Cricketics Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Sehwag got out early. The whole crowd in the stadium just had one thing in mind that time. And that was to see Sachin score runs. You could anticipate that there was a time people forgot we had a chase left. There was a buzz to just see Sachin score his hundred. And then he got out. SILENCE. PIN DROP SILENCE IN THE CROWD. GAMBHIR SAW IT ALL. Coming into bat with 0 for 1 and then seeing the crowd go silence when Tendulkar departed with the score just around 30. It could have been easily 40-4 or 5. But it wasn't to be. He carried the youngster Kohli with himself and put INdia out of the dirty of losing yet another MAJOR FINAL. How many times we had messed up in a big final before. He took us out of the mess and made sure we were in a decent position. By the time Kohli got out, lot of work still remained but India had come out of the pressure and Dhoni built on from their and helped India win the world cup. When Gambhir left the scene, India were 223-4. Vande Matram, Chak De India, Jai ho songs had started playing agian which went missing when we were two down early. Gambhir had departed but the feeling was their that world cup is coming home. Gambhir had played one of the best ever knocks under pressure.
BeautifulGame Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 What do you mean by that? 2 different scenarios,when Dhoni came in he had a relatively well-settled partner at the other end. When Gambhir was playing he lost 2 senior partners for next to nothing and he tried to steady ship with a relative rookie. Where did I say Dhoni's innings was poor in the context Gambhir's innings was superior. Don't look at S/R and R/R.20 overs taking it close enough was more important as we had enough power-hitters to follow. Check the way he got out against Aus in QF and then his brainfart in final.He played excellent knocks in both QF and Final but truth is he choked in both of them. Gambhir played an excellent knock not disagreeing but he threw his wkt away with a brainfart at an most important juncture. Even from strong positions teams collapse in finals because of pressure and that was world cup final.Just remember what happened to Eng against us in the CT final.Thats why its essential when u are set u see through.And we needed more that 6 RR for the last 20 overs.
rahulrulezz Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Sehwag got out early. The whole crowd in the stadium just had one thing in mind that time. And that was to see Sachin score runs. You could anticipate that there was a time people forgot we had a chase left. There was a buzz to just see Sachin score his hundred. And then he got out. SILENCE. PIN DROP SILENCE IN THE CROWD. GAMBHIR SAW IT ALL. Coming into bat with 0 for 1 and then seeing the crowd go silence when Tendulkar departed with the score just around 30. It could have been easily 40-4 or 5. But it wasn't to be. He carried the youngster Kohli with himself and put INdia out of the dirty of losing yet another MAJOR FINAL. How many times we had messed up in a big final before. He took us out of the mess and made sure we were in a decent position. By the time Kohli got out, lot of work still remained but India had come out of the pressure and Dhoni built on from their and helped India win the world cup. When Gambhir left the scene, India were 223-4. Vande Matram, Chak De India, Jai ho songs had started playing agian which went missing when we were two down early. Gambhir had departed but the feeling was their that world cup is coming home. Gambhir had played one of the best ever knocks under pressure. EXACTLY!! Imagine Gambhir coming back to this team replacing Rohit and Yuvi/Pujara replacing Kartik... Now thats an awesome team...
adi B Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Sehwag got out early. The whole crowd in the stadium just had one thing in mind that time. And that was to see Sachin score runs. You could anticipate that there was a time people forgot we had a chase left. There was a buzz to just see Sachin score his hundred. And then he got out. SILENCE. PIN DROP SILENCE IN THE CROWD. GAMBHIR SAW IT ALL. Coming into bat with 0 for 1 and then seeing the crowd go silence when Tendulkar departed with the score just around 30. It could have been easily 40-4 or 5. But it wasn't to be. He carried the youngster Kohli with himself and put INdia out of the dirty of losing yet another MAJOR FINAL. How many times we had messed up in a big final before. He took us out of the mess and made sure we were in a decent position. By the time Kohli got out, lot of work still remained but India had come out of the pressure and Dhoni built on from their and helped India win the world cup. When Gambhir left the scene, India were 223-4. Vande Matram, Chak De India, Jai ho songs had started playing agian which went missing when we were two down early. Gambhir had departed but the feeling was their that world cup is coming home. Gambhir had played one of the best ever knocks under pressure. ++
saneindian Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Gambhir hasn't fallen. Don't confuse yourself. We have just seen some of the most inconsitent players India have produced in last 10 years in the best form of their life who are keeping Sehwag, gambhir, Yuvraj out of the team. Let's see how long the form last of those players. As all know, we are touring overseas and anyone who doesn't perform on any overseas tour gets dropped big time. I can see Sehwag and Gambhir both back in the line up soon. Lets get real. Gambhir and Sehwag got as long a rope as they could have expected. Both continued to fail in tests for nearly 2 years! Gambhir was found out technically and just could cure the technical glitch. Sehwag totally lost it post his shoulder surgery. Yuvraj was fighting a different battle. Hopefully a fitter Yuvraj will be back to his best in ODI side sooner.
SLICKR392 Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Again not true.Its Dhoni who upped the run rate. What's not true? When did Dhoni show up? After India was 30-2 down in a WC final with 2 massive players out and the crowd stunt or after they were 100 for 3 with a set player (Gambhir) along with Dhoni? Where was Dhoni during the 15-20th overs when the RR was above 6 twice he took some serious risks and was almost caught in the cover when trying to slog over it. How on earth did he choke when he got the team in a very good stage before leaving?
adi B Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Check the way he got out against Aus in QF and then his brainfart in final.He played excellent knocks in both QF and Final but truth is he choked in both of them. Gambhir played an excellent knock not disagreeing but he threw his wkt away with a brainfart at an most important juncture. Even from strong positions teams collapse in finals because of pressure and that was world cup final.Just remember what happened to Eng against us in the CT final.Thats why its essential when u are set u see through.And we needed more that 6 RR for the last 20 overs. guy who scored 97 and played till 40 odd overs choked? next what,if an opener is well set,scored a ton then gets out after doing all the hardwork and put his team in a great position ,he gets rewarded with the term "choked"? dhoni scored 80 odd in nzl 09,90 odd in lanka 09,140 odd vs pak in vizaag coming @3 but got out when well set and could not play through the innings,so did he also choked? they were bloody good knocks by dhoni
saneindian Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 How have we gone back to that WC final again?
Cricketics Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Lets get real. Gambhir and Sehwag got as long a rope as they could have expected. Both continued to fail in tests for nearly 2 years! Gambhir was found out technically and just could cure the technical glitch. Sehwag totally lost it post his shoulder surgery. Yuvraj was fighting a different battle. Hopefully a fitter Yuvraj will be back to his best in ODI side sooner. Won't disagree on that. I am not one of those fans who forgets the failures and just remember the good days of players. Yes, Gambhir and Sehwag did suck. I think Sehwag kind of sucked more than Gambhir off late, but I still though Gambhir was fine for our test side. I mean he had a slump in ODI's but I still thought he could have been persisted with in tests. Anways, this is my belief that they will come back to test side soon or I should rather say I want them to comeback since they will be better options for us in test. It's not easy to dominate as an opener in test cricket. Hence I am saying, we might see some of these new comers perform in a series, but only time will decide how consistent they are over a period. As I said earlier, one bad overseas tour, and every player has to see the wrath of getting dropped. Same shall happen if they put themselves in a situation like that.
BeautifulGame Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 guy who scored 97 and played till 40 odd overs choked? next what,if an opener is well set,scored a ton then gets out after doing all the hardwork and put his team in a great position ,he gets rewarded with the term "choked"? dhoni scored 80 odd in nzl 09,90 odd in lanka 09,140 odd vs pak in vizaag coming @3 but got out when well set and could not play through the innings,so did he also choked? they were bloody good knocks by dhoni U understand the term chocking ? Gambhir attemted 3 suicidal runout attempts in 3 balls in a row before getting out in the QF. How exactly u describe that apart from chocking?
Cricketics Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 U understand the term chocking ? Gambhir attemted 3 suicidal runout attempts in 3 balls in a row before getting out in the QF. How exactly u describe that apart from chocking? So you remember someone's poor moments in a world cup and because of that you want to deny him the credit for winning us the world cup final? Why don't you say the same about Dhoni, who didn't do much in the world cup other than during the finals? I mena come on. Let's be sane fans. I mean. Be a loyal fan. To put your point across that Dhoni played a better knock, you shouldn't put Gambhir down. No Gambhir fan is denying Dhoni was brilliant in world cup final.
BeautifulGame Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 So you remember someone's poor moments in a world cup and because of that you want to deny him the credit for winning us the world cup final? Where did i deny him the credit? All i said is Gambhir played an excellent knock but just that Dhoni's innings was better. Why don't you say the same about Dhoni, who didn't do much in the world cup other than during the finals? Becoz the post i replied wasnt about the MOS performances in world cup I mena come on. Let's be sane fans. I mean. Be a loyal fan. To put your point across that Dhoni played a better knock, you shouldn't put Gambhir down. No Gambhir fan is denying Dhoni was brilliant in world cup final. How exactly putting honest opinions putting one down? Gambhir as a bat was definitely our best batsman in the world cup.2 important knocks (QF & Final) ahead of Sachin Dhoni and Yuvi in that order (i dont give much imp to Group stages) . But the truth is he had brainfarts in both matches at crucial junctures
adi B Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 U understand the term chocking ? Gambhir attemted 3 suicidal runout attempts in 3 balls in a row before getting out in the QF. How exactly u describe that apart from chocking? So you remember someone's poor moments in a world cup and because of that you want to deny him the credit for winning us the world cup final? Why don't you say the same about Dhoni, who didn't do much in the world cup other than during the finals? I mena come on. Let's be sane fans. I mean. Be a loyal fan. To put your point across that Dhoni played a better knock, you shouldn't put Gambhir down. No Gambhir fan is denying Dhoni was brilliant in world cup final. precisely put..dhoni did jacksh1t throughout the wc
adi B Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 i say gambhir went for a boundary shot selflessly in the 90`s knowing that india was in a great position with yuvi,raina,dhoni still there..noway it qualifies as choking.. gambo`s knock was slightly better than dhoni
saneindian Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Won't disagree on that. I am not one of those fans who forgets the failures and just remember the good days of players. Yes, Gambhir and Sehwag did suck. I think Sehwag kind of sucked more than Gambhir off late, but I still though Gambhir was fine for our test side. I mean he had a slump in ODI's but I still thought he could have been persisted with in tests. Anways, this is my belief that they will come back to test side soon or I should rather say I want them to comeback since they will be better options for us in test. It's not easy to dominate as an opener in test cricket. Hence I am saying, we might see some of these new comers perform in a series, but only time will decide how consistent they are over a period. As I said earlier, one bad overseas tour, and every player has to see the wrath of getting dropped. Same shall happen if they put themselves in a situation like that. Besides persistent poor form, another thing that worked against them was the rift in the team. Both had captaincy ambitions depsite themselves struggling for form, made some public remarks against Dhoni's captaincy, team looked divided at times at a time when the team was going through a dark period. Dhoni had a godfather saving him, both of them had no one backing them when Sandeep Patil came on board and decided to try out new combinations which clicked. Going by their exclusions from the India A squads, looks like Patil is in no mood to relent. Both will need truckloads of runs in domestic cricket to get back and in Sehwag' case a lot better fitness.
Cricketics Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 i say gambhir went for a boundary shot selflessly in the 90`s knowing that india was in a great position with yuvi,raina,dhoni still there..noway it qualifies as choking.. gambo`s knock was slightly better than dhoni Also our country is obsessed of centuries. Infact most of the fans from other countries are too. Had he scored 3 more runs, he would have been in the headline a little more or might have taken the man of the match. But because of those 3 runs, he missed out on all those. It sad, but it's true. 3 runs cost Gambhir lot of glory. World could have been a lot different for him had he scored 3 extra runs.
Cricketics Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Besides persistent poor form, another thing that worked against them was the rift in the team. Both had captaincy ambitions depsite themselves struggling for form, made some public remarks against Dhoni's captaincy, team looked divided at times at a time when the team was going through a dark period. Dhoni had a godfather saving him, both of them had no one backing them when Sandeep Patil came on board and decided to try out new combinations which clicked. Going by their exclusions from the India A squads, looks like Patil is in no mood to relent. Both will need truckloads of runs in domestic cricket to get back and in Sehwag' case a lot better fitness. I would reserve my thoughts on that. It wasn't a chappell gate where clearly things could be visible. Media had a lot to play there. You, me we don't really know what was happening. Media was enjoying the field vacation when India weren't doing too well at the same time sehwag got dropped from the line up or had to sit out. Media even went on to talk crap about Dhoni that Dhoni is ridiculing about Senior players like Ganguly and Tendulkar.
sekhar Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 India really need gambhir in top form, especially in Test..still remember his teriffic partenership with sachin against saffas in that capetown test..we really need that gambhir who could see off such spells of fast bowling and not the one who just keep on poking at anything outside the off stump!!
SLICKR392 Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Dhonis done jacksh^t throughout his career but for that one single wc knock where he wasn't even the top scorer. The most pathetic skipper ever in tests. His only claim to fame is getting together a bunch of players who were for the most part hand selected by ganguly odis and tests. And when they started going off the boil guess who lost 0-8 away and at home to the poms hmmmm. :hysterical: See the easiest thing that one can do in the whole goddamn world thankfully a big chunk of us do not do it without provocation and often times :). That's just a load of rubbish. :facepalm: Later. I don't wanna argue over another Dhoni topic.
saneindian Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 So many posts on Gambhir. Lets go back to the player whom he was praising.
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