skindia Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Jaddu can make 1-2 runouts too Link to comment
velu Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Yes. No point in dropping him for one match. and no point in picking Yadav for one match. It's pointless. Better to go with the same combination. :agree: there is no point in having a 2 match series with a no 1 team :blink: Link to comment
ThePhenomenal1 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 No way, unless we want another draw or chance of a loss. jadeja can bowl a number of overs, as can rohit or dhawan if needed. Jadeja brings into play caught and bowled. Also a brilliant fielder. Can add some runs. Likely to get some wickets and dry up runs. If not jadeja, then umesh yadav. Or jadeja replaces ashwin and yadav replaces one of the pacers, probably ishant but unlikely. But the batting should stay the same. Link to comment
ThePhenomenal1 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Yes. No point in dropping him for one match. and no point in picking Yadav for one match. It's pointless. Better to go with the same combination. Why isn't there a point? That ONE match will decide the series result so i'd want to win that. Ashwin, bowls 60+ overs for no wicket, can't do anything overseas. Yes, steyn got no wickets 2nd innings either but he's one of the best, he can have a off day because in 1st innings he got a wicket or 2. Ashwin has done nothing noteworthy. We should look to change weak links, and ashwin is one of them Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I want him in the side for his batting. Current form, I would go with Ojha or Jaddu on a track that would turn, such as the one in Durban. He has no plans of his own and if things aren't going his way he switches to around the wicket and bowls that defensive line. It would be a nice plan to give him a break and let him work on his action a bit. Rarely keeps it simple and has become highly predictable. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I want him in the side for his batting. Current form, I would go with Ojha or Jaddu on a track that would turn, such as the one in Durban. He has no plans of his own and if things aren't going his way he switches to around the wicket and bowls that defensive line. It would be a nice plan to give him a break and let him work on his action a bit. Rarely keeps it simple and has become highly predictable. Yes. His wicket taking ability is very very vital in the coming overseas tours. If he is going to be used primarily as someone who can hold one end up, it will hurt both him and India. He will never grow. India will end up overbowling others and hurt them as well. The hidden damage can be telling. I wouldn't mind losing his batting ability if India can get more wickets with other bowlers. Link to comment
satishg Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 He did bowl well on the 5th day although it would have been nice to see some wickets under his belt. There is no way MSD is dropping Ashwin for this test, so lets just hope that he bowls the same way as he did during the last day and picks up some wickets. One wicket will give him some confidence and will help him to bowl better. Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Yes. His wicket taking ability is very very vital in the coming overseas tours. If he is going to be used primarily as someone who can hold one end up' date=' it will hurt both him and India. He will never grow. India will end up overbowling others and hurt them as well. The hidden damage can be telling. I wouldn't mind losing his batting ability if India can get more wickets with other bowlers.[/quote'] Apart from NZ and SA, every other team has a strike spin bowler. Even Lyon can be dangerous at times. Ashwin isn't going anywhere for now. AFAIK, our spin cupboard is empty. If there is any ideal replacement for Ashwin, its B.Aparjith. Handy with the bat and ball. Ashwin needs a break big time to amend his action. Link to comment
JourneyMan Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Everyone is going on about Ashwin's batting like he's going to score a century or something. Batting isn't our biggest issue here, it's bowling.. Jaddu gets in on bowling alone. The fact that he fields excellently and can also bat are bonus points (this is actuallly ironic because he's a batting all-rounder, but he has proved to be instrumental as a test bowler). Link to comment
dangerman1985 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 ashwin is of no use outside sub-continent. If the pitch is going to assist spinners, go with jadeja/ojha in place of ashwin and also remove zaheer khan and get yadav in. Link to comment
Stuge Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 It won't matter, how many plus point you guys tell about SIR jaddu ... ASHWIN will be in playing eleven tomorrow ..period ! Link to comment
Lord Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 they'll surely show bit more confidence in Ashwin Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 It won't matter' date=' how many plus point you guys tell about SIR jaddu ... ASHWIN will be in playing eleven tomorrow ..period ![/quote'] Just a wish. Final call we be taken by team management. We have to remember Indian team won't be like ICF> The way they look at the problem will be completely different from the way we look at it. Hence the solution will also be different. They will look at long term plan. Despite Tahir bowling horribly Smith did not hesitate to bring him back against tailenders. It means they have fait in him. Similarly Ashwin's inclusion will depend on captain's faith more than anything else. If you were a captain you might also go his way. Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Man ! These guys are gonna drop Tahir and play R.Peterson. Another batting all rounder along with Philander. Link to comment
Lord Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Man ! These guys are gonna drop Tahir and play R.Peterson. Another batting all rounder along with Philander. Philander is a batting allrounder?:cantstop: Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Philander is a batting allrounder?:cantstop: Sorry, bowling AR. Which one is Peterson? Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Man ! These guys are gonna drop Tahir and play R.Peterson. Another batting all rounder along with Philander. That will be true against India. But i think they will continue their faith in Tahir. He can be an X factor against other teams. Link to comment
shortbread Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Strangely there are more chances of Ashwin making a 50 against the Saffers than taking a wicket. I think in these conditions hes the better batsman than Rohit or Dhoni. If tom track does assist spin then maybe Jadeja should replace Rohit. Link to comment
Lord Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Sorry' date=' bowling AR. Which one is Peterson? [/quote'] batsman:giggle: Link to comment
Lord Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 That will be true against India. But i think they will continue their faith in Tahir. He can be an X factor against other teams. only Poyzz:giggle: Link to comment
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