Dhoni the greatest Finisher top 20 Match winning innings

[maniac]

2 183* - - - - - v Sri Lanka Jaipur 31 Oct 2005 ODI # 2290 2 101* - - - - - v Bangladesh Dhaka 7 Jan 2010 ODI # 2939 2 91* - - - - - v Bangladesh Dhaka 10 May 2007 ODI # 2582 2 91* - - - - - v Sri Lanka Mumbai 2 Apr 2011 ODI # 3148 2 80 - - - - - v Sri Lanka Vadodara 12 Nov 2005 ODI # 2296 2 77* - - - - - v Pakistan Karachi 19 Feb 2006 ODI # 2333 2 72* - - - - - v Pakistan Lahore 13 Feb 2006 ODI # 2329 2 71* - - - - - v Australia Delhi 31 Oct 2009 ODI # 2918 2 67* - - - - - v Zimbabwe Harare 4 Sep 2005 ODI # 2280 2 67* - - - - - v Sri Lanka Margao 14 Feb 2007 ODI # 2522 2 67 - - - - - v Sri Lanka Karachi 3 Jul 2008 ODI # 2732 2 63 - - - - - v Pakistan Guwahati 5 Nov 2007 ODI # 2643 2 61* - - - - - v Sri Lanka Dambulla 28 Jan 2009 ODI # 2806 2 56 - - - - - v Pakistan Dambulla 19 Jun 2010 ODI # 2996 2 50* - - - - - v Sri Lanka Adelaide 19 Feb 2008 ODI # 2681 2 50 - - - - - v England Cuttack 26 Nov 2008 ODI # 2783 2 46* - - - - - v West Indies Gros Islet 3 Jul 2009 ODI # 2854 2 45* - - - - - v Pakistan Gwalior 15 Nov 2007 ODI # 2646 2 45* - - - - - v Sri Lanka Pune 3 Nov 2005 ODI # 2291 2 45* - - - - - v Sri Lanka Port of Spain 11 Jul 2013 ODI # 3388 Loin Slayer http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/28081.html?batting_fielding_first=2;class=2;filter=advanced;orderby=batted_score;result=1;template=results;type=allround;view=innings

[vvvslaxman]

Finishing doesn't mean just while chasing. You can finish innings even when you set targets duh

[maniac]

1 148 - - - - - v Pakistan Visakhapatnam 5 Apr 2005 ODI # 2236 1 139* - - - - - v Africa XI Chennai 10 Jun 2007 ODI # 2589 1 124 - - - - - v Australia Nagpur 28 Oct 2009 ODI # 2915 1 109* - - - - - v Hong Kong Karachi 25 Jun 2008 ODI # 2716 1 94 - - - - - v Sri Lanka Colombo (RPS) 5 Feb 2009 ODI # 2815 1 87* - - - - - v England Hyderabad (Deccan) 14 Oct 2011 ODI # 3199 1 84* - - - - - v New Zealand Napier 3 Mar 2009 ODI # 2821 1 76 - - - - - v Sri Lanka Colombo (RPS) 24 Aug 2008 ODI # 2750 1 75* - - - - - v England Kolkata 25 Oct 2011 ODI # 3210 1 72 - - - - - v Sri Lanka Rajkot 15 Dec 2009 ODI # 2932 1 72 - - - - - v England Kochi 15 Jan 2013 ODI # 3320 1 71 - - - - - v Sri Lanka Colombo (RPS) 27 Aug 2008 ODI # 2755 1 68* - - - - - v South Africa Gwalior 24 Feb 2010 ODI # 2962 1 68 - - - - - v New Zealand Christchurch 8 Mar 2009 ODI # 2823 1 62* - - - - - v West Indies Nagpur 21 Jan 2007 ODI # 2480 1 59 - - - - - v Pakistan Abu Dhabi 19 Apr 2006 ODI # 2364 1 58 - - - - - v Sri Lanka Pallekele 4 Aug 2012 ODI # 3295 1 56 - - - - - v Zimbabwe Harare 29 Aug 2005 ODI # 2274 1 56 - - - - - v Sri Lanka Colombo (RPS) 14 Sep 2009 ODI # 2889 1 50* - - - - - v Australia Chandigarh 8 Oct 2007 ODI # 2627

[maniac]

No one has screwed Srilanka so much since Prabhakaran

[vvvslaxman]

No one has screwed Srilanka so much since Prabhakaran

Virat Kohli says hi :winky:

[vvvslaxman]

For a lower order batsman that is an inhumane achievement :hatsoff:

[maniac]

This thread is not to Marginalise Dhoni as I said he is hands down India's greatest WK-bat but call him the greatest is nothing but heroworship and clearly the tams have taken to him like sambar(Just kidding),the guy is good even very good but no way is he is GOAT

[vvvslaxman]

Bt way Srilanka's record against all countries last 5 years Vs Australia 22 matches won 11 lost 9 more than 50% won vs South Africa 11 matches won 7 lost 4 more than 50% won vs Pakistan 21 matches won 10 lost 10 50% vs West Indies 5 matches won 3 lost 1 more than 50% vs England 8 matches won 4 lost 4 . 50% vs New zealand 7 matches won 5 lost 2 more than 50% They have done a fabulous job against all countries in the last 5 years bar India. So don't suggest scoring against SL is a walk in the park. Ask Rohit sharma. he will tell you how he struggled to go past number of "wides" in SL tour.

[jalebi_bhai]

Check his ICC Tournaments record.........not very impressive but still......he is one of India's greatest LOI batsman of all time......

[maniac]

Check his ICC Tournaments record.........not very impressive but still......he is one of India's greatest LOI batsman of all time......

Don't deny that....always said we are lucky to have a player like dhoni,utility wise he is the 2nd best we ever had after kapil ,as a batsmen defintetely top 5 from India in Odis.....but calling him the goat or the best odi player ever is offensive which happens here way too often given the following the Ipl and clt20 have and how often we play srilanka.

[vvvslaxman]

His batting positions in ICC ODI. In 2007 he failed .. against BD and SL. If he had scored you are going to say "he just scored against Srilanka" . In 2011 world cup. 9 ODIs 241 runs 48.20 avge 81.69 Strike rate Hardly poor for a batsman who came at no.6 or later.

[Pagalpanti]

Check his ICC Tournaments record.........not very impressive but still......he is one of India's greatest LOI batsman of all time......

Well what good is a record in ICC tournament if you don't have the cup. He played the innings that mattered (along with gambo).. Stats in ODI's hardly matter, its the runs in the important games that count.

[maniac]

His batting positions in ICC ODI. In 2007 he failed .. against BD and SL. If he had scored you are going to say "he just scored against Srilanka" . In 2011 world cup. 9 ODIs 241 runs 48.20 avge 81.69 Strike rate Hardly poor for a batsman who came at no.6 or later.

Clearly shows that Stats dont always tell the true picture........He had 3 Notouts out of 9 games one of them as I have already stated a brilliant innings in the final. His 2nd highest score was 34 against Ireland. The 2 other N.O's came against the Mighty Netherlands 19* and against South africa 12* in a match where we could have used his mythical finishing and steering the game away from a superior opposition skills where everyone around him were falling like 9 pins. That obviously nullifies the 48 average doesn't it.

[maniac]

^ANyways why are arguing about DHoni the player...I said he is the best thing to happen to Indian cricket in a while(only as a player) but calling him the Greatest ODI player is B.S

[vvvslaxman]

Clearly shows that Stats dont always tell the true picture........He had 3 Notouts out of 9 games one of them as I have already stated a brilliant innings in the final. His 2nd highest score was 34 against Ireland. The 2 other N.O's came against the Mighty Netherlands 19* and against South africa 12* in a match where we could have used his mythical finishing and steering the game away from a superior opposition skills where everyone around him were falling like 9 pins. That obviously nullifies the 48 average doesn't it.

He was a bit off color througout the tournament. Agreed. But inspite of such form he came in after two quick wickets to deal with Murali as Murali vs Yuvi could have gone SL's way. He completely neutralized the threat from Murali and Malinga and calmed the dressing room. Dhoni's record in ICC tournaments is an anamoly . Mahela scored 19 runs in the entire 2003 world cup. INzi scored like 23 runs or so in 2003 world cup. They are top order batsmen. Dhoni is a lower middle order batsman who will have varied scenarios to deal with. Dhoni has the highest average of Indian wins by a mile. Dhoni 73.37 Kohli 65.90.. Rest of them below 60. bar Tiwary just 4 matches..(71) Dhoni has scored 5 centuries 30 fifties in the 107 innings he played and India won. That is like a 50 every 3rd match.

[vvvslaxman]

^ANyways why are arguing about DHoni the player...I said he is the best thing to happen to Indian cricket in a while(only as a player) but calling him the Greatest ODI player is B.S

I don't think anyone called that :cantstop: . He is the greatest finisher. That you can see in Bevan vs Dhoni thread.

[The Outsider]

He was a bit off color througout the tournament..

Dhoni's numbers in ICC tournaments: 7, 51, 28, 0, 29, 0, 3, 31, 34, 19*, 12*, 22, 7, 25, 91*, 27, 0. Except for that 91*, his ICC tournament career is full of crap. Even that 91* was the third best innings of the match.

[vvvslaxman]

Dhoni's numbers in ICC tournaments: 7, 51, 28, 0, 29, 0, 3, 31, 34, 19*, 12*, 22, 7, 25, 91*, 27, 0. Except for that 91*, his ICC tournament career is full of crap. Even that 91* was the third best innings of the match.

In T20 he sucked both at the international level also at IPL level. I am not even including that. His T20 transformation shaped up only in the last couple of years. In one dayers he has played in just 2 world cups. One INdia got eliminated early. In the other he had an average outing. Those 8 matches should not diminish his otherwise stellar ODI career. Otherwise Andrew Symonds, Lance Klusner would be hailed as ODI batting gods they both average over 100 in ICC ODI tournaments. Inzamam 35 matches 717 runs in ICC tournaments Alan Border 25 matches 452 runs 18.813 avge Mike Hussey 15 matches 156 runs 19.50 avge M Vaughan 14 matches 347 runs 24.85 avge Gayle 20 matches 604 runs 31.79 avge M Yousuf 13 matches 386 runs 32.16 avge Are they any less players as the figures suggest. Considering the batting position of Dhoni that is not a horrible stat. But considering his ability and capability in ODIs those stats are poor. Most of the matches that India played in the world cup were absolute pattas. So we cannot say he struggled because he struggled in tough conditions. In world cup even a hack can find touch and have an amazing tournament or a good player get into a bad run and end up with sorry stats. It is even higher for a lower middle order batsman like Dhoni.

[The Outsider]

^ I don't consider T20 proper cricket, so didn't include it in the list - it was World Cups and Champions Trophy.

[vvvslaxman]

^ I don't consider T20 proper cricket' date=' so didn't include it in the list - it was World Cups and Champions Trophy.[/quote'] Don't think he played that much of a CT... Looking up he has played a grand total of 6 CT games in the span of 7 years in 3 CTs. After 2009. Just 3 of them. Hardly an indicator how good a player he is. In the current CT. He had just two outings. In 2009 just one outing. We cannot draw any conclusion from couple of failures there. All we can say is he underachieved there. Someone who has been in top 10 ICC rankings has to have done something right.