yoda Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 How does a guy who seems as well spoken, articulate and seemingly a good politician lose an election when his party literally swept the elections?
BeautifulGame Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Because he found himself against a very strong candidate.These things happen. Poor choice of LS seat.Should have contested from Delhi
Sachin=GOD Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Akalis, especially Bikram Majithia (who is very unpopular right now) managed his campaign - that cost him. He is a complete outsider with absolutely no relation to Punjab. Capt. Amrindar Singh is one of the most well known faces in Punjab and has fought many elections while it was the first ever election for Jaitley. This loss shouldn't hurt his position at all IMO.
BeautifulGame Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Maybe Jaitley should have borrowed Shah from UP for a couple of days
bulbul Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Happens....may be he didnt thought a strong candidate will contest against him.
Number Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 **** happens. :(( They first thought Amritsar would be safe also Akalis also gave their input that he will win from there. Anywhere else in North India(barring Amethi-RB), he would have easily won.
avicric Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 This win has bought amrinder from the dead.he can now be the lop.
Brainfade Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 How does a guy who seems as well spoken' date= articulate and seemingly a good politician lose an election when his party literally swept the elections? Can he govern?
Number Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 This win has bought amrinder from the dead.he can now be the lop. Hello Sir, What about your sources ? BJP < 30 in UP. <25 in MH. Total < 180 and Cong > 125.
Mariyam Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Can he govern? Exactly!! Its a very urban upper middle class sensibility which finds a suave, articulate ( in English especially) , well spoken, well groomed leader as the ultimate saviour/governor. Guys like these are good behind the scenes, or maybe even with portfolios like the Foreign Ministry. But when it comes to governance the aforementioned skills hardly matter. Yeah,for people with such skills an alternate career penning a bestseller about the secret cabals in the party power corridors beckons. :P I'd say the same about Mani Shankar Iyer and Shashi Tharoor.
asterix Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 One of my friend in Punjab told me that majority of the rural Amritsar folks, especially Sikhs, voted for Captain... It was an outright bad strategy to give Jaitley the Amritsar seat. He could've been given a safe seat in Rajasthan or MP...
Sachin=GOD Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 @those saying it was an unsafe seat and he should have contested from Delhi etc - it was a completely safe seat but became unsafe AFTER Capt. Amrindar Singh was announced as Cong candidate.
asterix Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Can he govern? What do you mean by that? The previous MP (for that any MP), Siddhu was able to Govern? Do MPs need to govern? Governing is done by Babus... He could've won from any seat in Delhi...
ravishingravi Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 It was a wrong decision to not give Sidhu the chance here. One of the rare mistakes.
Brainfade Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 What do you mean by that? The previous MP (for that any MP), Siddhu was able to Govern? Do MPs need to govern? Governing is done by Babus... He could've won from any seat in Delhi... <> Dreaded double post :(
Brainfade Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 What do you mean by that? The previous MP (for that any MP), Siddhu was able to Govern? Do MPs need to govern? Governing is done by Babus... He could've won from any seat in Delhi... Sorry I upset you. I was only trying to point out that "articulate, well-spoken, charming, charismatic etc." don't necessarily translate into being a good grassroots politician or someone who can get things done. As I have become more distanced from Indian politics and more attuned to American politics, I have noticed one common denominator - charisma is over-rated.
bulbul Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 It was a wrong decision to not give Sidhu the chance here. One of the rare mistakes. Lot of complaints against Sidhu for not even seen in Amritsar.I guess there is even mock police complaint against them.
Brainfade Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Exactly!! Its a very urban upper middle class sensibility which finds a suave, articulate ( in English especially) , well spoken, well groomed leader as the ultimate saviour/governor. Guys like these are good behind the scenes, or maybe even with portfolios like the Foreign Ministry. But when it comes to governance the aforementioned skills hardly matter. Yeah,for people with such skills an alternate career penning a bestseller about the secret cabals in the party power corridors beckons. :P I'd say the same about Mani Shankar Iyer and Shashi Tharoor. Nailed it!
asterix Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Sorry I upset you. I was only trying to point out that "articulate, well-spoken, charming, charismatic etc." don't necessarily translate into being a good grassroots politician or someone who can get things done. I know less and less about Indian politics since I left 22 yrs ago, but have come to By articulate etc, it was meant that he was actually the Leader of opposition in Rajya Sabha and had been visible on Live debates.... But it seems it was too much to ask for from the intelligent folks Amritsar...
Mariyam Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 It was a wrong decision to not give Sidhu the chance here. One of the rare mistakes. As much as I like Sidhu the entertainer, from my Punjabi friends all I could gather is that his stock was at an all time low. For one he was involved in hitting and kidnapping some toll booth worker. Add that to the fact that the popular perception is that he isn't really into the local problems. When he was selected, it was this macho image of a fighting figure, a never say die cricketer who walked out of the team ( under Azhar's captaincy. or was it Ganguly's? ) and stood for what he believed in. Now his image is primarily that of an entertainer (Comedy Nights) slash commentator, which may not go too well with the psyche of the common voter there. As in they may still like him, but he isn't viewed as leadership material.
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