omkarkiran Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 anyways.. The disco was on Broad.. with my post it turned on to Sachin & Gilly.. sorry about that.. back on to topic plz.. :)
Crookbond Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 umpire referred to Leg umpire for clean catch and not given out' date=' he could have taken help of third umpire.. [b']I don't see any nick in that video.. its just an aussie who created that video with that search title.. CB series 2008 had no DRS and if that went to the 3rd umpire - it would have been OUT. You must be kidding me if you do not see any nick there. I do not see any reason why the nationality of the uploader is relevant to the discussion. Din't Sachin walk during the WC against Rampaul? Yes - he did.
omkarkiran Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 CB series 2008 had no DRS and if that went to the 3rd umpire - it would have been OUT. You must be kidding me if you do not see any nick there. I do not see any reason why the nationality of the uploader is relevant to the discussion. DRS is for Players.. but umpire could refer on his own to third umpire if he wants some assistance to take decision on it.. there was some noise.. but still my point was.. many times even I play cricket, we cannot feel some of the nicks, I felt this is one of that case.. anyways.. I used nationality on lighter note.. as most of the Aussies hates domination of India on their teams.. so, I thought it would be also the same way to mislead or show the world that other players are wrong or something like that.. no offense to anyone.. I didn't mean it too personal.. I apologies if anyone hurts with that comment.
Crookbond Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 DRS is for Players.. but umpire could refer on his own to third umpire if he wants some assistance to take decision on it.. there was some noise.. but still my point was.. many times even I play cricket, we cannot feel some of the nicks, I felt this is one of that case.. anyways.. I used nationality on lighter note.. as most of the Aussies hates domination of India on their teams.. so, I thought it would be also the same way to mislead or show the world that other players are wrong or something like that.. no offense to anyone.. I didn't mean it too personal.. I apologies if anyone hurts with that comment. First, the umpires then could NOT refer technology for edges. Second of all, this discussion was on Tendulkar not walking - you may have a point that Tendulkar wouldn't have felt the edge out there and you may be right but there's no way to know. For now, it seems like Tendulkar did not walk even when there was a nick. Btw, there is another incident of Tendulkar not walking after a bat-pad (the ball hit the glove), of Saqlain Mushtaq IIRC in the Dhaka Independence Cup 1998. There's no way Tendulkar wouldn't have known the ball did not hit his glove. This is the same series where Hrishikesh Kanitkar hit a boundary to deliver a win of the final over to India.
adi B Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Din't Sachin walk during the WC against Rampaul? the heat was too much,thought it was better to sit in the air conditioned dressing room hence he walked maybe without even nicking it :winky:
vamos_rafa Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Sachin has been a selective walker. He walks sometimes and sometimes has skipped it.
vamos_rafa Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Sound of shoe lace hitting the bat :hmmmm: that must have been preetty loud. Difficult for umpire to miss. Yes. It hit the tip of the shoe lace(the plastice part) and simultaneously the ball got past the bat. It was difficult to judge even for the batsman.
vamos_rafa Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 the heat was too much' date='thought it was better to sit in the air conditioned dressing room hence he walked maybe without even nicking it :winky:[/quote'] Maybe he walked coz DRS was there. He knew it would have been referred and he would have been given out either ways.
vamos_rafa Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 First, the umpires then could NOT refer technology for edges. Second of all, this discussion was on Tendulkar not walking - you may have a point that Tendulkar wouldn't have felt the edge out there and you may be right but there's no way to know. For now, it seems like Tendulkar did not walk even when there was a nick. Btw, there is another incident of Tendulkar not walking after a bat-pad (the ball hit the glove), of Saqlain Mushtaq IIRC in the Dhaka Independence Cup 1998. There's no way Tendulkar wouldn't have known the ball did not hit his glove. This is the same series where Hrishikesh Kanitkar hit a boundary to deliver a win of the final over to India. Again not necessary. I can recall only glimpses of this incident, but the upper part of glove is soft. so, if it touches it on the way up, it becomes difficult to know. Again, I am not defending Sachin. He has been a selective walker.
Crookbond Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 With all this walking non-sense, would not walking amount to not giving your all for the team. :hmmm: Particularly, since we know that DRS is "moody" at times.
Crookbond Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Again not necessary. I can recall only glimpses of this incident, but the upper part of glove is soft. so, if it touches it on the way up, it becomes difficult to know. Again, I am not defending Sachin. He has been a selective walker. Fair enough - but I felt that in THAT case there was a higher probability of Tendulkar knowing than not knowing.
vamos_rafa Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 With all this walking non-sense' date=' would not walking amount to not giving your all for the team. :hmmm: Particularly, since we know that DRS is "moody" at times.[/quote'] This whole concept of walking non-walking is cr@ppy. As a sportsman, you got to accept the wrong decisions from the umpire so you will always be lucky. No batsman can be upheld for not walking.
bulbul Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 If a batsman walked when umpire not given him out , isnt it showing dissent at umpires decision :hmmm:
rkt.india Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 This whole concept of walking non-walking is cr@ppy. As a sportsman, you got to accept the wrong decisions from the umpire so you will always be lucky. No batsman can be upheld for not walking. Agree.
The Outsider Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 I remember once against Pakistan, Sachin walked for a caught behind. The bowler was Actor. The ball touched his gloves and was caught by the wicket keeper. But the replays clearly showed that at the moment of contact with the ball, his hand was not touching the bat. So he was not out. Now find me a guy who has walked off when he is not out :phehehe: Scared of Actor I guess :vroam: Once Gilchrist walked against Bangladesh after he thought he had edged it to slip. Replays showed that the ball had hit a crack and thus the exagerrated deviation, but the bat was nowhere near the ball. It was this match: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/212253.html http://www.espncricinfo.com/natwestseries/content/story/212374.html Adam Gilchrist has made it a habit of walking without waiting for the umpire's decision when he feels he's out, but his latest act to dismiss himself in the match against Bangladesh on Thursday surprised his captain, the umpire, and the commentators. Gilchrist thought he had edged one from Tapash Baisya to Khaled Mahmud at first slip, but replays clearly showed that the ball had hit the rough outside the off stump and ballooned to first slip, missing the edge of the bat by a long way.
CSK Fan Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Sachin has been a selective walker. He walks sometimes and sometimes has skipped it. Exactly. I have seen him walk once on 97 and once on 92. And I have seen him not walk even on the obvious of edges
CSK Fan Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 I remember once against Pakistan, Sachin walked for a caught behind. The bowler was Actor. The ball touched his gloves and was caught by the wicket keeper. But the replays clearly showed that at the moment of contact with the ball, his hand was not touching the bat. So he was not out. Now find me a guy who has walked off when he is not out :phehehe: Scared of Actor I guess :vroam: There was no way he could have known that his glove just got off the bat
moniker Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 If a batsman walked when umpire not given him out ' date=' isnt it showing dissent at umpires decision :hmmm:[/quote'] ++ :hysterical:
Mark Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 A BBC article on Broad's decision and DRS. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/23328247
Prakat Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 :hysterical::hysterical: It's the ghost who walks! :woot:
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