ODI cricket: Warne vs Saqlain: Whom do you have in your team?

[Number]

Saqlain had 2-3 great years and was found out after that and Pakistan immediately discarded him.

[Yoda-esque]

Warne

[thongale]

Is this april fools? Is everyone on a wind up. People choosing saqlian over warne:hysterical:

This is only about ODIs

[saneindian]

Warne For his better record against top order batsmen. 129 out of 288 of Saqlain wickets , 45% were of lower middle order or tail (no 7 or lower). Same no for Warne was 98 out of 293 i.e. 33%

[Sooda]

^Interesting stat. I always thought Saqi was one of the great ODI bowlers... slightly inflated I guess Saqi took 20 wickets in 2 tests when Pak toured India in 98/99. In an era when we smashed any other spinner

[King Tendulkar]

This is only about ODIs

Fully aware of that. Saqlain v Warne is joke comparison in any form of cricket

[Austin 3:!6]

BTW, as the question is who would you have in your team. I think India/BD/Lankan would probably pick Warney since all of these teams have an offie but a leggie is a rarity

India's best spinner ever Anil Kumble was a leggie:orderorder:

[Sooda]

Fully aware of that. Saqlain v Warne is joke comparison in any form of cricket

It isnt, Saqlain was a great ODI bowler. Better Econ, SR and Ave than Warne

[GrandMasterSaxy]

Warne - Though he wasn't successful against India, he had the ability to turn on any given pitch (that too by miles)

[GrandMasterSaxy]

Saqlain played in mid 90's and early 2000, cricket is a different game now. If he would have been playing now, he would have probably been in the same league of Ajmal.

It isnt' date=' Saqlain was a great ODI bowler. Better Econ, SR and Ave than Warne[/quote']

[GrandMasterSaxy]

Why Omar Henry and not Muralidharan ????? :hitler:

[StriKe]

Why Omar Henry and not Muralidharan ????? :hitler:

OP is from Lanka that's why he didn't add murali :giggle:

[Debutant]

Saqlain played in mid 90's and early 2000' date=' cricket is a different game now. If he would have been playing now, he would have probably been in the same league of Ajmal.[/quote'] Now the game is more batsmen friendly. Pitches are flatter , grounds are smaller, better bats and batsmen with much more aggression because T20. He could have been murdered now. Add 2 more in economy and 5 more in average

[Sooda]

^ Ditto for Warne though right?

[hhhhdmt]

Fully aware of that. Saqlain v Warne is joke comparison in any form of cricket

your opinions are a joke. Saqlain outperformed Warne in ODI's in the late 90's and was arguably a better one day bowler. Even if you believe Warne was a better ODI bowler, there certainly isn't a massive difference. And to suggest otherwise is a joke

[hhhhdmt]

Now the game is more batsmen friendly. Pitches are flatter ' date=' grounds are smaller, better bats and batsmen with much more aggression because T20. He could have been murdered now. Add 2 more in economy and 5 more in average[/quote'] i don't see Saeed Ajmal getting murdered, and Ajmal isn't as good as Saqlain was.

[Asim]

Saqlain was a genius... used to bowl successfully at any stage of game on any track vs any opposition. Amazing strike rate as a spinner yet with a mean avg, even today he owns the records of fastest 100, fastest 150, fastest 200 and fastest 250 wickets... at the end his career got ruined by his injuries+PCB+his own personal mismanagement & strange choices... 288 ODI wickets in just 7,8 years of career was simply Amazing, ... imagine if he had like 15-18 years of career the way he was going before injuries etc...!!!

[Asim]

Fully aware of that. Saqlain v Warne is joke comparison in any form of cricket

Never knew you started to watch cricket post 2003...

[rainy day]

Warne For his better record against top order batsmen. 129 out of 288 of Saqlain wickets , 45% were of lower middle order or tail (no 7 or lower). Same no for Warne was 98 out of 293 i.e. 33%

Saqlain was a regular death bowler and probably the first spinner who did this regularly. So naturally he would have a few more wickets at the end of the Inngs. The difference between the two's average is massive not to mention Saqlain has an amazing record vs every team in every playing nation on the other hand Warne averages very high on Pak/Ind phattas and averages over 56 vs India ! (compared to 24 for Saqlain). Saqlain over Warne in ODIs is IMO a no brainer.

[putrevus]

Saqlain was a genius... used to bowl successfully at any stage of game on any track vs any opposition. Amazing strike rate as a spinner yet with a mean avg' date=' even today he owns the records of fastest 100, fastest 150, fastest 200 and fastest 250 wickets... at the end his career got ruined by his injuries+PCB+his own personal mismanagement & strange choices... 288 ODI wickets in just 7,8 years of career was simply Amazing, ... imagine if he had like 15-18 years of career the way he was going before injuries etc...!!![/quote'] he is best spin bowler in odis in my book. but i disagree he could not have sustained success over a longer period even if he was injury free and all things went for him. once people started reading his doosra he did not anything else to fall back on as he was not a big spinner of the ball especially in tests.