tweaker Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: This combination of Bumrah, Prasidh and Chahar is looking good in ODIs. Bumrah with his extra pace and yorkers, Prasidh with his extra bounce at pace and Deepak with his swing. If we had a trundler in Place of Prasidh, the attack would have become innocuous. At least 2 quick pacers are a must even in white ball cricket. Next series Avesh Khan should be bowling with Prasidh and Chahar. Bumrah should be rested Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 Fiery 4th over by Prasidh again. Lots of bounce and zip off the deck. That 138 kph bouncer to deKock looked very quick and almost felled keeper Pant. Made vd Dussen hop a lot too. Mosher 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, tweaker said: Next series Avesh Khan should be bowling with Prasidh and Chahar. Bumrah should be rested Yes ... and Siraj in place of Bumrah, if fit. Mosher and tweaker 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) Prasidh should just bowl back of a length and short stuff in white ball cricket. Stop going for swing or bowl full. Edited January 23, 2022 by express bowling Mosher 1 Link to comment
Mosher Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, express bowling said: Prasidh should just bowl back of a length and short stuff. Stop going for swing. Yes, batsman are finding the bounce hot to handle when Prasidh hits the pitch. Needs to keep hitting the pitch hard and then bowl a good yorker which he is good at. express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 Now Bumrah generating good bounce after seeing Prasidh. This is what happens. You become like the people you " mingle " with. Mosher 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mosher said: Yes, batsman are finding the bounce hot to handle when Prasidh hits the pitch. Needs to keep hitting the pitch hard and then bowl a good yorker which he is good at. Yes ... and totally stop bowling those full deliveries fuller than 6 m unless it's an attempted yorker. Mosher 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, sarchasm said: Bumrah, Prasidh, Siraj, as first choice quicks is blindingly obvious to me. Chahar is a release bowler, same as Bhuvi. Do not be fooled by his wickets here and there. With Pandya's bowling gone and batting shaky, we need better seam AR options. Exactly ! Deepak is no long term or even medium term solution. He looks very innocuous when the ball stops moving and he is very floaty. Siraj should be there in his place. We just need an off spinner or wrist spinner who can bat at 8. 7. Jadeja / Axar 8. Spinner who can bat a bit. 9. Bumrah 10. Prasidh 11. Siraj Can be deadly. Sticking with Ashwin at 8 can be done for the time being for this reason. Edited January 23, 2022 by express bowling Mosher 1 Link to comment
Adamant Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, express bowling said: This combination of Bumrah, Prasidh and Chahar is looking good in ODIs. Bumrah with his extra pace and yorkers, Prasidh with his extra bounce at pace and Deepak with his swing. If we had a trundler in Place of Prasidh, the attack would have become innocuous. At least 2 quick pacers are a must even in white ball cricket. Inclusion of Siraj would make this attack even better but it's just that Bumrah, Prasidh and Siraj can't bat. Also our specialist spinner prospects are all noobs with the bat. Can't have 4 tailenders. Edited January 23, 2022 by Adamant Link to comment
Adamant Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, express bowling said: Exactly ! Deepak is no long term or even medium term solution. He looks very innocuous when the ball stops moving and he is very floaty. Siraj should be there in his place. We just need an off spinner or wrist spinner who can bat at 8. 7. Jadeja / Axar 8. Spinner who can bat a bit. 9. Bumrah 10. Prasidh 11. Siraj Can be deadly. Sticking with Ashwin at 8 can be done for the time being for this reason. The next world cup is in India, it would be a bad move if we go without a specialist spinner. We need a good spinner but yeah we don't have many options as of now so going with Jaddu Ashwin at 7 - 8 or even Jaddu Axar at 7-8 could be an okay move. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, sarchasm said: Yes, an all round relentless attack is always more than the sum of its parts. The batsman gets no release, he cannot wait out the tough bowlers. The whole mindset gets messed up. Right now, I have no doubt bowling with the likes of Bhuvi and Chahar diminishes Bumrah's effectiveness. Agree totally ! Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 First 4 overs of Prasidh were fiery & top draw. KL Rahul is stupid & didn't give him an extra over. Had RVD in all sorts during that period. express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Adamant said: The next world cup is in India, it would be a bad move if we go without a specialist spinner. We need a good spinner but yeah we don't have many options as of now so going with Jaddu Ashwin at 7 - 8 or even Jaddu Axar at 7-8 could be an okay move. Ashwin and Jadeja / Axar would be 2 specialist spinners. Given the fact that we haven't yet found anyone who is clearly better, this may not be too bad if we want a relentless pace attack. Have always wondered whether it's possible to play Jadeja and Axar together in ODIs. Don't know if the TM would actually play 2 LAO spinners together. Mosher 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Lone Wolf said: First 4 overs of Prasidh were fiery & top draw. KL Rahul is stupid & didn't give him an extra over. Had RVD in all sorts during that period. Exactly ! Link to comment
Adamant Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, express bowling said: Ashwin and Jadeja / Axar would be 2 specialist spinners. Given the fact that we haven't yet found anyone who is clearly better, this may not be too bad if we want a relentless pace attack. Have always wondered whether it's possible to play Jadeja and Axar together in ODIs. Don't know if the TM would actually play 2 LAO spinners together. If we wanna play 2 spin allrounders then we should rather play Jadeja and Axar, coz atleast both can hit boundaries and Axar is very difficult to hit. If we play these two then I won't really be sure about our spin bowling performance but atleast our pace bowling would be great, I mean Bumrah, Siraj, Prasidh/Shami is a really good pace unit. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Adamant said: Inclusion of Siraj would make this attack even better but it's just that Bumrah, Prasidh and Siraj can't bat. Also our specialist spinner prospects are all noobs with the bat. Can't have 4 tailenders. It's largely true. As Ashwin's SR and hitting ability has increased in recent times, he maybe ok at 8. Let's see. Jadeja / Axar are quite ok.at 7 Edited January 23, 2022 by express bowling Mosher 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Adamant said: If we wanna play 2 spin allrounders then we should rather play Jadeja and Axar, coz atleast both can hit boundaries and Axar is very difficult to hit. Personally, I don't mind at all as we don't have any ready strike bowlers among spinners for LOIs. 3 minutes ago, Adamant said: If we play these two then I won't really be sure about our spin bowling performance but atleast our pace bowling would be great, I mean Bumrah, Siraj, Prasidh/Shami is a really good pace unit. True. I really want the TM to develop Prasidh as his extra bounce would pose a very different threat to the opposition. Lining up 3 pacers, with different bounce levels, won't be easy. Give Prasidh a lot of games on the trot and let him settle down. tweaker and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Forward Defence Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Very decent returns for Prasidh. Has a wicked slower delivery. Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 Good bowling at the death by Prasidh, especially as he is playing after a long time. But, as @sarchasm said above, he should focus more on his strengths like bowling quick yorkers and rising short balls ( which he did use ) 3 wickets for 59 is quite good in a highish scoring match. Mosher and sarchasm 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 That 145 kph indipping yorker by Bumrah looked very quick visually. Was very accurate too. Mosher 1 Link to comment
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