someone Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Why Modi Lied ? Exposed by Founder of Issai Mazhalai Another lie by Modi, MSM please make sure to report it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Controversy about Sushma Swaraj now. Lalit Modi's wife had cancer and had to have an operation in Portugal but UPA Govt had said to England that if he was allowed to leave then it could impact India's relations with Britain. So she told that British Govt that if it chose to give travel documents to him it would not have any effect on India's relations with Britain. Various parties are asking for her resignation over this. IMO this is an inside job by some senior BJP leader. She has done a really good job as Foreign minister so far so I'm sure resignation won't even be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Controversy about Sushma Swaraj now. Lalit Modi's wife had cancer and had to have an operation in Portugal but UPA Govt had said to England that if he was allowed to leave then it could impact India's relations with Britain. So she told that British Govt that if it chose to give travel documents to him it would not have any effect on India's relations with Britain. Various parties are asking for her resignation over this. IMO this is an inside job by some senior BJP leader. She has done a really good job as Foreign minister so far so I'm sure resignation won't even be considered. Court had asked govt. to give back Lalit Modi his passport but the UPA kept dillying Dallying.Its no secret that Lalit Modi is a BJP man so UPA can go and you know............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Court had asked govt. to give back Lalit Modi his passport but the UPA kept dillying Dallying.Its no secret that Lalit Modi is a BJP man so UPA can go and you know............. More than BJP man he tweeted against Tharoor scam because of which UPA went after him. To guess who might be that insider check Lalit Modi's tweets loathing Jaitley.:cantstop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiret Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 200 Year old Temples destroyed to make way for metro in Jaipur. Thank Beelzebub , that KHANgress is not in power . Otherwise a certain section of the populace would have gone bonkers blaming Sonia , Jawaharlal Nehru , Edwina mountbatten and the Vatican http://m.indiatimes.com/news/india/200-year-old-temples-destroyed-so-that-jaipur-can-have-its-metro-233565.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 SP, BSP and RJD have all come out in support of Sushma Swaraj. Cong is isolated in its call for her resignation. :nice: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 200 Year old Temples destroyed to make way for metro in Jaipur. Thank Beelzebub , that KHANgress is not in power . Otherwise a certain section of the populace would have gone bonkers blaming Sonia , Jawaharlal Nehru , Edwina mountbatten and the Vatican http://m.indiatimes.com/news/india/200-year-old-temples-destroyed-so-that-jaipur-can-have-its-metro-233565.html You want to say Congress ruled govt in any state never ever moved a temple for any projects ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 SP' date=' BSP and RJD have all come out in support of Sushma Swaraj. Cong is isolated in its call for her resignation. :nice:[/quote'] Kahan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Kahan? If someone's wife has cancer,needs to be taken fr treatment&Sushmaji helped on humanitarian grounds,what's wrong in that? Ram Gopal Yadav,SP Person like Sushma Swaraj should not be demonized so early, matter should be investigated properly: Manoj Jha (RJD) I was wrong about BSP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 200 Year old Temples destroyed to make way for metro in Jaipur. Thank Beelzebub , that KHANgress is not in power . Otherwise a certain section of the populace would have gone bonkers blaming Sonia , Jawaharlal Nehru , Edwina mountbatten and the Vatican http://m.indiatimes.com/news/india/200-year-old-temples-destroyed-so-that-jaipur-can-have-its-metro-233565.html On the other hand if a mosque would have been destroyed, there would have been a completely new thread here about Modi the Muslim hater destroying mosques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalpat Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 If someone's wife has cancer,needs to be taken fr treatment&Sushmaji helped on humanitarian grounds,what's wrong in that? Ram Gopal Yadav,SP Person like Sushma Swaraj should not be demonized so early, matter should be investigated properly: Manoj Jha (RJD) I was wrong about BSP. Let's pause for a moment and understand the time line of events here: 1. Mrs. Swaraj knows Mr. Lalit Modi. Many people do. 2. Mr. Lalit Modi is wanted for a IPL corruption case. 3. He "escaped" to the UK using his contacts in the Labour party 4. UPA government impounded his passport and issued a lookout notice 5. Delhi HC quashed this order as unconstitutional and restored Mr. Modi's passport 6. Even then, by virtue of still being in the UK (passport needed to be reapplied for & reissued to) Mr. Modi technically does not hold Indian passport and thus needed special permission/documents to fly out to any other country from there. 7. Mr. Modi's wife was diagnosed with cancer and had to travel to Portugal for treatment. He wanted to be there too (for her & to sign the consent papers) 8. UK government was ready to provide him with necessary travel documents but was hesitant as it had a probable effect on Indo-UK bilateral ties (you know, UK allowing a wanted Indian fugitive to travel). 8. In July 2014, Mr. Modi reached out to Mrs. Swaraj and made an appeal. 9. She then stated that if British government wanted to issue Mr. Modi travel papers to go to Portugal, on humanitarian grounds, they could, as per British laws. Bilateral ties wouldn't be affected. So first of all, this is NOT corruption, This is NOT a big expose. This is NOT a controversy. This is NOT impropriety. This is not even an issue. This is Mrs. Swaraj simply doing her duty as the External Affairs Minister of India. And the most important point to note in this whole thing is point number 5 in the above timeline that you will find opposition parties (and the media) deliberately ignore. Mr. Lalit Modi as of today is a legitimate Indian citizen in the UK and there is noway, absolutely noway, he can be stopped from travelling if a sovereign state like the UK so chooses to. Mrs. Swaraj is the best thing that could happen to this council of ministers. She is a star performer in this government in my opinion. And once again, she appears to have done what any other sane foreign minister should have done. And I am absolutely, 100% behind her on this decision. The controversy around whether Mr. Lalit Modi is guilty of corruption, is a fugitive, should be extradited to face criminal proceedings in India or not, is a completely separate matter. So please please, do not be a fool and mix the two up, just because Shri Shri Rai Bahadur Holy Arnab Gowami is asking you to. Whatever the case may be, i.e. if Sushma Swaraj has allowed the travel or recommended for that, was all correct in humanitarian view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 On the other hand if a mosque would have been destroyed' date=' there would have been a completely new thread here about Modi the Muslim hater destroying mosques.[/quote'] IIRC, Same thing happened in Gujrat under Modi. A lot of temples had to give way for development. However I dont support 200 year old temple to be destroyed. Such buildings need to be protected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterTheVoid Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 The corporate prostitutes and boot lickers have promulgated the land ordinance again. Fly in jets owned by Adani and snatch away land from its owners to fund the fueling and maintenance costs. You think if you werent the founder and admin of this website you would get away calling people prostitutes? Ignore that senile old fart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbestfriend Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Let's pause for a moment and understand the time line of events here: 1. Mrs. Swaraj knows Mr. Lalit Modi. Many people do. 2. Mr. Lalit Modi is wanted for a IPL corruption case. 3. He "escaped" to the UK using his contacts in the Labour party 4. UPA government impounded his passport and issued a lookout notice 5. Delhi HC quashed this order as unconstitutional and restored Mr. Modi's passport 6. Even then, by virtue of still being in the UK (passport needed to be reapplied for & reissued to) Mr. Modi technically does not hold Indian passport and thus needed special permission/documents to fly out to any other country from there. 7. Mr. Modi's wife was diagnosed with cancer and had to travel to Portugal for treatment. He wanted to be there too (for her & to sign the consent papers) 8. UK government was ready to provide him with necessary travel documents but was hesitant as it had a probable effect on Indo-UK bilateral ties (you know, UK allowing a wanted Indian fugitive to travel). 8. In July 2014, Mr. Modi reached out to Mrs. Swaraj and made an appeal. 9. She then stated that if British government wanted to issue Mr. Modi travel papers to go to Portugal, on humanitarian grounds, they could, as per British laws. Bilateral ties wouldn't be affected. So first of all, this is NOT corruption, This is NOT a big expose. This is NOT a controversy. This is NOT impropriety. This is not even an issue. This is Mrs. Swaraj simply doing her duty as the External Affairs Minister of India. And the most important point to note in this whole thing is point number 5 in the above timeline that you will find opposition parties (and the media) deliberately ignore. Mr. Lalit Modi as of today is a legitimate Indian citizen in the UK and there is noway, absolutely noway, he can be stopped from travelling if a sovereign state like the UK so chooses to. Mrs. Swaraj is the best thing that could happen to this council of ministers. She is a star performer in this government in my opinion. And once again, she appears to have done what any other sane foreign minister should have done. And I am absolutely, 100% behind her on this decision. The controversy around whether Mr. Lalit Modi is guilty of corruption, is a fugitive, should be extradited to face criminal proceedings in India or not, is a completely separate matter. So please please, do not be a fool and mix the two up, just because Shri Shri Rai Bahadur Holy Arnab Gowami is asking you to. Whatever the case may be, i.e. if Sushma Swaraj has allowed the travel or recommended for that, was all correct in humanitarian view. It is not so simple as you are making it. Fact is Lalit Modi is a fraudster , and Indian investigative agencies are on lookout for him. First of all , British government is wrong to give asylum to a indian fugitive who is running away from law. Indian govt must have done all the effort to get him back, using diplomatic relations. By saying govt has no problem with his travel to anywhere, Govt is communicating that he is not a criminal. It sets a wrong precedent for fianncial fraudsters to run away to west country if the Indian law tries to catch them, and use their political influence to travel all over the world :) What is his incentive to come back to India? Virtulally he is acquitted by Sushma Swaraj. It is not like he has not travelled to Portugal before, with the help of British govt's travel document. He has tweeted on Jun last year that he visited Portugal. Also considering Sushma's daughter is in legal counsel for Lalit Modi, this is more complex than you are making it out as "humanitarian". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiret Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 "@MalayD FTII's Governing Council too has propagandist tw*ts like Anagha Ghaisas & Shailesh Gupta who made this horses**t " YFcFT12CoAw :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiret Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Lalit Modi wrote to Keith Vaz, a British lawmaker : “Mrs Sushma Swaraj called to see if we can do anything to help her nephew get into the law program at Sussex. Can you help with this." No quid pro quo .:hmmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 If someone's wife has cancer,needs to be taken fr treatment&Sushmaji helped on humanitarian grounds,what's wrong in that? Ram Gopal Yadav,SP Person like Sushma Swaraj should not be demonized so early, matter should be investigated properly: Manoj Jha (RJD) I was wrong about BSP. Sushma Swaraj would get more trouble from inside BJP then from outside. Likes of Smirti Irani and other Modi loyalist would desperately want to see her out. In between it has come out that Sushma Swaraj's husband has been lawyer for Lalit Modi for more than 20 years. There could be more than what meets eye here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Sushma Swaraj would get more trouble from inside BJP then from outside. Likes of Smirti Irani and other Modi loyalist would desperately want to see her out. In between it has come out that Sushma Swaraj's husband has been lawyer for Lalit Modi for more than 20 years. There could be more than what meets eye here. Oh sure. This is definitely an inside job. Most people think its Jaitley. His biggest weakness is that he can't stop playing these political games. The people involved in this were Sushma Swaraj (who hasn't had a great relationship with Jaitley) and Lalit Modi (who has been tweeting and writing against Jaitley since the day he ran away to London) so I won't be surprised if it was Jaitley who had this leaked. As far as the matter itself is concerned - IMO she should have done this openly (whenever someone tweets her about their passport/visa issues she replies on twitter - a simple tweet to Lalit Modi would have been enough to make the matter public without making a big fuss) instead of not telling anyone. That's why it looks suspicious. Other than that I don't see anything wrong in this. She didn't ask/force the British Govt to give him travel papers, she just said that India-Britain relations would not suffer if Britain chose to give him travel documents. It might have been quid pro quo if she had asked the British Govt to give him travel documents or asked the ED in India to drop its case so he could come back or something like that. This really is a small matter being made into a very big matter by the media, especially Arnab. The media is addicted to scams as they get lots and lots of news cycles out of it but scams are one area where they haven't got anything in NDA Govt till now so when they got this small issue they're trying to make it look like a huge controversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 BTW one really interesting thing that has happened here is that the gloves are off within the media - earlier channels/journalists did not criticize other channels/anchors or did so without taking any names. This time many prominent journalists (Rahul Kanwal, Rajdeep, Burkha etc) have openly attacked Arnab/Times Now for its disgraceful coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalpat Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 BTW one really interesting thing that has happened here is that the gloves are off within the media - earlier channels/journalists did not criticize other channels/anchors or did so without taking any names. This time many prominent journalists (Rahul Kanwal' date=' Rajdeep, Burkha etc) have openly attacked Arnab/Times Now for its disgraceful coverage.[/quote'] The discussion on Barkha's show of Buck Stops Here was much better than any other show. This 45 minute program was more informative then 24-hrs rant of Times Now. At last everyone except ofcourse BJP and Congress panelist agreed that "What Sushma Swaraj did was surely a mis judgement from her side and she did not followed all the procedures and also this is not something on which somebody should resign". I guess a fair assesment. One more interesting development is, I was always under the assumption that Navika Kumar the journalist from Times Now who broke this story is someone who is very close to Mr Modi. She always had provided Breaking News which have been Pro-Modi. Even Arnab Goswami however impartial he may seen but I always felt he has soft corner for Narendra Modi not for BJP mind it but surely for Modi. A conspiracy from government side cannot be ruled out in totality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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