Brainfade Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 People on this forum go over board with criticizing VK . Yeah , hes not the most skillful , but is he really the slowest bowler we have ? far from it . At his best he was always a mid 130s bowler , like Pankaj , Dhawal , Gony , Pandey , even Ishant these days . None of these guys should be playing for India , its not just about pace either . Only Umesh , Aaron and Shami are considerably quicker than rest and can be categorized as fast. Fair enough ... the smiley face was meant to show that the comment was made half-in-jest. Bottom line: if VK deserved the chances he got, so did PS. And, given comparable FC/List-A stats, playing a lot more in the IPL got VK the name-recognition he needed to be propelled into national contention.
fineleg Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 I know that every year I cannot perform the way I have in the last four years. I am going to turn 29 so the age is going to soon turn against me. This is very sad. His best years were the last 3-4 years. India could have benefitted 2 years out of those 4 years if they tried him out. What can one say about politics in India(n cricket)? Instead we had trundlers galore including A. Mithun and Unadkat.
nballa Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 reminds me of that hyderabad spinner, kanwaljeet singh or someone. consistently performed well but never selected.
ThePhenomenal1 Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 until politics and corruption are removed in cricket, we can never benefit
panther Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 I have seen better bowlers than this guy in my village in Pakistan.
shortbread Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 I have seen better bowlers than this guy in my village in Pakistan. Any luck finding a batsman?!
nballa Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 I have seen better bowlers than this guy in my village in Pakistan. and then what did you do?
panther Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Any luck finding a batsman?! Too many sami aslam future ATG, Umar waheed another future ATG, ahmed shazad another Atg, backed by plenty of decant batsman like azhar and asad.
panther Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 and then what did you do? Nothing 135k bowlers are everywhere in pakistan no one rates 135k in pak.
vvvslaxman Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Nothing 135k bowlers are everywhere in pakistan no one rates 135k in pak. I know for a fact there is an 125k trundler bowling the death over for you against SA :giggle:
panther Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 I know for a fact there is an 125k trundler bowling the death over for you against SA :giggle: Only one bowler in the history of pakistan cricket bowled at 125k and he was not even a Pakistani tanvir ahmed.
shortbread Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Too many sami aslam future ATG' date=' Umar waheed another future ATG, ahmed shazad another Atg, backed by plenty of decant batsman like azhar and asad.[/quote'] You mean decent batsmen. At least you are seeing decent Pakistani batsmen, because one things for sure, rest of the world haven't seen a decent Pakistani batsman in a looong time!!:haha:
vvvslaxman Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Only one bowler in the history of pakistan cricket bowled at 125k and he was not even a Pakistani tanvir ahmed. Sohail Tanvir is what Geoff Thonson reincarnation :cantstop:
panther Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Sohail Tanvir is what Geoff Thonson reincarnation :cantstop: Tanvir is 130k bowler
vvvslaxman Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Tanvir is 130k bowler WHy is he playing for Pakistan if you guys don't rate 135k plus :cantstop:
panther Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 WHy is he playing for Pakistan if you guys don't rate 135k plus :cantstop: Sifarshi
gattaca Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 WHy is he playing for Pakistan if you guys don't rate 135k plus :cantstop: wasnt cheema 135 k as well.
vvvslaxman Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 wasnt cheema 135 k as well. Then there was this guy Ifthikzar lol.
Cricketics Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 I just hope he is not just remembered for standing up and clapping after Tendulkar hit hundred during Australia tour of 2007. Guy deserves more than that.
fineleg Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Many times I heard I was not quick, so I worked on my pace. But importantly started first by working on my fitness and strengthening to make sure I was bowling at lively pace. In the last two years even I felt I was bowling quick - consistently 135kph. Barring Umesh Yadav, show me one fast bowler in India who has bowled consistently over 140kph. I have tried to tick every checkbox a selector thinks with regard to a fast bowler. There is a feeling that your age was a factor, as you could not be picked for an A team where opportunities need to be given to youth primarily. But is it not unfair on you considering you are almost the same age as some players who have been on A tours in recent years? Yes. But right from when I was 26, I have never been considered or included. There are other players like Vinay Kumar and RP Singh, Dhawal Kulkarni who are around my age and still have played or been included in the squad. I am not nitpicking. Some of these guys have played more cricket than me, but my numbers show I am doing much better than many other fast bowlers. Nope! You need to check (out of) Rajasthan (move somewhere else). You need to butter up N. Srini Go find out what checklist MSD has You have checked nothing in the checklist, Pankaj Singh! without huge buttering of N. Srini and M$D and maybe also Sandeep Patil. Especially since you are not the son of a selector, you need to do all this buddy. You need to remind yourself you live in India.
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