Muloghonto Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Dhoni is not an idiot or mentally retarded to not know the role of gurunath who was accredited as owner and Team Principle' date='Director by CSK.G.M has sat through numerous press conference with dhoni and held the same tag of owner,team principle .U can ignore facts and go round and round in arguments .[/quote'] You dont have to be an idiot or mentally retarded to know Gurunath's role in the team. One thing that is clear, is his actual position in the team was carefully concealed, if the justice report is accurate ( it probably is, but until it is proven in a court of law, it is not considered true in criminal matters). It took a justice panel months to determine his position. Clearly, if it takes seasoned legal judges months to discern the true facts of ownership, Dhoni is easily excused, so would 99.999% people who are not privvy to precise laws and implications of those laws on ownership. Your statements lack actual truth to them, because otherwise the justice council would've concluded in 24 hours what Gurunath's role was, not three months. The length of the enquiry, implies that Gurunath's role was not cut-n- dry simple.
Muloghonto Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 It took the commitee months because they were trying to look at betting and fixing charges more than just proving what Gurunath's status was And you claim that Dhoni did not know Gurunath's role yet shared team strategies, picks and selections with him, then he is the biggest moron in the world. Who shares selection secrets, discusses who to pick etc with a glorified fan? It happens far more than you think. I don't think any one of you are actually aware of social dynamics inside or outside the dressing room to be honest and display a lot of ignorance towards it. Milionaire obsessed fan willing to devote countless hours to make the team 'better' is not a rare sporting syndrome, neither is their participation in practically all matters of the team. This happens a lot more often than you think in teams that are ultimately private ownerships, because such fans are entertained by owners of the team. Your exposure to national/state level cricket may make these cases rare enough to show shock and disbeleif but your lack of exposure to franchise based sports teams on any serious level is the reason you are incredulous.
CG Posted February 13, 2014 Author Posted February 13, 2014 You dont have to be an idiot or mentally retarded to know Gurunath's role in the team. One thing that is clear' date= is his actual position in the team was carefully concealed, if the justice report is accurate ( it probably is, but until it is proven in a court of law, it is not considered true in criminal matters). It took a justice panel months to determine his position. Clearly, if it takes seasoned legal judges months to discern the true facts of ownership, Dhoni is easily excused, so would 99.999% people who are not privvy to precise laws and implications of those laws on ownership. Your statements lack actual truth to them, because otherwise the justice council would've concluded in 24 hours what Gurunath's role was, not three months. The length of the enquiry, implies that Gurunath's role was not cut-n- dry simple. How was in concealed when he was accredited as owner,director,team principle and acknowledged it in press conference and auctions.We do not even need to go to ownership as its not the point as according to them he was nothing to do with team not even a team official.If u believe G.m was a cricket enthusiast then no point debating.
King Tendulkar Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Dhoni knew what GM was etc Why people defnding the indefensible, pathetic fans!! Plus 10-0 Plus picking indian teams based don his finicial interest and political interests Plus thick captain anyway Plus rubbish test player Take your pick but sack the mofo
Muloghonto Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Dhoni knew what GM was etc Why people defnding the indefensible, pathetic fans!! Because you saying 'he knew' doesnt make it so. Plus 10-0 Plus picking indian teams based don his finicial interest and political interests Plus thick captain anyway Plus rubbish test player Take your pick but sack the mofo Nothing more than a nutbar fan mentality at display here.
King Tendulkar Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Because you saying 'he knew' doesnt make it so. Nothing more than a nutbar fan mentality at display here. You are naïve or crazy dhobi fan. Fair enough lol We all know what happened here. The guy GM was in full discussion with team selections with dhoni, yet apparently enthusiastic fan only:hysterical: Any court with balance of evidence would say dhoni lied and knew!! And defo picks team based on finiacial interests. Please defend flying in 20 stone rp for a game in England to open bowling so to boost rhiti. Defend that please, will be fun to see:--D
King Tendulkar Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 why has this been moved to ipl forum? Yes discussions on team compositions of ipl, auctions etc yes move But this is not really about IPL. Its about indian captain in massive controversy. This effects indian team etc etc
Detonator Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Because you saying 'he knew' doesnt make it so. Everybody here knows everything :dontknow:
King Tendulkar Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Everybody here knows everything :dontknow: Exactly, so how did dhoni not know:hysterical: Next some will say he did not know about rhiti sports and did not know Ishant was rubbish:hysterical:
Raghav_12 Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 You are naïve or crazy dhobi fan. Fair enough lol We all know what happened here. The guy GM was in full discussion with team selections with dhoni, yet apparently enthusiastic fan only:hysterical: Any court with balance of evidence would say dhoni lied and knew!! he is none of those. he simply uses ICF to increase his typing speed. He should be charged monthly fee for his usage of ICF.
King Tendulkar Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 If dhoni was paid money directly to pick a player for Indian cricket team. We would all say disgusting, took a bribe to pick a player for India. Sack him, lock him up But when dhoni picks a players for to make money through having them in his rhiti sports i,e picking him to make money, a more subtle way of taking a bribe. All remain quiet and say nothing. Are our fans really that stupid? seems so
The Outsider Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 If Dhoni was unaware of any ownership or management role played by gurunath, he is quite within his rights to classify Gurunath as a cricket enthusiast, since Gurunath is not a player or a coach. No. He is within his rights to tell the SC appointed committee that he does not know what Gurunath's role is. Saying that Gurunath's was a cricket enthusiast with no say in cricketing matters is lying and possibly perjury. Typing long essays does not alter this simple fact.
Detonator Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Too much nonsense about perjury and oath by the usual imbeciles. It was your standard run-of-the-mill SC instituted inquiry with a very limited term of reference and even more limited powers of investigation. I mean, Justice Mudgal did not even have the power to summon an individual. So all that speculative and uninformed nonsense about Dhoni "lying" under oath or committing perjury tells only about the bias and idiocy of people spewing them. Wrt GM, what he represented himself as, or what privileges CSK allowed him during the IPL is definitely material but FAR from conclusive evidence. For example, Ambani's son perhaps has an even deeper access to MI team set up than GM, but assuming Ambani Jr does not have a formal role with MI, Rohit would be similarly justified in saying he is a mere enthusiast. The GM case is a little more complicated than that insofar India Cements allowed GM to represent himself as acting on behalf of the team to the public at large. But was it indeed the case? That's FAR from established. The Mudgal report has an extremely weak case against CSK itself, although a cogent case against GM, in his personal capacity. There are NO legal documents like employment contract or partnership deed clearly establishing GM's role with CSK/India Cement. There's NOTHING against Srinivasan/CSK/India Cements beyond the statements by players that he had access to dressing room and a few letter heads and visiting cards bearing GM's name. It's some evidence but not even close to the required comprehensive, nail-in-the-coffin evidence. Nothing can be held against Dhoni, then, for his statement before the Mudgal panel. Whatever you say but the FACT is Dhoni is a corrupt liar who is supporting a criminal here, so he is a criminal. The whole world knows Dhoni has Rhithi connection and his biased selection of players and including the whole CSK team for tours cost us all the overseas games. Dhoni shlould be sacked as a captain for this. 10-0. How come Sreeni can own BCCI, India cements and CSK? corruption everywhere and he is destroying indian cricket. we need some honest guys like lalit modi. He shld be thrown in jail and arnab goswami shld interview him i want to see him crying before the media. Also guruvappan shld be crucified as the truth is he involved in match fixing and spot fixing. That's the response you will get. :giggle: haters, thank me for posting on behalf of you.
King Tendulkar Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Whatever you say but the FACT is Dhoni is a corrupt liar who is supporting a criminal here' date= so he is a criminal. The whole world knows Dhoni has Rhithi connection and his biased selection of players and including the whole CSK team for tours cost us all the overseas games. Dhoni shlould be sacked as a captain for this. 10-0. How come Sreeni can own BCCI, India cements and CSK? corruption everywhere and he is destroying indian cricket. we need some honest guys like lalit modi. He shld be thrown in jail and arnab goswami shld interview him i want to see him crying before the media. Also guruvappan shld be crucified as the truth is he involved in match fixing and spot fixing. That's the response you will get. :giggle: haters, thank me for posting on behalf of you. facts are none what to talk about rp singh issue I brought up. fan boys have no answer
ThePhenomenal1 Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 just sack dhoni and make kohli captain. indian cricket needs shaking up for the better. down with the corruption.
Detonator Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 facts are none what to talk about rp singh issue I brought up. fan boys have no answer RPS played for bambis. mumbai lobby made sure he is selceted, like they gave nohit ridiculous number of chances. :giggle:
Lord Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 facts are none what to talk about rp singh issue I brought up. fan boys have no answer just one game after everyone was injured.if it was due to rhiti,he'd have played more,no? also he did well in England tour in 2007 so that could have been the reason
Lord Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 RPS played for bambis. mumbai lobby made sure he is selceted' date=' like they gave nohit ridiculous number of chances. :giggle:[/quote'] but nohit is claaassss.he deserves them.Dhoni is right there.dont talk about that
Detonator Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 To be sure, I am not at all in support of Dhoni, with his Rhiti business, and Srinivasan's style of administration. You'll be a blind fanboy yourself if you dismiss all the concerns as work of haters. For example, either Dhoni should be told not to have business interests in sports management firms or he should have absolutely ZERO say in selection...even the final 11. He simply has no business even attending the squad's and final eleven's selection. It's a scandal how the Indian team selection is being conducted under Dhoni and Srini. One doesn't have to be a hater to see it and say it. I don't think he or any captain has a voice in selection matters. I guess he once threatened to resign for not selecting his former lover rp singh. Most of this selection issues popped up during the amarnath saga, who was going to select sehwag as captain, who was perfroming terribly during that time.
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