Michael Vaughan and Andrew Flintoff call for scrapping of DRS

[1983-2011]

London: Former England captains Michael Vaughan and Andrew Flintoff have called for the controversial Decision Review System (DRS) should be scrapped by the ICC in the wake of further occurrences during the ongoing Ashes. At the centre of controversy during the historic England-Australia rivalry is the inconsistency of DRS, part of which is Hotspot thermal imaging technology. The most blatant errors during the Ashes were the dismissals of Australia batsman Usman Khawaja during the second Test at Old Trafford and Kevin Pietersen in the recent Old Trafford Test. Khwaja was given out caught behind despite a review of the television pictures and Hotspot which showed no convincing evidence of a nick off the bat, and subsequently Cricket Australia requested an explanation from the ICC over the dismissal. Pietersen was ruled caught behind on the last day of the third Test when there was no perceived mark in the Hotspot when he went referred the decision. Pietersen later tweeted his anger. Following allegations that Pietersen and other England batsmen in the Ashes tried to mislead the Hotspot technology by putting silicone tape on the edge of their bats, Flintoff came to his former team-mate's defence. "I've never been a fan from the start. I'd just scrap it and move on," the 2005 Ashes hero said on BBC Radio Five Live. "These accusations with the stickers on the bats seem ridiculous. They've asked them and they've said they don't use them." Echoing Flintoff was his former captain Vaughan, who in the Daily Telegraph called for the DRS to be taken off. "One of the big talking points in this series has been the Decision Review System. The players have lost trust in Hot Spot. The umpires have, the crowd have, and so have we. So I would get rid of it. We are not seeing enough right decisions," Vaughan wrote in his column for the English daily. Flintoff, who since retiring from cricket has tried his hand at becoming a professional boxer, also defended the England players who were pictured smoking after the Ashes were secured. "When I started playing for England there were seven or eight smokers in the dressing room so it's something that's been there, people have smoked for a long time. Having a crafty cigarette after a few beers is nothing new to a lot of people," he said. On England spinner Monty Panesar, who this week was fined by police for urinating while drunk on the heads of nightclub bouncers in Brighton, Flintoff said: "Monty's a great lad and in the time I knew him and the time I spent with him on tour Monty didn't even drink so that's a bit of a surprise."

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/cricketnext/michael-vaughan-and-andrew-flintoff-call-for-scrapping-of-drs/412759-78.html

[1983-2011]

does anyone know what was vaughan's opinion on DRS before this Ashes series?

[1983-2011]

anyone remember this incident

"Has Vaseline on the outside edge saved the day for Laxman?" "I think their [sic] has been a slight over reaction to Vaseline gate... Taken to court!!!?? Sense of humour required for many I think..."

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/jul/31/michael-vaughan-twitter-vaseline

[SLICKR392]

^Never seen him support it, TBH. I recall J.Agnew opposing DRS as well.

[1983-2011]

DRS: Michael Vaughan wants firm ICC stance with India - 26 June 2012

Former England captain Michael Vaughan says the International Cricket Council must take a firm stance with India over mandatory video technology. The ICC want the Decision Review System used in all international matches but the Indian Cricket Board is opposed. "The BCCI continues to believe that the system is not foolproof," they said. But on BBC Radio 5 live's Tuffers and Vaughan show, Vaughan said: "The ICC has to show authority and say to India this is happening, get used to it." The DRS was first introduced in a Test match between New Zealand and Pakistan in November 2009 but it remains at the discretion of boards hosting matches, with both teams having to comply. Sri Lanka opted to use the technology during their home series against England, but not for the current series against Pakistan, prompting criticism from Pakistan coach Dav Whatmore. India refused to allow it for last summer's series in England, in which they failed to win a Test or one-day international, and are expected to dismiss it again when they host England for four Tests, five ODIs and a Twenty20 international from November-January. But Vaughan said: "I think it works wonderfully well around all the different formats. England, in particular Andrew Strauss, have got used to it and is very clever with it. "It's there to get rid of the blunder. Over time it has proven to be very, very good. India need to get with the real world and get on with it because they're ruining it. "They are almost a little bit egotistical and saying 'you can't tell us what to do' and I think it's about time the ICC said 'you've got to listen to us because it's going to happen'." "Sachin [Tendulkar] doesn't like it and Sachin is a massive player in the Indian dressing room and with the Indian hierarchy. He is probably telling them it's not good for the game and I guess they're just going what with he thinks. "I think the ICC has to stamp down and say 'I'm afraid India it's going to be mandatory, the DRS will be in place for every single series that you play in, get on with it.'"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/18591921

[G_B_]

In general the TMS crew of Angew Blowfield Vaughan etc or radio commentators have always been against the DRS. They are the traditionalist who view umpires call as final. The exception is Simon Hughes who believes in DRS. But he is not hardline in his views for it. Its the sky cricket crew who are the DRS fanatics. This is exactly what i mean by you cannot judge English media what the sky chavs do or say

[G_B_]

On the issue of Vaughan. He has always been anti Hotspot from the day it was introduced. In his opinion DRS should be used to eliminate howlers and not faint edges. So i think he prefers we used slow motion to check if there is a clear deviation (howler)

[Fontaine]

I think the real question here is "Who the hell cares what Michael Vaughn thinks?"

[maverick451]

The DRS works fine, its just the hotpot system that doesnt work, snicko needs to be introduced, even if you have to wait a minute or 2. Its very simple, Hotspot doesnt always pick up small nicks therefore: A hot spot mark should only be used to prove that the batsmen hit the ball and the adsence of hotspot mark shouldnt make a 3rd umpire overturn a caught behind decision. I.E if a batmen is given out Caught behind it should only be overturned if the replays shows clearly he didnt hit it, even if there is no hotspot mark.

[G_B_]

point is the hotspot system is 1/3 of the system..... thats a big flaw right there.

[The Realist]

I think the real question here is "Who the hell cares what Michael Vaughn thinks?"

Agree, he is incredibly annoying. And the English and hypocrisy go together hand-in-hand like turds and flies.

[vayuu1]

It shows the double standards from Vaughn,I mean when its to their advantage,fine it's the best thing since condom,when it's against you the system is garbage.

[CSK Fan]

It shows the double standards from Vaughn' date='I mean when its to their advantage,fine it's the best thing since condom,when it's against you the system is garbage.[/quote'] Or he might have just changed his mind on seeing the evidence

[King Tendulkar]

Srini was right. Who would have thought!!!:hysterical:

[KFC_Zinger]

Srini was right. Who would have thought!!!:hysterical:

Seriously man, how times change..... A month back everyone was cussing BCCI and now all this....... i am loving it though...:haha::haha::haha:

[maverick451]

Srini was right. Who would have thought!!!:hysterical:

Hotspot has been shown to very good at showing inside edges on lbw decisions, to get rid of it just because its not 100% doesnt make an ounce of sense when the alternative is far less accurate. All weve learnt is that hotspot doesnt always show faint edges but as a say the umpires eye used to miss huge inside edges on lbs decisions.

[carnish]

Hotspot has been shown to very good at showing inside edges on lbw decisions, to get rid of it just because its not 100% doesnt make an ounce of sense when the alternative is far less accurate. All weve learnt is that hotspot doesnt always show faint edges but as a say the umpires eye used to miss huge inside edges on lbs decisions.

Those huge edges can be seen by the naked eyes on replays ... Implement DRS without technology and save the costs which most boards are not able top afford anyweyzz.

[King Tendulkar]

Well when ever India played expecially against england, the eng media mentioned drs virtually every sentence to hammer India. Now the same media is calling for DRS not to be discussed as its distracting from the cricket. ****.@ers.

[Sean Bradley]

BCCI sensed this at a very early stage and now slowly the world is discovering the myths behind DRS, Kudos to BCCI, no wonder they rule World Cricket :hatsoff:

[diga]

BCCI sensed this at a very early stage and now slowly the world is discovering the myths behind DRS' date=' Kudos to BCCI, no wonder they rule World Cricket :hatsoff:[/quote'] more exactly Sachin