionalism card.No doubt the csk fans love him. Sent from my GT-I9103 using Tapatalk 2
bulbul Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 What is taking the country back is blind hate for people with no common sense. Throw the guy in jail' date=' [b']throw the team out, don't give him bail, he must be lying, he must have bribed, ... which spawns more hate in retaliation. Just asking the rule to be followed , we didn't made the rule & there are 2 teams already thrown out for different reasons and rules. Whatever you can blabber ,its very clear who is hypocrite & biased. Your blind love of all thing Seeni is bit suspicious :winky:
jalebi_bhai Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 Conspiracy against me by anti-South lobby: Srinivasan :cantstop::cantstop: CHENNAI: BCCI president N Srinivasan on Friday said the charges made against him and his family were part of a conspiracy by a north Indian lobby in the cricket body to malign south Indians and Tamils in particular. Asked about a tweet by Janata Party chief Subramanian Swamy, who alleged that a north Indian lobby was targeting south Indians in the BCCI, Srinivasan said it was obvious. "It is an open secret that there is a conspiracy against south Indians," he said in an interview to a Tamil TV channel. Forced to step aside for 'interim president' Jagmohan Dalmiya over the spot-fixing scandal and betting allegations against his son-in-law and former Chennai Super Kings principal Gurunath Meiyappan, Srinivasan said: "There is no charge against me but a lobby within the BCCI, which wanted to head the organisation but failed, has worked behind scenes to malign me. I will answer any number of questions. I have also the numbers within the BCCI. The truth will come out soon." Srinivasan said the BCCI had no connections with bookies and he was shocked when Rajasthan Royals player S Sreesanth was linked to the betting scandal. "Gurunath, for all the charges levelled against him, did not flee to another country," he said. "I have trust in him and believe that he will come out unscathed. The charges against him will be disproved." Hitting out at the media for its coverage of the case, Srinivasan said: "There is absolutely no truth in the charges levelled against Gurunath." :cantstop::cantstop: :omg:........Who would've thunk it..... Vilander = Don Sirni.......
Ibes Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 One thing which is found surprising is everyone from any walks of life has come out to be critical of these cricketers. I mean like the politicians, lawyers, police have said they are surprised by this fixing and it deserves no place in India and all accused should be punished. But then, they themselves have such a poor record, these politicians, lawyers, police have been guilty of severe corruption, cheating yet they think they deserve the right to be critical of others? Such as UPA party members talking about no tolerance approach and yet they forget that in their own party system. And then the idea that Srini has alienated the cricket fan is absurd. It was always corporate corruption not the deliberately cheating the millions of fans which blindsided me. Sure RPS might've did Dhoni a solid or an owner/team picking a woeful squad but not fixing with Mafioso. That is too bad actually . All those politicians, lawyers are full of it....they're just getting a free ride of the public rage. Watch some supercop congressman is gonna make this an election issue.
someone Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 Sreesanth’s lawyer points out why Delhi Police’s case is weak The Delhi Police’s apparent confidence on the spot-fixing case against Sreesanth took a severe blow in court on Friday, when the pacer’s lawyer Pinaki Mishra sought to demolish its charges one by one, while seeking bail for the arrested cricketer. Mishra also presented key exhibits such as photographs of matches and bank details to back up his arguments and to pick holes in the Delhi Police’s construction of the story. There was no new evidence against the cricketer other than the circumstantial prima facie charge. The senior lawyer focussed on three key pieces of evidence that the Police has fielded against the cricketer: the use of the towel to signal to the bookies, his extravagant spending and the money trail, and the particular over in which Sreesanth gave away 13 runs. On the use of the towel, Mishra said it was not unusual for a cricketer to use a towel to wipe off sweat while playing in hot conditions where the temperature can range from 38-42 degree Celsius. In the match in which he allegedly fixed an over, it was not just Sreesanth who used a towel; even Rahul Dravid was seen using one. More over, Sreesanth is a fast bowler who bowls at about 136 km/h, the lawyer pointed out. Targetting the police’s towel theory further, Mishra said it was not just in this particular IPL match that Sreesanth has used a towel. He could be seen using it in many test matches in the past as well. Mishra presented pictures of some of these test matches to support his argument. Referring to the exercises that he did prior to an over, allegedly to signal to the bookies, he said fast bowlers stretching and bending before a spell is nothing unusual. Sreesanth has some superstitious beliefs, which he sticks to in the field. He even has a particular way of tying his shoelace. Another key argument of the defence lawyer was against the police charge that the pacer willfully gave away 14 runs. He said Sreesanth gave only five runs in the first four balls of the said over, out of which two were dot-balls. If he had conspired to cheat, would he have taken the risk of giving away nine runs in the last two balls? For nine runs in two balls, one should have gone for a six. Would he have risked it if he had agreed to fix his over? His fifth ball in the over was short pitched and a difficult one to score a six. It was purely because of a skilful batsman like Gilchrist that it went for a four. The next ball was on the offside, which was packed with fielders. Here again, only a player like Gilchrist could have hit it for four. Sreesanth’s economy rate in the IPL was nine and giving away 13 runs was not a big deviation. If a fast bowler is compromised, he could bowl loose or throw a no-ball or wide. Sreesanth had done nothing of that, the lawyer pointed out. Mishra also demolished the police theory on the money trail – that the money the cricketer spent on parties and shopping was from the bookies. He argued that all the money that the cricketer had spent on the parties was from his own account. Bank records show that he had withdrawn Rs 10,000 each five times in two days. The other transactions were done online and using debit cards. Sreesanth does like to party, but it is not illegal to party using one’s own money, the lawyer argued. Mishra also argued that although the police allege that he had spoken to bookies, no evidence has been presented so far. Just because they recovered a mobile phone, does he become a criminal? One of the top lawyers of Kerala High Court, Advocate Ramkumar was also present in the court to support the arguments against Sreesanth. The argument will continue at the Additional Sessions Court in Saket on Monday. www.firstpost.com/sports/sreesanths-lawyer-points-out-why-delhi-polices-case-is-weak-853637.html Some solid points, DD police do look sloppy as ever.
1983-2011 Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 Some solid points' date=' DD police do look sloppy as ever.[/quote'] they were more busy running to the media
I6MTW Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 The problem is that Sreesanth has on and off admitted and then denied several times.
saneindian Posted June 8, 2013 Author Posted June 8, 2013 And the DP has pressed MCOCA charges against Sreesanth. :facepalm: They could not file a chargesheet in the 2000 fixing case, will not be surprising to see them repeat that in this case as well.
yoda Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 DD and MI police competing against each other to show who can make up more charges. MI went after people who bet, trying desperately to prove that they also fixed, committed forgery and cheated people. DD police found people who did fix matches and made them into associates of underworld terrorists. Now coming back to Sree's case, if there is no direct evidence of him talking with bookies or other players of fixing matches, not letting him out even on bail is absolute travesty. On top of that, slapping MCOCA on him is preposterous with such flimsy evidence and makes a mockery of such a powerful tool. That said, he was found with the other accused players and they in turn did fix. Also, he does seem to have bookie friends and seems to have taken favors like girls from the same bookies. Did he get all that for free?
CSK Fan Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 One thing which is found surprising is everyone from any walks of life has come out to be critical of these cricketers. I mean like the politicians, lawyers, police have said they are surprised by this fixing and it deserves no place in India and all accused should be punished. But then, they themselves have such a poor record, these politicians, lawyers, police have been guilty of severe corruption, cheating yet they think they deserve the right to be critical of others? Such as UPA party members talking about no tolerance approach and yet they forget that in their own party system. And then the idea that Srini has alienated the cricket fan is absurd. Why do you find this surprising? We love our cricket, that's why we are a part of this cricket forum and not on some political forum discussing this. Everyone in this country is obsessed with cricket and has invested lots of emotions into it The fact is, we have given up on our politics and politicians. We expect them to be corrupt. On the other hand, cricket and cricketers still carry a lot of respect and we look up to them. In such a scenario, the outrage is completely justifiable. But don't worry, soon you might have your wish, when cricket and cricketers too would be looked upon as hopeless as politicians and not respected anymore. In that case, no one will bat an eyelid when a new scandal emerges in cricket
CSK Fan Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 DD and MI police competing against each other to show who can make up more charges. MI went after people who bet, trying desperately to prove that they also fixed, committed forgery and cheated people. DD police found people who did fix matches and made them into associates of underworld terrorists. Now coming back to Sree's case, if there is no direct evidence of him talking with bookies or other players of fixing matches, not letting him out even on bail is absolute travesty. On top of that, slapping MCOCA on him is preposterous with such flimsy evidence and makes a mockery of such a powerful tool. That said, he was found with the other accused players and they in turn did fix. Also, he does seem to have bookie friends and seems to have taken favors like girls from the same bookies. Did he get all that for free? Because we do know that the towel was used and those runs were given. That's all I as a cricket fan care about. I don't care about the legal technicalities or the jail sentence. I know that a certain player has ruined cricket here. As I have said before an owner betting on his own team/league is as bad as fixing. Of course you have not understood this in the past and so I don't expect you to understand now either
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