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We have Aus series ODI and Tests before WC2015. Hope no Indian player gets injured before WC2015. WTH is MJ bowling - amazing fast bowling lethal stuff@

Those South Africans who merely lost their wickets were lucky Wow that statement says a lot ain't it? He took a career-best 12 wickets as Australia cruised to a 281-run victory but just as important were the physical blows he landed. South Africa will not forget how intimidated they felt. As in the first innings, AB de Villiers was the only South Africa batsman who looked truly comfortable against Johnson. The rest were ill-equipped to handle his speed and bounce. He smashed Hashim Amla on the grille of the helmet first ball. He made Ryan McLaren bleed from the side of the head with an accurate bouncer. He jarred Vernon Philander on the fingers, then broke his bat. Those South Africans who merely lost their wickets were lucky. http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-australia-2013-14/content/story/719287.html
Massive Physical Intimidation :hatsoff: Can India get such a bowler in five centuries? wow! 178863.2.jpg
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I see it as a perfect warm-up for the WC. If someone's injured so be it. It's sports and injuries will happen and you can't do much about it. Hopefully someone like Rohit can get injured and we get to replace him with someone like Jadhav who ends up being the MVP of the WC for us :pray:

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Other than his own hardwork which is admirable, what are the factors which have developed MJ from a good fast bowler to this amazing lethal bowler now? What a transformation!!! Clarke? (captaincy) - does he thrive under Clarke? Coaches? ??

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Other than his own hardwork which is admirable, what are the factors which have developed MJ from a good fast bowler to this amazing lethal bowler now? What a transformation!!! Clarke? (captaincy) - does he thrive under Clarke? Coaches? ??
IMO lot of credit has to be given to McDermott. Since he took over the Aussie bowling coach, every Ausies bowler looks improved. Hope we get him as a bowling coach instead of someone like Dawes who sits around without making any difference whatsoever.
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Other than his own hardwork which is admirable, what are the factors which have developed MJ from a good fast bowler to this amazing lethal bowler now? What a transformation!!! Clarke? (captaincy) - does he thrive under Clarke? Coaches? ??
Clarke who is an attacking captain backs his bowlers to take wickets is always looking for a win. Mcdermott and Lehman as well I think Craig has been phenomenal and the Aussie bowlers under him have been brilliant.Lehman is someone who keeps the dressing room relaxed and gives players a lot of confidence.
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IMO lot of credit has to be given to McDermott. Since he took over the Aussie bowling coach' date=' every Ausies bowler looks improved. Hope we get him as a bowling coach instead of someone like Dawes who sits around without making any difference whatsoever.[/quote'] Well you can have Glenn Mcgrath he won't be able to work with the likes of Ishant while I do agree that the likes of Bhuvi Shami Umesh and Varun can improve under him but even if you have the best bowling coach at the end of the day the guys have to work hard and remain focused.
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Well you can have Glenn Mcgrath he won't be able to work with the likes of Ishant while I do agree that the likes of Bhuvi Shami Umesh and Varun can improve under him but even if you have the best bowling coach at the end of the day the guys have to work hard and remain focused.
Best bowlers don't necessarily make the best coaches. McDermott knows how to get through to the bowlers and has clearly made the difference. That's what coaches are meant to do - to make a difference, and not to just throw up their hands in the air and say I can't do much with player A, B or C.
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Best bowlers don't necessarily make the best coaches. McDermott knows how to get through to the bowlers and has clearly made the difference. That's what coaches are meant to do - to make a difference' date=' and not to just throw up their hands in the air and say I can't do much with player A, B or C.[/quote'] Do you see Ishant listening to him ?While I do feel that the young guys they can develop under him but the important thing is that they keep working hard they don't get distracted that is the main thing.I won't mind T.A Sekhar as a bowling coach.
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Do you see Ishant listening to him ?While I do feel that the young guys they can develop under him but the important thing is that they keep working hard they don't get distracted that is the main thing.I won't mind T.A Sekhar as a bowling coach.
We won't know unless we try him. Folks like Lehmann and McDermott have clearly made a difference to the Aussie team and I would try to get someone like McDermott to see if he can make a difference to the Indian bowlers as well. McDermott has definitely managed to work with Aussie bowlers in getting their lines & length right. They are mostly full and use the short ball beautifully. TA Sekhar wouldn't be bad either as Dawes hasn't made any difference at all to our bowlers.
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One thing is clear - Joe Dawes can do nothing for our team. And Duncan Fletcher :facepalm: Please get new coaches now. Before Eng series, and before wc2015. Please BCCI, please! McDermott will not leave the Aus team now, but BCCI can try to attract him or another coach.

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One thing is clear - Joe Dawes can do nothing for our team. And Duncan Fletcher :facepalm: Please get new coaches now. Before Eng series, and before wc2015. Please BCCI, please! McDermott will not leave the Aus team now, but BCCI can try to attract him or another coach.
Fletcher isn't going anywhere plus again you can get all the coaches you want at the end of the day our bowlers have to work hard and listen to their advice and keep themselves fit and remain grounded and not get carried away by the hype.
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One thing is clear - Joe Dawes can do nothing for our team. And Duncan Fletcher :facepalm: Please get new coaches now. Before Eng series, and before wc2015. Please BCCI, please! McDermott will not leave the Aus team now, but BCCI can try to attract him or another coach.
It's more than clear BCCI likes coaches who don't shake the boat and are "yes men". That's the reason Fletcher and Dawes still have their jobs and they don't mind it either as they are cashing free checks. The losers are us indian cricket fans who see no improvement in our players and BCCI not even bothered about it.
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Poor attitude behind India's fast bowling woes - Prasad http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/478229.html India's depleted pace bowling cupboard can be explained by a lack of discipline and drive among some of those in the attack, Venkatesh Prasad, the former India bowling coach, has said. The last decade has seen more than a few bowlers fading after a good series or two but that, he said, was because of their attitude and not merely failings in their bowling. "It's about their attitude, it's about their commitment", Prasad told ESPNcricinfo. "Bowlers need discipline to get up every single day in the morning, hit the gym and bowl long spells. I have not seen many bowlers bowling one-two hours. You can't bowl 20 minutes in the nets and then bowl 20 overs in matches." Prasad coached the Indian bowlers from May 2007 to October 2009 and is now bowling coach for the Chennai Super Kings. During his India stint, he said, he found the bowlers' work load in the nets to be inadequate. "I was very disappointed with the amount of bowling that was going in nets. And with the amount of training: they weren't training hard, the bowlers weren't pushing themselves." Bowlers - he did not name any - could not be pushed to put in more than 20 minutes in the India nets, and he said that, as a member of the support staff, he could not be after them every day. "I can't keep saying, 'Come on XYZ, whoever they may be, bowl for one hour." He said he did so on many occasions but it wasn't always appreciated. "It's a thin line. There were lots of players who, when you told them something, didn't like it. The player needs to be honest. "Things can't change until and unless the players are honest to their team, the coach and, most importantly, to themselves." Prasad singled out Ishant Sharma, though, for having a "fantastic" work ethic, which complements his talent. "He's somebody who works extremely hard at the nets. He bowls in the nets at the same intensity with which he would bowl in a match. He has a great work ethic." He's currently going through a lean spell which, Prasad said, related to his wrist not being behind the ball. "The fingers aren't on the seam. He is rolling his wrists instead. The fingers don't run down the seam to give back spin which enables the ball to land on seam." He spoke about Ishant's "bad phase" during IPL 2 in South Africa. "I remember watching on TV and seeing him falling away at the release and pushing the ball down the leg side. And to get the ball on the right line he was trying to bowl it from outside off stump but it wasn't coming in." The coach saw that Ishant's bowling arm was not as high and straight as it needed to be. The collapse of the front shoulder that followed meant the bowling arm couldn't get into a good position. Watching it on TV, Prasad says he felt "helpless" then. "He was spraying the ball everywhere. I think that's where it all started. Then he was dropped from his franchise. That was pretty sad." The bad habits had returned. Prasad remembers Ishant's second Test match versus Pakistan in Bangalore and how things began to go wrong after a few overs. "In the first innings on the previous day he was all over. He was trying to bowl inswingers but was pitching it on the middle and it would go down the leg side." Ishant would try to correct the line by bowling outside off, but all that happened is that the ball would sit up outside off and asked to be hit. "He was confused. I could see it", says Prasad. "You must realise the pressure there for a player at that level is unbelievable." He spotted Ishant's problem, sat him down and made him go through the video. Then the two then went down the ground and Prasad had him practice the release. "I made him just stand and release the ball." The wrist was straight behind. The fingers were on the seam. The wrist snapped into release position. Again and again. Prasad says, "There was an article next morning which said Ishant wasn't ready to play Test cricket yet." It appeared on the day he took five wickets. The treacherous wrist position can either be Ishant's biggest asset or his bogey when the bad habits return. Prasad explains that, in trying to make the ball move in or out, bowlers tend to 'roll' rather than snap their wrists. "The right mechanism is to keep the wrists straight and fingers on the seam and give it a back spin." It is what he tried with Ishant. "The wrist will take care of itself depending on the action; if somebody is side-on the ball will go away, if front on, the ball will come in. Of late he (Ishant) is rolling his wrists again, which is not needed. Something these bad habits creep in." Amongst Ishant's other peers, Prasad also talked about how Praveen Kumar's talent should be utilised, "I would play him in Tests in New Zealand and England. He has a great wrist position, control and can move the ball around at will." With Praveen, Prasad said, "it was just a matter of telling him not to try too many things. Work on the basic stock ball, keep doing it again and again before you try the variation. Set-up the batsmen better." Prasad hoped Sreesanth would take the opportunity given to him again with his return to the team to play versus Australia in the Tests. He said, "What a talent. He should be able to play at least 50 Tests. He has everything; good run-up, fantastic release. He just needs to run in, hit the length around off stump time and again. He just needs that discipline."

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^^^^^^^ The interview was written back in 2010 and you can see that the bowlers are casual with their attitude.
You only need to see someone like Zaheer, the so called bowling "spearhead", amble in and bowl the opening delivery of the Test at 121 kph. When someone like Zak is able to not only get away with such a lackadaisical attitude but able to thrive in the Indian team, what message does it send to others on the sideline? I mean what would be the motivation for a young up and coming bowler to see someone like Zak go through the Test half fit and not much bothered :dontknow:
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If Johnson manages to send the Sharmas to the hospital our chances of retaining the WC will rise exponentially, especially that hack Nohit.

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You only need to see someone like Zaheer' date=' the so called bowling "spearhead", amble in and bowl the opening delivery of the Test at 121 kph. When someone like Zak is able to not only get away with such a lackadaisical attitude but able to thrive in the Indian team, what message does it send to others on the sideline? I mean what would be the motivation for a young up and coming bowler to see someone like Zak go through the Test half fit and not much bothered :dontknow:[/quote'] The Joburg Test 2nd innings too he was just running in without any purpose I respect him a lot but his role should be of a bowling coach or consultant if they dont want a Foreign bowling coach either him or T.A.

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