ICC rules out changes to ODI rules before World Cup

[Straight Drive]

Reference: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/729895.html India has found it tough ever since this two balls rule was implemented. iirc our team conceded about thirteen 300+ scores since this rule change ? With the two new balls we often find it tough to use 2 spinners to their maximum potential because the ball stays new for longer time now. Hence, it often becomes pointless to introduce spinner before 25 overs are bowled at least because each ball is just about 12 overs old and spinners can't make proper use of 12 overs old ball. Add to it the field restrictions. Now that the ICC has ruled out changing the rule until the 2015 ODI WC is over, we need to think a lot about the bowling attack composition.

[Cricket_Hacker]

Reverse swing has been taken out of the equation too

[Straight Drive]

Reverse swing has been taken out of the equation too

Good point. The longer the ball stays new, tougher it is to get the reverse. That makes our usually weaker pace bowling attack less effective.

[rkt.india]

Reference: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/729895.html India has found it tough ever since this two balls rule was implemented. iirc our team conceded about thirteen 300+ scores since this rule change ? With the two new balls we often find it tough to use 2 spinners to their maximum potential because the ball stays new for longer time now. Hence, it often becomes pointless to introduce spinner before 25 overs are bowled at least because each ball is just about 12 overs old and spinners can't make proper use of 12 overs old ball. Add to it the field restrictions. Now that the ICC has ruled out changing the rule until the 2015 ODI WC is over, we need to think a lot about the bowling attack composition.

2 new balls have ruled out reverse swing too which was a big weapon for pacers.

[Straight Drive]

I thought the clout BCCI has, it would help us in getting rules amended. Sadly, not until the major tourney. Dhoni had objected to these rules before they were implemented. We have to face this unfavorable rules (for us) during the 2015 WC and prepare for it.

[sachin34357]

is UDRS going to be used this time in the WC

[Gollum]

Reverse swing in Aus is a rarity anyways.

[Straight Drive]

Reverse swing in Aus is a rarity anyways.

I have seen bowlers get even 2-3 balls to reverse every over in Australia. That is decent enough reverse every over. Bowlers who have ability to get reverse have got it in Australia as well. For India Umesh Yadav and Zak are the ones who get good reverse.

[rkt.india]

I have seen bowlers get even 2-3 balls to reverse every over in Australia. That is decent enough reverse every over. Bowlers who have ability to get reverse have got it in Australia as well. For India Umesh Yadav and Zak are the ones who get good reverse.

Shami and Aaron too.

[fineleg]

I thought the clout BCCI has' date= it would help us in getting rules amended. Sadly, not until the major tourney. Dhoni had objected to these rules before they were implemented. We have to face this unfavorable rules (for us) during the 2015 WC and prepare for it.

that clout is only used for securing icc 'jobs" like icc ceo, president etc. or how to divvy money... not for cricket the game.

[AmreekanDesi]

a pace attack of aaron, umesh and bhuvi might actually do the trick with the assistance on aussie pitches.

[Straight Drive]

that clout is only used for securing icc 'jobs" like icc ceo, president etc. or how to divvy money... not for cricket the game.

imo the change of using two balls was welcome. Teams have now realized what there strengths and weaknesses are with different rules. Also good for the fans as we get to see captains being forced to change team combinations and strategy rather than having to watch monotonous captaincy decisions and team combinations.Different skills come into play as well due to such changes. keeps cricketers on their toes and forces them to make continuous improvements.

[Straight Drive]

Shami and Aaron too.

So we would have enough bowlers from WC squad who at least have the ability to get reverse.

[rkt.india]

imo the change of using two balls was welcome. Teams have now realized what there strengths and weaknesses are with different rules. Also good for the fans as we get to see captains being forced to change team combinations and strategy rather than having to watch monotonous captaincy decisions and team combinations.Different skills come into play as well due to such changes. keeps cricketers on their toes and forces them to make continuous improvements.

Two new balls have made the game even more batting friendly because pitches in LOIs are more on flatter side that makes 2 new balls a favor for batsmen and even if there is early assistance, if they lose some quick wickets in first 10-15 overs, they easily come back later once the balls stops doing things and because of field restrictions, they can still score big. Bowlers have been murdered in both the scenarios. Reverse swing and old ball was the biggest weapon bowler had before.

[rkt.india]

So we would have enough bowlers from WC squad who at least have the ability to get reverse.

But not with 2 new balls. It will need really rough conditions to get reverse so early.

[Straight Drive]

But not with 2 new balls. It will need really rough conditions to get reverse so early.

Perhaps at Perth.

Two new balls have made the game even more batting friendly because pitches in LOIs are more on flatter side that makes 2 new balls a favor for batsmen and even if there is early assistance' date=' if they lose some quick wickets in first 10-15 overs, they easily come back later once the balls stops doing things and because of field restrictions, they can still score big. Bowlers have been murdered in both the scenarios. Reverse swing and old ball was the biggest weapon bowler had before.[/quote'] There is a rise in number of batting wickets being prepared. However, spin bowlers are definitely suffering more than pacers due to this two balls rule.

[rkt.india]

Perhaps at Perth. There is a rise in number of batting wickets being prepared. However, spin bowlers are definitely suffering more than pacers due to this two balls rule.

Spinners are hurt in terms if wickets, pacers in terms of runs as they bowl in PPs and at death.

[thongale]

I'd like if the ODI cricket reverted back to red ball. The sudden rise of number of great cricketers coincides with red ball ODI cricket and a gradual fall once white ball is used. Kapil. SRT, Kumble, Murali, Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Soaib, Javed,.Ambrose, Walsh, Viv, Marshall, Holding, Lara Ponting, McGrath, Warne, Gilchrist, Donald, Pollock, Hadlee and Flower All had careers starting in the red ball era within 30 years. How many had white ball era produced? Can't think many other than Kallis, Sanga, Dravid, Chanders, De Villiers, Steyn and Kohli sice 2000=2014 era.

[fineleg]

^ isnt kookabura red ball = kookabura white ball duke red = duke white sg red = sg white other than color whats the difference??? same manufg specs, except color? Would like to know the diffrnce.

[Straight Drive]

^ isnt kookabura red ball = kookabura white ball duke red = duke white sg red = sg white other than color whats the difference??? same manufg specs, except color? Would like to know the diffrnce.

Color is indeed a difference. With the advent of day night cricket , white ball is better for sighting in some matches. The other differences between red and white cricket ball is that the white one has more shine which allows it to swing longer, although Kookabura claims that the white and red ball are similar in all aspects except for the dye used for the purpose of color. The white ball is slightly harder than the red ball.