Brian Lara a cut above Sachin Tendulkar, Ricky Ponting: Shahid Afridi

[saneindian]

This is true with most of the players, Sehwag, Waugh, Cullinan, Ponting etc. everyone infact Inzi and Anwar were better than Sachin on their day. But to be Sachin Tendulkar, you do not need a particular day or particular game you need a consistent and glorified career of 23 years. Afridi's personal opinion so no problem with that but the only thing is that he made this assumption of Lara being the best batsman to whom he has bowled is on the basis of 2 Test MAtches he has played against him. Just 2 Test and out of the 4 innings of those 2 test he himself took Lara's wicket in one of the iinnings of first test and LAra was out on 0 in the second inning of second test so precisely he has made this assumption on basis of 2 innings. With Afridi anything is possible.

And the 15 ODIs where Lara killed Pakistan. In those 15 ODIs, Lara scored 611 runs@56 with 2 100s and SR of 87. And its funny you didn't mention Lara hitting 2 100s in each of those 2 tests he played vs Afridi.

[putrevus]

And that's what made Sachin a greater batsman to me. He could always find ways to score runs even when he was not playing his A game.

that is one way of looking at things. Other way is if they are both playing their A game who would you take, I would take Lara anytime over Sachin in that scenario.

[vamos_rafa]

that is one way of looking at things. Other way is if they are both playing their A game who would you take, I would take Lara anytime over Sachin in that scenario.

You can't keep on playing your A game all the time. There would be faces when one needs to scrape through. That's where Sachin scores. He could be as good as Lara(if not better) in his A game, but was always better when it came to grafting or getting through tough situations. I think Sachin's much more tighter technique served him well in such scenraios. But, as you said, its personal opinion.

[Debutant]

that is one way of looking at things. Other way is if they are both playing their A game who would you take, I would take Lara anytime over Sachin in that scenario.

According to this logic, best batsmen in the world is none other than Retard because on his day he can score a 37 ball hundred that even Lara cannot do. Great

[putrevus]

You can't keep on playing your A game all the time. There would be faces when one needs to scrape through. That's where Sachin scores. He could be as good as Lara(if not better) in his A game, but was always better when it came to grafting or getting through tough situations. I think Sachin's much more tighter technique served him well in such scenraios. But, as you said, its personal opinion.

It is your personal opinion that is fine, I rather have a batsman who I know when is on for a series can reel of 600 to 700 runs or score double hundred and hundred in same match.

[Temujin Khaghan]

everyone has their own opinion there were many greats and legends like bradman, benaud, waugh and lara himself who said that sachin was the best. even lara is one of the greatest of the game and its obvious that he will have many fans... but what i dont like is when people equate ponting with lara and sachin... its unacceptable 1)sachin - lara 2)ponting - kallis (as a batsman) - dravid ===

[putrevus]

According to this logic' date=' best batsmen in the world is none other than Retard because on his day he can score a 37 ball hundred that even Lara cannot do. Great[/quote'] Lara is no chop liver, he scored 11k runs and 34 hundreds. Mentioning retard's 37 ball hundred is great logic.:winky:

[Number]

everyone has their own opinion there were many greats and legends like bradman, benaud, waugh and lara himself who said that sachin was the best. even lara is one of the greatest of the game and its obvious that he will have many fans... but what i dont like is when people equate ponting with lara and sachin... its unacceptable 1)sachin - lara 2)ponting - kallis (as a batsman) - dravid ===

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[Debutant]

Lara is no chop liver, he scored 11k runs and 34 hundreds. Mentioning retard's 37 ball hundred is great logic.:winky:

I said ON HIS DAY Retard is capable of things which none others are. He should be the best batsman as he is better than all other ON HIS DAY. Isn't that why you rate Lara better than SRT because Lara is better than Sachin ON HIS DAY

[Raghav_12]

Even Afretard's comment can trigger such candid discussion on ICF...lol..

[Debutant]

Lara is no chop liver' date=' [b']he scored 11k runs and 34 hundreds. Mentioning retard's 37 ball hundred is great logic.:winky:

So Lara was just another good Compiler of Stats :haha::haha:

[vijay50]

Another paki junk who wants to be in limelight. Have you ever seen pakis praising any Indian cricketers. How about I say that Yusuf Pathan is better than Afridi.

[vvvslaxman]

He was the most difficult batsmen I have bowled to in every format of the game. = Everyone is missing this point. Lara could obliterate spinners at will.

[Khalpat]

He was the most difficult batsmen I have bowled to in every format of the game. = Everyone is missing this point. Lara could obliterate spinners at will.

With Lara, I always had my finger crossed till he scrores first 15-20 runs. After that Lara was real Lara whom we admire, one of the best footworks and range of backfoot shots. But for first 15 runs it was really a torture to see him jumping all along the crease.

[vvvslaxman]

With Lara' date=' I always had my finger crossed till he scrores first 15-20 runs. After that Lara was real Lara whom we admire, one of the best footworks and range of backfoot shots. But for first 15 runs it was really a torture to see him jumping all along the crease.[/quote'] His canning of Kaneria is unforgettable.

[Temujin Khaghan]

His canning of Kaneria is unforgettable.

murali got a pasting too...

[putrevus]

So Lara was just another good Compiler of Stats :haha::haha:

okay

[vvvslaxman]

Lara vs Pakistan with afridi In ODIs 15 matches 611 runs 55.54 avge Strike rate 87.41 2 centuries 1 fifty In Tests 2 tests 331 runs 82.75 avge 80.73 SR!! 2 centuries Sachin vs Pakistan with Afridi In ODIs 46 matches 1690 runs 39.30 avge strike rate 88.43 3 centuries 11 fifties In tests 8 tests 404 runs 31.07 avge 48.26 strike rate Ponting vs Pakistan with Afridi In ODIs 29 matches 938 runs 37.52 avge 74.03 strike rate 1 century 7 fifties In Tests 2 test 236 runs 79.66 avge 62.69 strike rate 1 fifty

[vvvslaxman]

Afridi dominated Punter in ODIs dismissing 9 out of 31 encounters.

[Temujin Khaghan]

Lara vs Pakistan with afridi In ODIs 15 matches 611 runs 55.54 avge Strike rate 87.41 2 centuries 1 fifty In Tests 2 tests 331 runs 82.75 avge 80.73 SR!! 2 centuries Sachin vs Pakistan with Afridi In ODIs 46 matches 1690 runs 39.30 avge strike rate 88.43 3 centuries 11 fifties In tests 8 tests 404 runs 31.07 avge 48.26 strike rate Ponting vs Pakistan with Afridi In ODIs 29 matches 938 runs 37.52 avge 74.03 strike rate 1 century 7 fifties In Tests 2 test 236 runs 79.66 avge 62.69 strike rate 1 fifty

test matches sample is too small... one day sample looks about right...