Dhoni overused Bhubaneswar and shami -Agarkar

[vvvslaxman]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/761753.html

[fineleg]

MSDhobi is a fast bowler's nightmare. Either will under-use them. Or 1-over spells to injure them. Or over-use them. He has no clue abt fast bowlers.

[undisputed chap]

His hand was forced. Only chance of us picking up wickets was bhuvi bowling with the new ball otherwise england would have been 280/3 in a comfortable position going onto day 3. Clearly when you have inconsistent shami, useless ishant, not even test class jadeja & binny that's the only thing that could save us. But still some people are now defending these poor performances not even bothering to look at the real problem.

[vvvslaxman]

His hand was forced. Only chance of us picking up wickets was bhuvi bowling with the new ball otherwise england would have been 280/3 in a comfortable position going onto day 3. Clearly when you have inconsistent shami, useless ishant, not even test class jadeja & binny that's the only thing that could save us. But still some people are now defending these poor performances not even bothering to look at the real problem.

Pretty much all commies were of the view he overused them. Second of all this is not the first time he did. In this very series out of first 100 overs Binny bowled 4 or 5 overs who was picked as 5th bowling option. These two tests are not isolated.

[fineleg]

His hand was forced. Only chance of us picking up wickets was bhuvi bowling with the new ball otherwise england would have been 280/3 in a comfortable position going onto day 3. Clearly when you have inconsistent shami, useless ishant, not even test class jadeja & binny that's the only thing that could save us. But still some people are now defending these poor performances not even bothering to look at the real problem.

you said , "clearly when u have..."why do we have them? coz the moron dhobi will pick the buffoons in 11. He himself (msd) is wasting a spot in 11. 4 out of 11 spots are wasted. And u overwork bhuvi and kill him.

[BlueBee]

His hand was forced. Only chance of us picking up wickets was bhuvi bowling with the new ball otherwise england would have been 280/3 in a comfortable position going onto day 3. Clearly when you have inconsistent shami, useless ishant, not even test class jadeja & binny that's the only thing that could save us. But still some people are now defending these poor performances not even bothering to look at the real problem.

What on Earth, dude? Dhoni clearly overused the bowlers. You must be a Dhoni fan ?

[undisputed chap]

you said , "clearly when u have..."why do we have them? coz the moron dhobi will pick the buffoons in 11. He himself (msd) is wasting a spot in 11. 4 out of 11 spots are wasted. And u overwork bhuvi and kill him.

I absolutely dislike dhoni's tactics & selections but given the quality of other players he absolutely had to do it or we'll be chasing leather yesterday & today. Bhuvi + new ball + helpful conditions = wickets Obviously there are passengers in the team but it was the only way. Yes it sukcs for bhuvi & it was a huge risk but you saw how easy it got later on with Ali & ballance. You arent going to get many wickets later on.

[tweaker]

If he had to use Bhuvi,he should have given him shot spells.He has selected Binny as 5 bowler,he should have utilized him properly so that the workload was distributed properly

[vvvslaxman]

I absolutely dislike dhoni's tactics & selections but given the quality of other players he absolutely had to do it or we'll be chasing leather yesterday & today. Bhuvi + new ball + helpful conditions = wickets Obviously there are passengers in the team but it was the only way. Yes it sukcs for bhuvi & it was a huge risk but you saw how easy it got later on with Ali & ballance. You arent going to get many wickets later on.

He was bowling at 70, 72 mph late in the evening. Second of all Binny created a genuine chance in his very second over. If you are going to use him as a 5th bowler this was the best surface. Now we neer know what Binny would have done with newish ball. But for some fluke wickets late in the evening they would have been in commanding position. Even now they have three genuine batters who can post a huge total taking substantial lead.

[asterix]

Didn't he brought Binny after 70 overs bowled? Which Dickhead captain will do that? Given Ishants performance in this test, will he replace him in the next match or Ishant is an automatic choice for the whole series? Same goes with Jaddu...I'm amazed that Jaddu is playing Test cricket in England... Dhobi has created some fake issues of Jaddu and Anderson just to divert attention, while he continues to select him in all the matches...

[maniac]

Didn't he brought Binny after 70 overs bowled? Which Dickhead captain will do that? Given Ishants performance in this test, will he replace him in the next match or Ishant is an automatic choice for the whole series? Same goes with Jaddu...I'm amazed that Jaddu is playing Test cricket in England... Dhobi has created some fake issues of Jaddu and Anderson just to divert attention, while he continues to select him in all the matches...

You know,I am kind of buying your conspiracy

[SLICKR392]

You know' date='I am kind of buying your conspiracy[/quote'] Not surprising. That's one of the weirdest conpiracies I have come across.

[Stuge]

His hand was forced. Only chance of us picking up wickets was bhuvi bowling with the new ball otherwise england would have been 280/3 in a comfortable position going onto day 3. Clearly when you have inconsistent shami, useless ishant, not even test class jadeja & binny that's the only thing that could save us. But still some people are now defending these poor performances not even bothering to look at the real problem.

yes ,you have classless players ,when you keep dropping catches in the slips .

[maniac]

Not surprising. That's one of the weirdest conpiracies I have come across.

:hmmmm:

[asterix]

Not surprising. That's one of the weirdest conpiracies I have come across.

Why? Dhobi is known to be least controversial. He never backs his players in case of any issues. He's approachable and always open for negotiations and mediation. There has been instances that he has publicly reprimanded players for being too rowdy towards opposition players.. There has been instances when he's bowed down to opposition teams requests and called back batsmen to bat again, once given out... He's somebody who downplays controversies and always tries to resolve any issues between teams... So what happened this time? Why he's adamant and insisted on pressing charges against Anderson.. Would he do the same if say Binny and Anderson had a spat? Your guess is as good as mine...

[Precambrian]

Am confused Is getting the opposition down to 216-6 after a day's play on reasonably good batting surface something banal on the part of the bowling captain? Anderson and Broad, who are much bigger, faster and heavy duty bowlers than Bhuvi bowled same number of overs as him in roughly same amoung of time. So why pick only Bhuvi's case? Bhuvi is not an express bowler, he bowls roughly around late 120s and early 130s. Plus this is England, the pitch is conducive to his style of bowling and he doesn't have a long runup. So I am not quite sure what is the risk in making him bowl 20-23 overs on a day when he is in rhythm. Lastly, and importantly, is he injured? If not, what is this rubbish accusation of bowling him to the ground? Some pundits are just *******s.

[undisputed chap]

He was bowling at 70' date=' 72 mph late in the evening. Second of all Binny created a genuine chance in his very second over. If you are going to use him as a 5th bowler this was the best surface. Now we neer know what Binny would have done with newish ball. But for some fluke wickets late in the evening they would have been in commanding position. Even now they have three genuine batters who can post a huge total taking substantial lead.[/quote'] Dhoni doesn't trust bunny with the ball at all. He doesn't use him until he has to. Creating one chance doesn't make you a good bowler. He persisted with the only option he thought would work under these conditions. I totally get that likes of pisshant, jadeja, bunny shouldnt be playing at all but his only viable option here was to persist with bhuvi. The selectors should take a clue that dhoni, bunny, jadeja, ishant arent going to cut it. How many times does ishant has to prove that he is utter shyte. But he gets picked regardless & will continue to play.

[CSK Fan]

I absolutely dislike dhoni's tactics & selections but given the quality of other players he absolutely had to do it or we'll be chasing leather yesterday & today. Bhuvi + new ball + helpful conditions = wickets Obviously there are passengers in the team but it was the only way. Yes it sukcs for bhuvi & it was a huge risk but you saw how easy it got later on with Ali & ballance. You arent going to get many wickets later on.

And when the same bowler is bowled to the ground, loses his way in international cricket, loses his swing, then we can complain about poor bowling resources, right? Fatigue can affect minute things in a bowler like wrist, grip action and can destroy a bowler's career

Am confused Is getting the opposition down to 216-6 after a day's play on reasonably good batting surface something banal on the part of the bowling captain? .

Yes, you will be confused. You see, unlike you, the pundits and most people are not thinking in terms of one session or one day or one test. They know Bhuvi is a long term option for India who should be protected and groomed But yes, Dhoni is desperate to win the match and so are some fans. To the extent that are ready to sacrifice a young bowler's career And the next time he loses his way and zing after a couple of such series, they and captain cool can go back to blame the lack of bowling resources Not able to manage bowling resources is why some of our brightest talents shine only in one or two series before they fade away. But looks like we still won't learn our lesson

[SLICKR392]

:hmmmm:

Wrong quote. :giggle:

[Marco Polo]

No **** Sherlock. Tell us something we don't know.