Haarkarjeetgaye Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Vietnam is also causing a lot of confusion or sending mixed signals: * Debris reported by Cathay was investigated by Vietnam and passed off as inconsequential * The email sent by the oil rig worker on sighting plane near south coast of Vietnam only came to light now. I guess, they would have received the email a little earlier * Vietnam, if I am not wrong, called off the search but resumed again * From what you said, it is Vietnam saying that the plane took a u-turn :hmmm: True but not sure on the point 1. Vietnam passed of the first debris as inconsequential. Not the second one in my opinion. For the second one they did not find anything. One the 4th point, that is the reason they gave of stopping search. That Malaysian authorities are not paying heed to their statements. Not they have started the search again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 True but not sure on the point 1. Vietnam passed of the first debris as inconsequential. Not the second one in my opinion. For the second one they did not find anything. One the 4th point, that is the reason they gave of stopping search. That Malaysian authorities are not paying heed to their statements. Not they have started the search again? I read a little more on this - Vietnam scaled back because of the reports about the plane having gone to Malacca area and to seek further direction from Malaysia Link Hopefully, we will know soon what the oil rig worker's report brings about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 An Update: LINK A burning plane sighted near the south coast of Vietnam - Terrorism angle could come in to play too in another tweet he said "The letter from oil rig worker is filled w/details yet could be a hoax. Vietnamese officials are investigating @ABC pic.twitter.com/6MSuNHZedU — Bob Woodruff (@BobWoodruff)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Late Mar 12th 2014 China's State Administration of Science (SASTIND) reported, they discovered three large objects sized 13x18, 14x19 and 24x22 meters at position N6.7 E105.63 (121nm eastsoutheast of the last known secondary radar position), all three objects within a radius of 20km (11nm) and published the satellite images, taken on Mar 9th 2014 at 11:00 Beijing time (03:00Z), see below. SASTIND stated they are committed to provide further search services to locate flight MH-370. Expect something in the morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhunaeh Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Late Mar 12th 2014 China's State Administration of Science (SASTIND) reported, they discovered three large objects sized 13x18, 14x19 and 24x22 meters at position N6.7 E105.63 (121nm eastsoutheast of the last known secondary radar position), all three objects within a radius of 20km (11nm) and published the satellite images, taken on Mar 9th 2014 at 11:00 Beijing time (03:00Z), see below. SASTIND stated they are committed to provide further search services to locate flight MH-370. Expect something in the morning... Wouldn't such large airplane pieces sink in the water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 this will be stunner if true. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-manager-3235818 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Late Mar 12th 2014 China's State Administration of Science (SASTIND) reported, they discovered three large objects sized 13x18, 14x19 and 24x22 meters at position N6.7 E105.63 (121nm eastsoutheast of the last known secondary radar position), all three objects within a radius of 20km (11nm) and published the satellite images, taken on Mar 9th 2014 at 11:00 Beijing time (03:00Z), see below. SASTIND stated they are committed to provide further search services to locate flight MH-370. Expect something in the morning... Again these images were taken on 9th March. In last 4 days that area has been scoured quite a bit. Would be surprised if anything substantial comes out from these images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 in my personal opinion I do believe US knows where the plane is or what happened but do not want to reveal their surveillance secrets. plane flew for 4 hours after disappearance is what they say.. http://stream.wsj.com/story/malaysia-airlines-flight-370/SS-2-475558/SS-2-478780/?mod=wsj_streaming_malaysia-airlines-flight-370 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_death Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 in my personal opinion I do believe US knows where the plane is or what happened but do not want to reveal their surveillance secrets. plane flew for 4 hours after disappearance is what they say.. http://stream.wsj.com/story/malaysia-airlines-flight-370/SS-2-475558/SS-2-478780/?mod=wsj_streaming_malaysia-airlines-flight-370 If it flew for 4 hours more, then either of India/China military radars should have detected it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 http://www.viralnovelty.com/six-important-facts-youre-told-lost-malaysia-airlines-flight-370/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Raghav_12 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Based on some of the things I have read in last few days, I think most needed evolution in aviation industry is to manage plane landing in auto pilot mode. There have been instances where everybody was aware that plane is going to crash, as pilot was found to be as incapacitated or for some other reason, still nothing could be done. If aviation industry manage to develop a technology that can land plane from an altitude of say 35000 feet without any kind of pilot intervention, than it would be great step in making aviation industry even more secure and safe. I understand this can be done for small fighter planes but commercial planes are really far from this at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_death Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 http://live.wsj.com/video/malaysia-air-how-transponder-could-be-switched-off/7770717A-8EE7-48C6-9F81-A34476735FCC.html#!804A12ED-B788-4DD4-ADDA-A4636965A757 How transponder can be switched off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Again these images were taken on 9th March. In last 4 days that area has been scoured quite a bit. Would be surprised if anything substantial comes out from these images. as expected nothing came out of these images. Emerging nuggets of information keep getting more and more outlandish. Now a report in US newspapers say that plane flown for total 5 hours. That would mean it flew for 4 more hours after getting disappeared from radar..!! If we consider that pilots were left unconscious because of something and flight was on auto-pilot then it should have flown for 8 hours, until all fuel would have run out. Similar incident has happened once when both pilots of plane were left unconscious because of lack of air pressure in cabin and plane kept flying for long. Couple of jets were scrambled behind that plane and they reported pilot being lying motionless and oxygen masks dangling for passengers. Plane flew for sometime and eventually crashed in mountains when it ran out of fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_death Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 as expected nothing came out of these images. Emerging nuggets of information keep getting more and more outlandish. Now a report in US newspapers say that plane flown for total 5 hours. That would mean it flew for 4 more hours after getting disappeared from radar..!! If we consider that pilots were left unconscious because of something and flight was on auto-pilot then it should have flown for 8 hours, until all fuel would have run out. Similar incident has happened once when both pilots of plane were left unconscious because of lack of air pressure in cabin and plane kept flying for long. Couple of jets were scrambled behind that plane and they reported pilot being lying motionless and oxygen masks dangling for passengers. Plane flew for sometime and eventually crashed in mountains when it ran out of fuel. The absence or the inability to find blackbox indicates the possibility that the plane never crashed. I will not be surprised if the end we find out that the Malaysian govt new about the plane all along and had been buying time to negotiate with the hijackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roshanrocks Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 ANd now the plane can be anywhere within that circle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Updates: * Malaysian official denies Wall Street Journal report that engines sent data hours after last contact * No signs of missing jetliner where possible debris spotted, official says * Search area now the size of Portugal Link The leads (many misleading) provided are denied by the authorities in a short time frame, while the search is producing no results. If anybody knows how the search is conducted, please enlighten. What sophisticated technologies/methods are being used esp. in the Malaysia-Vietnam area? I hope the search team has not missed vital clues (assuming that some of the best guys in the business are involved). At the moment, we have the following facts to go by: a) Communication lost as soon as the plane left the Malaysian coverage zone b) Malaysian military radar tracked an "unidentified aircraft" on the other side - Malacca/Penang How can the transponder go off? a) Malfunction - but crew can possible communicate via cell phones by flying low b) Plane blew up - in that case, it should be somewhere in the Malaysia-Vietnam area c) Deliberately switched off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zubinpepsi Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 i think malaysia is hiding something here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roshanrocks Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 More than 5 days and still no definite clue, only theories and misinformation... cannot imagine the agony of the families of people aboard that ill-fated flight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Transport minister Hishammuddin Hussein : Chinese images "did not show any debris from MH370" Chinese satellite images that were said to show debris from a missing Malaysian airliner were released by mistake, Malaysia's transport minister says. Hishammuddin Hussein also denied a US report that the Boeing 777 might have flown for hours after contact with air traffic control was lost. Flight MH370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing went missing late on Friday, with 239 passengers and crew on board. The minister said the disappearance of the plane was unprecedented. Mr Hussein told reporters at Kuala Lumpur International Airport that the Chinese embassy in the Malaysian capital had said the satellite images were released by mistake and "did not show any debris from MH370". The three Chinese images appeared to show large, floating objects in the South China Sea The grainy satellite images were released by China's State Administration of Science on Wednesday. 'Everything was normal' Mr Hussein also denied a report in the Wall Street Journal that the plane had sent engine data to the ground for more than four hours after it lost contact with air traffic control. He said that his team had spoken to Malaysian Airlines and Rolls-Royce, the engine's manufacturers, who both said the report was "inaccurate". "The last transmission from the aircraft was at 01:07 which indicated that everything was normal," Mr Hussein said. He added that the aircraft had been fully serviced, with the last maintenance conducted on 23 February 2014. Mr Hussein said that efforts to locate the aircraft were ongoing, promising to "spare nothing in our efforts to find MH370". "There are currently 43 ships and 40 aircraft searching the South China Sea and Straits of Malacca," he said. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26559627 Something seriously wrong. Malaysia is disagreeing with both China Sat images and the US four hours engine report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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