bulbul Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 ^ not talking about honor & value..... Just saying fighting for awards is not worth the effort :winky: ps: i only use Cricinfo for cricket..so i know its worth.
velu Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Congrats to all sachin fans. Result was never in any doubt but still some souls were anxious. :giggle:
velu Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 :hatsoff: why people crying for menaingless awards :dontknow: Meaningless :giggle: Sachins leagacy was built mainly off the field . do these things matter.
CSK Fan Posted March 15, 2014 Author Posted March 15, 2014 Probably votes - before even the voting begins Sachin has like 40% in :giggle: Rett, I am trying to be extremely patient with you here but don't think anyone has forgotten the previous discussion we used to have where you were extremely sure that any batsmen in the world was better than Sachin. So you are fooling no one here Secondly, how do you even know other s didn't vote for Sachin There is a reason Sachin is there in almost every all time XI iand the world and not just cricinfo's. I know you will ignore this, but this is not just one jury who has decided that
maniac Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Congrats to all sachin fans. Result was never in any doubt but still some souls were anxious. :giggle: Yes,because some posers(NOT YOU) think it's cool to be anti-srt to make an impact in :winky: so proving them is always a releif. It's like taking an HIV test...you know you haven't done anything wrong or stupid but you are still anxious and always releived with a favorable result :winky:
CSK Fan Posted March 15, 2014 Author Posted March 15, 2014 no you don't but longevity alone should not be the reason for any award. And it is not unless you have any proof. The word longevity is only used by people like you when trying to discredit him When Sachin made Bradman's all time XI, how long had he played? He has made in to so many all time XI much before he played for 20 years. Wisden rated him as the second best after Bradman back in 2002. But yeah, ignore all that. It is just longevity, blah blah
CSK Fan Posted March 15, 2014 Author Posted March 15, 2014 So don't because you do not have a reasoning that is not on shaky ground. Mcgrath should have on that list. Kallis is dubious' date=' but I am puzzled why Mcgrath was not there. He is by far the best medium-fast bowler of all time.[/quote'] Yes because all those cricket experts who rated Sachin here, and in all those previous list are wrong and only some posters on internet sites are right and have more credibility
velu Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Checked the voters .. Only 6 or 7 are marque players and rest r sort of nobodies.
velu Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Looks like somebody is about to lose his temper .:giggle:
bulbul Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 @MTC,thats too harsh...take a break. [i know you will have same opinion about me as well :cantstop:]
zen Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 No it's not......Sorry to break it to you but ESPN network and the website CRICINFO in the cricketing world hold a lot of honor and value And that honorable network and website created a special award to specially give it Sachin. When was the last time such an award was given? When Lara, Ponting, etc. retired? When will the next one be given? May be for players who retire in 2014, 2015, .... :cantstop: I would have had no problem if they had just given it to Sachin, who is amongst the deserving candidate. Espn just needed to say that cricinfo staff believes that Sachin is one, why create this farce :dontknow:
Yoda-esque Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Checked the voters .. Only 6 or 7 are marque players and rest r sort of nobodies. Drop it,why spoil others happiness
maniac Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Checked the voters .. Only 6 or 7 are marque players and rest r sort of nobodies. Ian Chappell,Jayawardane,Barry Richards,Mark Taylor,Rahul dravid,VVS Laxman,Sanga,Younis Khan,Holding,Dujon,Boycott I already see more than 10 without even counting likes of Bell,Rameez and Manju so what are you talking about :facepalm:
bulbul Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Guys, its fine if Sachin get a award..what difference it makes? any way they can't give that award to Dhoni :giggle:
CSK Fan Posted March 15, 2014 Author Posted March 15, 2014 What is point of longevity if you are not performing, Sachin did jack after world cup in 2011 and he was playing on as if performance matters nothing as long as he was enjoying the game. This notion that Sachin did not win more because he was on bad team is bunch of baloney, Did anyone stop Sachin from hitting two centuries in the same test or scoring more than 500 runs in 3 test series. Sachin had one of his best years in 2010 and had the highest average in matches won when India reached no 1 in tests. He took too more years because he felt he still had something to contribute. Didn't work of course Sachin might not have done those things (scoring 500 runs in a series) but he did do lots of other things Fro example scoring 490 runs in a 2 match series which were more the norm for India in the 90s than 3-4 match series And know, as I said, so many of our matches turned into draws because of our bowling. Hitting even two double centuries won't help when your bowling cannot take 20 wickets Finally, when so many different kind of jury members, in so many different lists. From Bradman to Richards to Wisden to cricinfo, always place him higher than his peers, it is time to concede there might be something to it. We are not talking about one or two lists here. We are not talking about 1 or 2 opinions. We are talking about the great players to ever play, the most respected critics. And I would say there opinion is worth a tad bit more than ours
maniac Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Drop it' date='why spoil others happiness[/quote'] Cmon man just bcoz SRT said Mumbai belongs to everyone you don't have to go all "MNS" on him....You really think Kallis or Warne deserved an award over him?
zen Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 Rett, I am trying to be extremely patient with you here but don't think anyone has forgotten the previous discussion we used to have where you were extremely sure that any batsmen in the world was better than Sachin. So you are fooling no one here Secondly, how do you even know other s didn't vote for Sachin There is a reason Sachin is there in almost every all time XI iand the world and not just cricinfo's. I know you will ignore this, but this is not just one jury who has decided that Put your hand over your heart and tell me that ESPN-Cricinfo didn't create this award just to give it to Sachin .... Did we have such an award before or will we have one next year? who knows :don't know: As I said, they should have just given it to Sachin (who is deserving just like some of his peers) than creating this farce As fan, we should enjoy but ofc not act as if everything is fair and lovely because our player got it. And it is ugly, if he didn't (for e.g. Wisdon's top 100 innings) :winky: Anyways, enjoy :good:
CSK Fan Posted March 15, 2014 Author Posted March 15, 2014 Put your hand over your heart and tell me that ESPN-Cricinfo didn't create this award just to give it to Sachin .... Did we have such an award before or will we have one next year? who knows. As I said, they should have just given it to Sachin (who is deserving just like some of his peers) than creating this farce As fan, we should enjoy but ofc not act as if everything is fair and lovely because our player got it. And it is ugly, if he didn't (for e.g. Wisdon's top 100 innings) :winky: didn't Kallis just retire? Maybe the award was only for him, but he didn't get enough votes
Roshanrocks Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 And that honorable network and website created a special award to specially give it Sachin. When was the last time such an award was given? When Lara, Ponting, etc. retired? When will the next one be given? May be for players who retire in 2014, 2015, .... :cantstop: I would have had no problem if they had just given it to Sachin, who is amongst the deserving candidate. Espn just needed to say that cricinfo staff believes that Sachin is one, why create this farce :dontknow: They actually waited till Kallis retired... He was the last player of that generation. And it was Espncricinfo players of the generation award...Others can also come up with their own awards ....
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