hhunaeh Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 why are these sex crimes taking places in states with strong women leaders? sheila dikshit delhi and now mamata bannerjee? I got to say whats the point of you being in power if you cant even protect your gender in your state The female cms just like the male cms are busy protecting their own kith and kin, to whom they have greater allegiance than some stranger of the same sex. The question of protection should be asked irrespective of the gender of the chief minister. Women cms shouldn't have to answer more just because they are the same sex as the victim of a brutal crime.
nballa Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 looks like all rape cases in india are making headlines in the world news outlets. part of a deliberate ploy by the west to show india in a poor spotlight. at this rate all Indians living in the west should wear masks while stepping out.
randomGuy Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 looks like all rape cases in india are making headlines in the world news outlets. part of a deliberate ploy by the west to show india in a poor spotlight. at this rate all Indians living in the west should wear masks while stepping out. meanwhile in today's news, 1in 5 american women say they have been sexually assaulted at college
nballa Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 meanwhile in today's news' date=' 1in 5 american women say they have been sexually assaulted at college[/quote'] its a fib, made up stuff to file lawsuits and get some cash nothing more.
StriKe Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 its a fib' date=' made up stuff to file lawsuits and get some cash nothing more.[/quote'] http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/22/obama-sexual-assault-report-white-house-council-on-women-and-girls/4776949/
SLICKR392 Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 its a fib' date=' made up stuff to file lawsuits and get some cash nothing more.[/quote'] STFU you cun t, trying to take a pot shot at us with such cases?
randomGuy Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 In UK in 2012, 1.2 million faced domestic abuse, 400k sexually assaulted, 70k raped. There's massive under reporting as well uk have 30 million women in all of all ages.
nballa Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/22/obama-sexual-assault-report-white-house-council-on-women-and-girls/4776949/ in the states even touching a girl is considered an 'assault'. now compare that to an entire village 'voting' to rape a girl. wow.
randomGuy Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 in the states even touching a girl is considered an 'assault'. the same are the sensibilities of indian women and indian society. These extreme cases are aberrations.
KhanSaab Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 These extreme cases are aberrations. and newsworthy.
randomGuy Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 and newsworthy. yes they must be reported even at cost of tourist numbers going down ya NRIs ki naak neechi hoti ho. Entire country should not be painted with the same brush
alexander Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 then maybe its time that women help out other women. India must be one big paradox. Having powerful women politicians in sonia Gandhi, Mamata, Amma and Maywati. In the UK is currently no woman of note. Its all men dominated. The USA has never had a female president. the same with the banks. all males. Yet India has even powerful women ceos. Why is this such a paradox? Teresa May is Home Sec. UK women are 1000 times better off then women in India.
adi B Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 quite a lot of rape cases have come up in bengal in the last few weeks,they are going to overtake delhi/ncr it seems and so many such incidents do not even get attention..shameful and harsh reality of india.the panchayat head threatened the girl's family not to report this matter else face the consequences,very brave of them to report this matter
BeautifulGame Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/Village-defends-Bengal-gang-rape-accused/articleshow/29269076.cms A broken wooden cot sits in the middle of the gloomy shack. A table fan stands next to it. And in one corner, as if tossed carelessly, is a pair of jeans. "It's a good thing you did not touch that. It belongs to a rape accused," said a policeman, collecting evidence. This was where a tribal girl was gang-raped on the orders of a kangaroo court, as an entire village watched. The dusty hamlet, some 30km from the district headquarters of Suri, does not show any sign of remorse for the horror that has shamed Bengal before the world yet again. The women vehemently defend their men, insisting that they have been "trapped in a conspiracy." They tried to stop police from entering the village to arrest the suspects and blocked journalists, too, to "stop them from demeaning their culture". Their defiance is striking: children and elderly stand hand-in-hand to express their solidarity. They insist the girl had to be punished because she was "caught in a compromising position with a married man of another village". "Some of our boys rounded up the duo and brought them to the village. We tied them up but didn't ask our men to rape her, nor did we demand money. Our elders told the girl to leave the village if she wants to stay with that man. She threatened us that she will not yield. She spoke to someone in Hindi and went to police to get our men arrested," claimed a woman. They barricaded police, forcing additional SP (Birbhum) Prasanta Kumar Chowdhury to call up additional forces. "Our men are innocent. Why are police interfering in our daily lives?" shouted a mother of four. The ASI posted outside the girl's hut says he cannot recollect the last time police entered the village. "Perhaps, they don't realize they have overstepped the law of the land by several miles," he said. The lack of education is evident in the village. Ironically, the girl and her lover met while they were both working on the village's school building. "We always wanted to educate our children," said a woman, whose husband has been arrested for the gang rape. She adds with sudden anger: "It is this under-construction school that has brought shame to our village. It's here that the two met. She has brought disrespect to our community." A 3km drive on a dusty, pebbled track brings you to this hamlet. It seems to be caught in a conundrum - between urbanity and tribal tradition. With Suri just 30km away, the urban effect is evident here. The youth wear jeans and women were nightgowns. A few have mobile phones. The village doesn't look as neat and tidy as Santhal villages do. Electricity hasn't gone to their homes but they hook up with the main transmission lines. "Like you, our youths are up to date. They will never indulge in all this," said a woman. No one admits being present during the gang rape. "I was not there when the incident took place. My uncle Bolai Murdy was the former Morol (headman). But he was unhappy when my father Buju Hembram took over. Hence, it was he who passed the verdict on the girl," says Sumir Hembram, Buju's son. He is quick to point out that the girl "was bad" and had even "visited Delhi and spoke in Hindi". "Tell me how are they so well off?" he asks. About 10km away, the lover's village is equally tense. His family got a call on Tuesday morning to pay Rs 25,000 or see him dead. "My brother-in-law was forced to sell off his soon-to-be-married daughter's jewellery to raise the money," said his wife. They have a 10-year-old son and a daughter. "Please see that my husband returns," she adds, breaking down. "I have no hard feelings for the victim. She is like my sister and is going through a lot of pain." A delegation of Bharat Jakat Majhi Maroa, a Santhal social organization, visited the village on Thursday. Opel Murdy, a representative, said the incident had shamed the entire tribal society but he, too, did not deny that a "system of punishment" existed in their community. "We strongly condemn the torture on the girl. We shall try to remove the misunderstandings but we cannot totally deny the system of community-headman. It has many good sides too."
Brainfade Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 While every rape incident is barbaric, no matter where, when or how it occurs, it is taken to a whole new level when it is sanctioned by an elected body.
BeautifulGame Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Cops in Bengal's Birbhum district on Thursday arrested 14 men, including a village headman who had ordered the gang-rape of a 20-year-old tribal woman for alleged sexual relations with a man from outside her community. As tempers flared across the state and another anti-Mamata Banerjee wave over rising gender crime swelled, the chief minister replaced the district police chief C Sudhakar with Darjeeling SP S N Gupta. Even as the administration claimed it had acted promptly, more gruesome details emerged. Villagers told TOI on Thursday that after the kangaroo court ordered her to be sexually savaged, the woman was placed on a raised bamboo platform so that the gang-rape was viewed by the entire village, children included. "If the family does not pay up, go and enjoy yourselves," is what headman and now prime accused Boloi Murdy allegedly told the men. The woman's family alleged she and her lover, a man from a nearby village, were tied up in Murdy's courtyard, where a kangaroo court was held and handed down the punishment — a Rs 50,000 fine for the man and gang rape for the woman. Some villagers told TOI that the woman's cries rent the air all night but no one stepped forward to help her. Even her family, who lives 50 metres away, could not rescue her. Doctors attending to the critically injured woman said on Thursday they had "clinical evidence" of penetration by several men. The report has been sent to police, said Birbhum medical chief Dr Asit Biswas. The woman's family was not given even a night's time to arrange for the Rs 50,000. Once the headman ordered rape, it was a free for all. "Among those who raped her were teenagers and some old enough to be her father," said a villager, who was willing to depose to escape arrest. "Almost the entire village — including children — had joined the kangaroo court. All of them hailed it as the correct move," he said. The village, 60km from Shantiniketan, the cultural and academic hub created by Rabindranath Tagore, is populated by adivasis and has no electricity or school. The administration has always been wary of interfering with tribal traditions, leaving the adivasis to live by their own laws. It saw a horrific humiliation of a teenage girl in 2010 for having an affair outside the tribe. She was paraded naked through four villages and anyone was free to grope her. Although it triggered outrage across the country, the Bengal government wasn't quite proactive. All the accused are out on bail. Even on Thursday, a day after the gang-rape by up to 13 people, the village didn't show any hint of repentance. The women, in fact, barracked police, insisting the men had done nothing wrong and that the woman had to be punished. The women tried to stop police from arresting the accused and additional SP Prasanta Kumar Chowdhury had to rush in reinforcements. Journalists were barricaded until Santhal outfits intervened. No less shocking is the attitude of the administration. Police didn't seek custody of the accused—something unprecedented in gang-rape cases. The public prosecutor didn't even turn up in court, apparently because it was a holiday. "We have arrested all the accused in quick time," said Sudhakar by way of an explanation. Despite the prosecutor being missing, the court sent the accused to police custody for 14 days. No government official—from the BDO to the district magistrate—bothered to meet the survivor's family or visit the scene of crime. Armed policemen milled about the village and some were seen cordoning off the shack in which the rape platform stood, barely 20 feet from the hut of Murdy, the headman. The villagers threatened to ostracize the woman's family for cooperating with the authorities. "We will never allow the woman and her family to return," cried out villagers. They accused the woman of framing the accused because she was ordered to leave the village if she continued her affair. "We know that she lived elsewhere with that mason. She made a lot of money. How can we allow the family back? Nothing happened. She made false allegations against our family members because we opposed her illicit relationship," said Panmuni Tudu, a villager. Bhaju Hembram, who was the headman a few years ago, told TOI that he knew what was going on but since he had "lost his voice" he left without any protest. "What can I do? Now Balai is recognized as the headman," he said. He acknowledged his son witnessed the gang-rape but he, too, refused to say anything. At Mamata's behest, Trinamool Congress leader Mukul Roy made a formal statement, saying: "The government is firm and will take strictest action against the culprits. It is a social malaise and we shall combat it politically, socially and administratively." The problem is with the whole society not the kangaroo court where everyone is trying to deflect at .This is what happens when they are still stuck in medieval ages.No party will make a big issue about this or try to bring social/economical reforms because these people are their vote banks. These are the days i feel genuinely grateful to Periyar in Tamilnadu.
urbestfriend Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 The problem is with the whole societytention not the kangaroo court where everyone is trying to deflect at .This is what happens when they are still stuck in medeival ages.No party will make a big issue about this or try to bring social/economical reforms because these people are their vote banks. These are the days i feel genuinely grateful to Periyar in Tamilnadu. This..It should not be reduced to blame game between different parties, we cant hold just current government for such barbaric acts..It is mostly to do with medieval justice practiced by these villages who are stuck in ancient ages, and successive govts have failed to educate them. Govt should not just deliver the swift justice to the perpetrators , but also concentrate on social reforms of these villages and change their level of morality in line with the our society.
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