Rajiv Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 No, this is not ' all true'. Human life is the most important for WHOM ? For you ? for me ? for human beings ? for nature ? In the grand scheme of things, human life is no more/less valid than any other life, really. This is a direct quote from Sri-Ram from Ramayan. To us ( unless animals start telling us ) obviously I haven't read the whole ramayan but I agree with Ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 I think god made human more precious.[/qutoe] Ah. yet another ignoramus, i see. God is a supposition. Not a fact. Says who? I wish... it was easy even for your kind..... But I am afraid.....keep trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongosamaj Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Says who? Says English language. Look up the definition of a supposition and of a fact. You will find that God fits the definition of a supposition, not that of a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 What english language has gotta do with it... Yaar.. Kam se kam jawab to thik see do... Tomorrow English language says it is okay to ..... Chal chhod... For your information, it was Rama who went to kill that Hirani...But before killing Ravana, he asked him to surrender and mentioned that he wont kill him if he surrenders. So does that mean Human life was treated same as animal life. Who was he killing that Hirini for?? For Museum??? This your so called English language, lacks the definition for "Nar Budhhi". You will find it in some of the Ancient scriptures. I hope you know what I mean.. If not cant help it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongosamaj Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 What english language has gotta do with it... Yaar.. Kam se kam jawab to thik see do... Tomorrow English language says it is okay to ..... English language has everything to do with it, since the words 'fact' and 'supposition' are words in English language ! By the very definition of those words, God cannot be a fact but can only be a supposition. So does that mean Human life was treated same as animal life. Who was he killing that Hirini for?? For Musium??? I am quoting that Ram-dude directly when he says all life is sacred and the same. That was in a conversation with Laxman ( as it is mentioned in teh story). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 English language has everything to do with it, since the words 'fact' and 'supposition' are words in English language ! By the very definition of those words, God cannot be a fact but can only be a supposition. I am quoting that Ram-dude directly when he says all life is sacred and the same. That was in a conversation with Laxman ( as it is mentioned in teh story). jus out of curiositiy, CC... do u have the guts to call allah-dude and prophet-dude... or buddha-dude? jus wondering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaurav Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 jus out of curiositiy, CC... do u have the guts to call allah-dude and prophet-dude... or buddha-dude? jus wondering... Not exactly DUDE but close enough :hysterical: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsZVO--Niog]YouTube - Beatles Hey Jude[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 gaurav, that singer in the video lookz like michael vaughan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gs Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Lennon looks stoned! :wink_smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongosamaj Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 jus out of curiositiy, CC... do u have the guts to call allah-dude and prophet-dude... or buddha-dude? jus wondering... On what ? Buddha was a dude. Allah is a figment of one's imagination. The 'prophets' wernt even dudes, they were psychos. Is that good enough ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongosamaj Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 (Check the link above where you say he was not a bad person but now you claim him to be a psycho)Psycho by modern standards. Not such a bad dood by 600 AD Arabia standards. How good/bad a person is can only be taken into account once the environment is taken into consideration. Clear enough ? PS: I said 'prophets'. As in all prophets. Including this Ram character or any other wannabe-Gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongosamaj Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 care to point out some acts by Ram which qualify him as a "psycho" ?Trying to 'blast the sea' into submission before building the supposed-bridge is as psycho as it gets. Tossing his wife out because of accusations of fidelity by strangers is as psycho as it gets, especially after spilling the blood of countless people to get his wife back. Killing a righteous king ( Bali) simply coz of Sugriv's allegations ( no verification of the allegations undertaken) just to win an ally is as psycho as it gets. Don't get me wrong, i am not equating Ram with Mo. I think Ram was mostly a decent guy with some shortcommings while Mo was the other way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongosamaj Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Why because it killed a lot of fish ?1. Yes, because Ram himself said that all life comes from the same source and thus is sacred, thus making his previous act psycho. 2. Trying to 'blast the sea' is a sure sign of madness, as mad as trying to shoot the air. Psychos are unhinged that way, thinking they can control the uncontrollable. He apologized to her later .... psychos dont do such things.Sure they do. Ted Bundy apologized for his serial-killings too when finally caught. Robert Pickton has aplogized for chopping up women & feeding them to the pigs. The dood who killed so many children in Noida and his accomplice also apologized. I call it 'apology when busted to save face' syndrome. And whether he apologized later or not, fact remains his action towards Sita was that of a total napunsak/chauvinist psycho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 I didnt know you are CC.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongosamaj Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Not when his wife's life is in jeopardy .... its not like he had a Boeing A380 that he could use to fly his army to Lanka ...The same wife he tossed away like yesterday's rubbish ? Pffft. Thats a hypocrite right there. Besides, YES, trying to blast the sea is madness. No less mad than Saddam trying to light fire to the gulf of Persia or some mad nutter wanting to blow up the sun. Ie, MAD. psycho is a form of madness afterall. The same kind of madness that leads someone to believe they are God-incarnate. First of all he adopted procedure before sending her off not just by his whims ... secondly ... he did not kill her or cause bodily harm to her ... so yeah not a psycho or chauvinist ...It is 100% chauvinist to take the word of a stranger-man over that of his wife. 100% psycho to toss her out based on a man's word. And regardless of what procedure he adopted, it was till procedure based on his whims. HE decieded that it was apparently correct to toss out his wife based on allegations of a stranger. HE decieded the process and it was very much his whim that decieded it. And no, he didn't kill her. He got countless people killed for a woman he decieded to toss out based on stranger's allegations. Psychos dont always kill their victims either- some choose to condemn them to a life of suffering. There are psychos who'll lock up a person in a dungeon for years too, so not killing her has nothing to do with his psycho-ness IMO. PS: I notice you completely ignored the Bali-Sugriv angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongosamaj Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 I didnt know you are CC.... Who ? Me ? Never said I was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineleg Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 I didnt know you are CC.... Somethings are not to be explicitly said :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Guys, can we stop discussing the pros and cons of religious icons and get back to the OP? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX_1138 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 There is a good article in the National Geographic this time around describing the benefits of controlled and regulated hunting in the united states (as to how it is only permitted in certain season, only permitted to those with a permit, and only for small specified animals such as quail, ducks etc) and how the proceeds from the hunting are spent significantly towards environmental and wildlife conservation. nonetheless, i cannot personally find it in me to condone this habit and i feel that any sport that provides delight to the participant at the expense of the life of another living organism is an abomination. just look at the other side of the coin. if a foreign alien species was to visit the earth and decided on hunting us to limit our numbers to a managable lot but promised to use the proceeds from human hunting towards our conservation, not many of us would welcome that plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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