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jalebi_bhai Rising Star

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Afghanistan is actually an example of righteous intervention supported by a multitude of generally peaceful nations. If you're putting the body count on the Americans then that's grossly unfair and I will never accept the cause and effect reasoning. They did learn the cost of nation building at the expense of their money and lives and seem to be keeping away from it for the recent conflicts.
There was no righteousness involved in the US' intervention in Afghanistan. They definitely had vested interests: 1. Political & military one up-manship with the USSR during the 'Cold War' period by arming and funding the Mujahideen's (which would ultimately branch out to form the Al-Qaeda) operations against the Soviets. 2. Establishing a foothold in one of the highest opium producing nations/regions in the world and further enhancing their influence in the global drugs trade. The US doesn't do favors for others. It ALWAYS looks out for it's own interest and its selfish pursuits have rendered many a nations into failed states or on the verge. Also, most of the funding and support from Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Muslim countries were essentially from either Bin Laden's own pocket or his close contacts in those countries. His family is one of the wealthiest and most influential in the Middle East (they also have a number of mega construction contracts with the US.)
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There was no righteousness involved in the US' intervention in Afghanistan. They definitely had vested interests: 1. Political & military one up-manship with the USSR during the 'Cold War' period by arming and funding the Mujahideen's (which would ultimately branch out to form the Al-Qaeda) operations against the Soviets. 2. Establishing a foothold in one of the highest opium producing nations/regions in the world and further enhancing their influence in the global drugs trade. The US doesn't do favors for others. It ALWAYS looks out for it's own interest and its selfish pursuits have rendered many a nations into failed states or on the verge. Also, most of the funding and support from Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Muslim countries were essentially from either Bin Laden's own pocket or his close contacts in those countries. His family is one of the wealthiest and most influential in the Middle East (they also have a number of mega construction contracts with the US.)
uff, I'm talking of the 2001 intervention in Afghanistan as righteous.
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Oh ok...... Point number 2 would still be relevant though...... http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-spoils-of-war-afghanistan-s-multibillion-dollar-heroin-trade/91
That is the dumbest idea I have heard in a while, US invaded Afghanistan to control the drug trade. Do you know how much it spends on the drug war & the Afghan war vs the supposed profits from managing this drug trade ? Its one of the worst sources as well, a left wing conspiracy collection. Here's some of the ultimate nonsense these types thrive on: http://www.globalresearch.ca/haarp-secret-weapon-used-for-weather-modification-electromagnetic-warfare/20407
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That is the dumbest idea I have heard in a while, US invaded Afghanistan to control the drug trade. Do you know how much it spends on the drug war & the Afghan war vs the supposed profits from managing this drug trade ? Its one of the worst sources as well, a left wing conspiracy collection. Here's some of the ultimate nonsense these types thrive on: http://www.globalresearch.ca/haarp-secret-weapon-used-for-weather-modification-electromagnetic-warfare/20407
Ummm......ok......live in your bubble then.....where US is sabke pyaare bade bhaiyya......who cares about the whole world......and would never harm a soul........
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Ummm......ok......live in your bubble then.....where US is sabke pyaare bade bhaiyya......who cares about the whole world......and would never harm a soul........
Zyada mat bol, nahi to HAARP se tere ghar pe earthquake aayega :P Sorry I had to bring it up, the idea sounds stupidly fantastic and I found it in your source. Just like the badass project destiny in The Core :cool:
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It is interesting how geo political situation has turned on its head. Assad Supporters Iran Russia Rebel SUpporters Qatar Saudi Al Qaeda Brotherhood Now, Assad's father had attacked Israel in 70s. But later they mended ways and Israel found comfort in a dictator controlling the radical elements. Like Mubarak. But now with Iran's influence in the region, US and Israel want to eliminate the Shia influence in the region. So, Israel wants Assad out. US wants to please Saudis. Russia is a bit of an irritant and US wants to put it in its place. I think Iran definitely does provide additional incentive for US to push the button.

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It is interesting how geo political situation has turned on its head. Assad Supporters Iran Russia Rebel SUpporters Qatar Saudi Al Qaeda Brotherhood Now, Assad's father had attacked Israel in 70s. But later they mended ways and Israel found comfort in a dictator controlling the radical elements. Like Mubarak. But now with Iran's influence in the region, US and Israel want to eliminate the Shia influence in the region. So, Israel wants Assad out. US wants to please Saudis. Russia is a bit of an irritant and US wants to put it in its place. I think Iran definitely does provide additional incentive for US to push the button.
Pretty accurate analysis there. For the US the big prize is Iran. And for Israel the big prize is Hezbollah. Possibly the only militant group that scares Israel.
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If they were open to the highest bidder, they will be controlled by the bidder as well. Here US will be leading the ass kicking in it's own style and someone will be covering the costs. Seems like the mighty is still getting to be mighty all for free.
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Some see biblical visions of doom in Syria trouble MELBOURNE, Fla. -- The deadly violence percolating half a world away in Syria and the warnings of a possible U.S. attack have some people not only looking ahead to what might happen in the coming days — but also looking backward into ancient, apocalyptic prophecies in the pages of the Old Testament. In recent weeks, some dire prophecies have turned up on websites, in book stores, as the subject of Bible studies and in sermons by some Christians and others who see a link between the old passages and modern-day events in Egypt, Libya and Syria. "Behold, Damascus is about to be removed from being a city, and will become a fallen ruin," reads Isaiah 17, a passage some Christians say they believe details a horrific event that leaves the city uninhabitable and leads to worldwide tribulation and the second coming of Christ. Damascus is the Syrian capital and one of the world's oldest cities. Another passage in Isaiah 19 deals with civil war in Egypt and the rise of a "fierce king." Talk of those prophecies has intensified as President Barack Obama considers a U.S. military strike on Syria in response to what Washington says is evidence that the Syrian leadership used chemical weapons against its own people. In turn, Syria vows to retaliate against neighboring Israel if the U.S. strikes. "The prophecies are not new to our group because we do (Bible) studies every Friday night. We have looked at that prophecy, but one of the things I try not to do is make a big assumption. That can be dangerous," said Pastor Gary Cristofaro of the First Assembly of God in Melbourne. "We try to find balance by immersing ourselves in prophecy rather than being affected by it." "The situation in Syria as it relates to scripture could be something that we're witnessing, but we should be cautious. What prophecy really is about is the faithfulness of God's word.'' Prophecy has long played a role in the formation of American faith and, even, politics. A number of congregations including the Seventh-day Adventists and the Jehovah's Witnesses can trace their roots to the "Great Disappointment" of 1844, a year when a preacher named William Miller moved thousands of Christians to give away their possessions with prophecies detailing what he thought would be the second coming of Jesus Christ. Millions of Americans also listened as Herbert W. Armstrong, a warbled-voice minister belted out dire prophecies of famine, war and pestilence in the late 1930s – during the Dust Bowl drought and just before the onset of World War II. President Harry Truman, an avid student of the Bible and its prophecies regarding the return of Jews to the Holy Land, was the first world leader to recognize Israel in 1948, a moment some Christians believe began a new prophetic era for events in the Middle East. Tom Lombardo, a San Franscico-based author and researcher of end time beliefs, believes that the Syrian prophecy is the latest example of some Christians turning to ancient biblical writings to make sense of a modern, complex world. "Interpreting events doesn't lead to an understanding of what's going on. I believe it actually clouds the understanding," said Lombardo, whose novel American Underground touches on religious themes, political divisions and geopolitical conflict. Lombardo said followers of prophecy tend to look at world events and search through biblical prophecies for what he calls clues on the timing of the events. "You have some prophecy teachers that argue that the tribulation has begun now. So every time something happens, it has to fit into the narrative," he said. Christian bookstores such as Family Christian Ministries in West Melbourne report that book sales of prophecy-themed works by charismatic minister Perry Stone, Pastor John Hagee and novelists such as Joel Rosenberg have increased in recent weeks since tension in Syria and Egypt escalated. "We sold a lot of Perry Stone books, and he's really good with the end times. A lot of our customers say their churches are doing something on prophecy," said Kaylee Snodgrass, assistant manager at Family Christian Ministries. Some, though, like Pastor Ralph Nygard of Eau Gallie First Baptist Church in Melbourne, urge caution about any speculation and say the prophecies of the bible must be seen in their historical context. "All I've been teaching recently has been the Book of Revelation and sharing information about the time in which it was written," Nygard said. "What you have to decide is whether the prophet Isaiah was dealing with the ancient nation of Israel or foretelling the future. You can have a dualistic approach and see the way it was written and the time," and what it may mean for the future, he said.

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The sensex on Tuesday zoomed by 727 points, its biggest single-day gain in over 4 years, to end just a shade below 20,000-mark on heavy FII buying in bluechips on the back of positive factors like strong rupee, solid trade data and receding concerns about US military attack on Syria.
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