vvvslaxman Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 do you think Jaddu can do well and pick wickets on non-turning tracks?:hmmm: HE can do the job of Nathan Lyon perfectly. He doesn't experiment much except pace variation. he is reasonably accurate like him. Doesn't rely on pause :giggle:, carrom ball, doosra, chucking. He has a good arm ball which will be handy in those kind of pitches. Link to comment
kaptaan Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 z6SSyz37jiI _gEmC5LoFk4 Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 Seeing Zaheer bowling like that on 2nd day of 2nd was as embarrassing as RP Singh turning up in England from Miami. all the good feeling we got from some batsmen showing some fortitude has been destroyed and wiped out by this gross ineptitude of these morons. Link to comment
Lord Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 HE can do the job of Nathan Lyon perfectly. He doesn't experiment much except pace variation. he is reasonably accurate like him. Doesn't rely on pause :giggle:, carrom ball, doosra, chucking. He has a good arm ball which will be handy in those kind of pitches. Nathan Lyon gets wickets mainly because their pacers do well n batsmen look to attack Lyon.won't happen with us Link to comment
div Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Nathan Lyon gets wickets mainly because their pacers do well n batsmen look to attack Lyon.won't happen with us true..but people are only interested in stats.:giggle: Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 India does not have all season bowlers at this poin. Shami and Jaddu at this point look like they can do reasonably well on all surfaces. Ashwin on pitches that does not turn and bounce' date=' look pedestrian like a part timer. I would rather keep a seamer in place of him. It is also not a good idea to go in with 2 left arm spinners in the same side. Ashwin should not be picked for his batting. India needs wicket takers for all surfaces.[/quote'] India never had such bowlers that's why guy like Pataudi started this trend of playing four best bowlers all the time. is it time to start that trend. These morons have got every facility in the world and they still are this useless when team needs to depend on run outs and spinners for taking wickets. They scored those 58 runs without even breaking a sweat that was just pathetic, 458 did not matter last test either. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Nathan Lyon gets wickets mainly because their pacers do well n batsmen look to attack Lyon.won't happen with us That is true. That is why i said 3 strike bowlers. Among the spinners available Jadeja looks like he can do a better job overseas than others. If we can have a leggie that is even better. Leggies can even be devastating in overseas conditions as they get more bounce than a finger spinner. It is difficult to charge down the wicket against them. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 India never had such bowlers that's why guy like Pataudi started this trend of playing four best bowlers all the time. is it time to start that trend. These morons have got every facility in the world and they still are this useless when team needs to depend on run outs and spinners for taking wickets. They scored those 58 runs without even breaking a sweat that was just pathetic, 458 did not matter last test either. If you walk into Brsibane Gabba with 4 spinners joke will be on you. You cannot judge entire bowling crop based on the outings of Ishant and Zak here. Zak's poor returns is understood as he is back after a long lay off. Ishant is one of the worst in history when you talk about overseas. They are not reflections of our other bowlers. Besides Ashwin didn't look exactly the best bowler in our side in the first test. If anything he was the worst. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 z6SSyz37jiI _gEmC5LoFk4 Indian trundler culture fanatics wont get this. They wont be impressed. They will ssay did not get wicket with these balls, what the point. Better to pitch up and hit stumps But as soon as oppo bowlers scare us to death and bang it like morkel, we say why cant we have bowlers like this, look at aggression Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 If you walk into Brsibane Gabba with 4 spinners joke will be on you. You cannot judge entire bowling crop based on the outings of Ishant and Zak here. Zak's poor returns is understood as he is back after a long lay off. Ishant is one of the worst in history when you talk about overseas. They are not reflections of our other bowlers. Besides Ashwin didn't look exactly the best bowler in our side in the first test. If anything he was the worst. Bowlers should not be picked because they can bat, they should be taking wickets or they are out of the team. Ohja never played outside India, we never how he would have done if he got a chance. how is it bigger joke than Micheal Clarke and co making 654 with 4 down. or how is it bigger joke than team not able to defend 458. They are lucky they are not playing 4 or 5 tests in this series ,I dont think these fast bowlers were going to take more than 10 wickets again. Link to comment
div Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Bowlers should not be picked because they can bat, they should be taking wickets or they are out of the team. Ohja never played outside India, we never how he would have done if he got a chance. how is it bigger joke than Micheal Clarke and co making 654 with 4 down. or how is it bigger joke than team not able to defend 458. They are lucky they are not playing 4 or 5 tests in this series ,I dont think these fast bowlers were going to take more than 10 wickets again. averages 65 in Sri Lanka. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Bowlers should not be picked because they can bat, they should be taking wickets or they are out of the team. Ohja never played outside India, we never how he would have done if he got a chance. how is it bigger joke than Micheal Clarke and co making 654 with 4 down. or how is it bigger joke than team not able to defend 458. They are lucky they are not playing 4 or 5 tests in this series ,I dont think these fast bowlers were going to take more than 10 wickets again. Okay you don't fix a problem with another problem. Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 was this guy Yadav not part of bowling attack that leaked 654 runs and 610 runs against Australia, now we are supposed to believe that this guy all of a sudden has made U Turn after leaking runs in odis. As Seinfield would say that is some kind of Magic Loogie. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 was this guy Yadav not part of bowling attack that leaked 654 runs and 610 runs against Australia, now we are supposed to believe that this guy all of a sudden has made U Turn after leaking runs in odis. As Seinfield would say that is some kind of Magic Loogie. Ashwin was also part of the attack. So we cannot say he is one among the best either. Link to comment
kaptaan Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Indian trundler culture fanatics wont get this. They wont be impressed. They will ssay did not get wicket with these balls, what the point. Better to pitch up and hit stumps But as soon as oppo bowlers scare us to death and bang it like morkel, we say why cant we have bowlers like this, look at aggression exactly...especially with tailenders...guys will be scared to be at crease Link to comment
kaptaan Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 was this guy Yadav not part of bowling attack that leaked 654 runs and 610 runs against Australia, now we are supposed to believe that this guy all of a sudden has made U Turn after leaking runs in odis. As Seinfield would say that is some kind of Magic Loogie. but his average and strikerate is better than the rest.As simple as that Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 was this guy Yadav not part of bowling attack that leaked 654 runs and 610 runs against Australia, now we are supposed to believe that this guy all of a sudden has made U Turn after leaking runs in odis. As Seinfield would say that is some kind of Magic Loogie. Look, one bowler will never do it for you but you need a balanced attack, a combination where all 4 bowlers can contribute. When Yadav, others let them down. When Zak did well, others did not. If Steyn did not have Philander and Morkel from the other ends, I doubt he would had the same impact. You need good bowling from both ends. Bowlers taking wickets from both ends. Yadav was successful at MCG and Perth. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Look' date=' one bowler will never do it for you but you need a balanced attack, a combination where all 4 bowlers can contribute. When Yadav, others let them down. When Zak did well, others did not. [b']If Steyn did not have Philander and Morkel from the other ends, I doubt he would had the same impact. You need good bowling from both ends. Bowlers taking wickets from both ends. Yadav was successful at MCG and Perth. First test eg. Once Morkel left , Phily couldn't sustain. Steyn couldn't sustain his spell. Link to comment
CSK Fan Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 was this guy Yadav not part of bowling attack that leaked 654 runs and 610 runs against Australia, now we are supposed to believe that this guy all of a sudden has made U Turn after leaking runs in odis. As Seinfield would say that is some kind of Magic Loogie. I would always give more chance to young bowlers like Yadav and BK and hope they come good than keep on trying tried and tested failures like Ishant Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I would always give more chance to young bowlers like Yadav and BK and hope they come good than keep on trying tried and tested failures like Ishant Even one bowler can screw up the entire bowling line up and make them look bad. If it is a thin line up of 4 bowlers with no part timers, then damage he can do is untold. Link to comment
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