Marco Polo Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 I didn't say 28 is a groundbreaking score.....he scored 28 and got a wicket....probably more than what binny or Ashwin would have got anyways. Also he is a much superior fielder than them. There is no shame in accepting that you made a mistake by supporting Nohit. Accept it and move on. Nohit is as hopeless as it gets.
maniac Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Dhoni's decision not to use him is not fault of Binny' date=' it was fault of Dhoni. Unless you see Binny and Rohit together you can't say Rohit played better. ROhit has an awful technique and temperament for a test match player.[/quote'] Did you see Binnys shot last game.....also rohit has played some clutch innings in lois so how can you write off his temperament....we've gone over this no matter how poor you think he is,he is a back up batsman and obviously in the pecking order....yeah you might think there are 20 better batsman than him in domestics,but they are not in England currently are they?
Lord Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 In the end did binny get a wicket? If he was so threatening surely dhoni would have bowled him a lots more right? Binny has played 1/4 innings and all of a sudden you guys talk like there is an obvious proof he would have outperformed everyone here. not everyone.only Rohit.Its not that hard
maniac Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 not everyone.only Rohit.Its not that hard So what did binny contribute apart from one innings in 4 games. Rohit already has a wicket and scored more than binny in 3 of his innings put together....you want to write him off already....let him flop in the next innings as well you will have a point but right now it just shows the hatred for a player than any logical proof.
vvvslaxman Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Did you see Binnys shot last game.....also rohit has played some clutch innings in lois so how can you write off his temperament....we've gone over this no matter how poor you think he is' date=he is a back up batsman and obviously in the pecking order....yeah you might think there are 20 better batsman than him in domestics,but they are not in England currently are they? Some clutch innings for India 100 clutch innings for opposition as well.
maniac Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Some clutch innings for India 100 clutch innings for opposition as well. See you just despise him....I asked you to present logical facts if Ashwin or binny would have outperformed him here? I already did that. Bring gauti into this discussion you might have a shot but rohit has contributed o.k in this game,not fair to totally write him off.
Lord Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 So what did binny contribute apart from one innings in 4 games. Rohit already has a wicket and scored more than binny in 3 of his innings put together....you want to write him off already....let him flop in the next innings as well you will have a point but right now it just shows the hatred for a player than any logical proof. lol counting lucky wicket but not counting obvious edge that was dropped.How desperate can you get as for Binny,if you talking about his first 4 innings,then why not Rohit in SA?He failed for more but still getting chances,How is it fair to judge a guy after 4 innings in which one he did well and other he got wrong decision.so only 2 failures.You are still writing him off,arent you?Hatred? We've seen Rohit in ODIs.Except on flat tracks or teams like WI,hes mostly failed.So its not early at all.
vvvslaxman Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 See you just despise him....I asked you to present logical facts if Ashwin or binny would have outperformed him here? I already did that. Bring gauti into this discussion you might have a shot but rohit has contributed o.k in this game,not fair to totally write him off. Yes Binny scored a meaningful 78. In one innings he was not even out. Umpire did him in. Dhoni severely underused him on purpose. So basically problem is with DHoni not Binny. Rohit got a lucky wicket. ON a flat bed played a reckless shot.
shortbread Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 See you just despise him....I asked you to present logical facts if Ashwin or binny would have outperformed him here? I already did that. Bring gauti into this discussion you might have a shot but rohit has contributed o.k in this game,not fair to totally write him off. Yes Ashwin would have picked up a wicket, which nohit didnt. The umpire gave a bad call. He didnt make 28 runs that ape edged and prodded for some time thats it. Ashwin would have been the better batsman. Binny just started playing with the senior team this month. nohit has been a parasite in the Indian line up for 8 friggin years!! He wont get picked the next test and Indian cricket would be thankful for that. Hate these gaavthiis, 'Its ok if India looses, as long as our son nohit plays!!' Losers!!
maniac Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 lol counting lucky wicket but not counting obvious edge that was dropped.How desperate can you get as for Binny,if you talking about his first 4 innings,then why not Rohit in SA?He failed for more but still getting chances,How is it fair to judge a guy after 4 innings in which one he did well and other he got wrong decision.so only 2 failures.You are still writing him off,arent you?Hatred? We've seen Rohit in ODIs.Except on flat tracks or teams like WI,hes mostly failed.So its not early at all. Different benchmark.....rohit is selected for his batting,binny for his allrounder skills. Rohit has an average in the 50s before this game......has a unique record of scoring 2 back to back 100s in his debut series....has a good knock overseas as well but yes he has underperformed but still he is in a different league of binny. He has been in the mix with all formats and already a senior player....you can't compare him with a rookie who just made it on family connections
shortbread Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Different benchmark.....rohit is selected for his batting,binny for his allrounder skills. Rohit has an average in the 50s before this game......has a unique record of scoring 2 back to back 100s in his debut series....has a good knock overseas as well but yes he has underperformed but still he is in a different league of binny. He has been in the mix with all formats and already a senior player....you can't compare him with a rookie who just made it on family connections Will u stop kissing the guys backside for scoring against WI on a flat track!! If Indian stats are all u need, the Aswin has 2 centuries and a bucketload of wickets, so easily a better choice than the ape!!
vvvslaxman Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Different benchmark.....rohit is selected for his batting,binny for his allrounder skills. Rohit has an average in the 50s before this game......has a unique record of scoring 2 back to back 100s in his debut series....has a good knock overseas as well but yes he has underperformed but still he is in a different league of binny. He has been in the mix with all formats and already a senior player....you can't compare him with a rookie who just made it on family connections He should be exclusively selected in India match only. Not outside India
shortbread Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Ashwins test batting average outside India: 30+ Nohit: 24.37 Different benchmark.....rohit is selected for his batting My foot!!
maniac Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Will u stop kissing the guys backside for scoring against WI on a flat track!! If Indian stats are all u need, the Aswin has 2 centuries and a bucketload of wickets, so easily a better choice than the ape!! Ok what about his innings in NZl....averages 40 in seaming conditions....good enough for you. Also comparing a genuine batsman with a bowler who can bat really? Compare jadeja and Ashwin will make more sense. Anyways I was clear he is rightfully behind on the pecking order after rahane,chepu and kohli so what's the problem here when the team management wants to have an extra bat? Blame team management for the strategy fair enough but why single out a player who has earned his shot atleast to be a fringe player.
shortbread Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Ok what about his innings in NZl....averages 40 in seaming conditions....good enough for you. Also comparing a genuine batsman with a bowler who can bat really? Compare jadeja and Ashwin will make more sense. Anyways I was clear he is rightfully behind on the pecking order after rahane,chepu and kohli so what's the problem here when the team management wants to have an extra bat? Blame team management for the strategy fair enough but why single out a player who has earned his shot atleast to be a fringe player. Ashwin is the better test batsman abroad, look at the stats!! He is the better bowler as well. Dhoni is to blame for picking his second favourite Sharma into the 11, no doubt!! But if nohit is kicked out of the team for good then we might end up getting a better batsman or bowler instead of him!!
Lord Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Different benchmark.....rohit is selected for his batting,binny for his allrounder skills. Rohit has an average in the 50s before this game......has a unique record of scoring 2 back to back 100s in his debut series....has a good knock overseas as well but yes he has underperformed but still he is in a different league of binny. He has been in the mix with all formats and already a senior player....you can't compare him with a rookie who just made it on family connections if hes selected for batting,then 28 is not what you expect.Hes failed overseas so far.Runs against mighty WI at home is different thing altogether. Binny is selected as an allrounder but not given bowling,whose fault is that? How hes in a different league?tailunt? Binny averaged 50 with the bat in FC for 3 years batting mostly on tough Karnataka tracks.Played a crucial role in them winning Ranji this year.Then scored a ton in ROI game.Also its reported that Roger did not take part in his selection.So how can you say that hes just in bcoz of that?
maniac Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Ashwin is the better test batsman abroad, look at the stats!! He is the better bowler as well. Dhoni is to blame for picking his second favourite Sharma into the 11, no doubt!! But if nohit is kicked out of the team for good then we might end up getting a better batsman or bowler instead of him!! Better bowler? FYI rohit is not a bowler....his bowling is a nice bonus as he displayed in the 1st innings. You want better bowlers sure there are plenty of slots open as is the case with our bowling since the beginning of time. So selectors can drop him....but when he is in the squad as a back up middle order player,he deserves his shot and stop making it seem he completely bombed....yeah he had a brainfart.....totally deserves criticism but still not a total flop like everyone is making out to be.
maniac Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 if hes selected for batting,then 28 is not what you expect.Hes failed overseas so far.Runs against mighty WI at home is different thing altogether. Binny is selected as an allrounder but not given bowling,whose fault is that? How hes in a different league?tailunt? Binny averaged 50 with the bat in FC for 3 years batting mostly on tough Karnataka tracks.Played a crucial role in them winning Ranji this year.Then scored a ton in ROI game.Also its reported that Roger did not take part in his selection.So how can you say that hes just in bcoz of that? He is a regular in 2 formats where his records speak for itself....had a great start to his test career....how can you even compare him with binny lol. And roger walked out of the selection committee so he had no role in Stuarts selection :hysterical::hysterical:....c'mon man how naive are you
vvvslaxman Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 He is a regular in 2 formats where his records speak for itself....had a great start to his test career....how can you even compare him with binny lol. And roger walked out of the selection committee so he had no role in Stuarts selection :hysterical::hysterical:....c'mon man how naive are you Binny also had a great start :cantstop: without any interntaional exposure even in one dayers. Just one one dayer. Rohit played 100s of one dayers with so many failurres. Bullied his favorite 8th ranked side at home. Binny saved a test for India on his debut against a much superior side in their own den. Obviously we know who is better lol
Lord Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 He is a regular in 2 formats where his records speak for itself....had a great start to his test career....how can you even compare him with binny lol. And roger walked out of the selection committee so he had no role in Stuarts selection :hysterical::hysterical:....c'mon man how naive are you Nobody's talking about ODIs or T20s.Sure Rohit is good there. He had a great start in Tests AT HOME.Overseas he sucked bad in SA and should have been dropped after 2 matches if it applies to others.Binny's highest score is already higher Rohit in overseas lol. Even if he was part of it,Stuart did well for past 3 years as I said,plus in ROI game this year.So its not like he totally got only due to that
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